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Diesel in the Crescent SC

  • 21-12-2011 8:23pm
    #1
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 2,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Okay I was in Diesel for the first time today and had to notice that it is much cheaper than Diesel usually is.
    Now I have to wonder is it the 'real' diesel or what the story is?
    Anyone shed any light?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,115 ✭✭✭Pacifico


    Its not...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 150 ✭✭Avatarr


    angeldaisy wrote: »
    Okay I was in Diesel for the first time today and had to notice that it is much cheaper than Diesel usually is.
    Now I have to wonder is it the 'real' diesel or what the story is?
    Anyone shed any light?

    what price difference are you seeing:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,158 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    This is Diesel

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_%28brand%29

    This is Diesel in the Crescent and similar

    An old Thread from Boards but there are loads of discussions on the stores.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054979811

    AFAIK Diesel Ireland was a registered trademark and they refused to change their name. Much like the Four Seasons Hotel in Louth which comes up frequently when searching for the 5* version in Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,396 ✭✭✭Tefral


    Saw it in the cresent yesterday myself and I thought to myself fair play they managed to secure Diesel. Got closer to the door and realised it was the cheap knockoff Diesel. (Well its not really a knock off but you know what I mean.. its not the Designer label Diesel.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 2,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭angeldaisy


    whats the quality like? the OH saw a jacket he liked, but is it really worth spending 80 euro on? I know jackets are expensive but I hate paying just for a 'name'


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,129 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    To be honest I bought a knitted type hoodie out there last week. Looks nice and the quality is pretty good. Not that expensive either. I couldn't care less either way about the brand on it or whether its the real deal or not because the brand name makes no difference to me.
    Just because it isn't the more widely known one doesn't mean the quality is that bad.

    In saying that though it should be more widely known and said that it isn't the bigger more known brand as it can catch a lot of people who might spend a lot of money in these shops thinking they are getting the other stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,158 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    Jofspring wrote: »
    In saying that though it should be more widely known and said that it isn't the bigger more known brand as it can catch a lot of people who might spend a lot of money in these shops thinking they are getting the other stuff.

    Yes but they are not going to openly help people by giving them the information about the non-link between the brands. It wouldn't serve them any good really.

    Although I'm sure Diesel UK are watching Diesel Ireland Ltd very carefully waiting them to stupidly copy a real Diesel item too closely and then sue the pants off them(pun intended).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,129 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    Beer Baron wrote: »
    Yes but they are not going to openly help people by giving them the information about the non-link between the brands. It wouldn't serve them any good really.

    Although I'm sure Diesel UK are watching Diesel Ireland Ltd very carefully waiting them to stupidly copy a real Diesel item too closely and then sue the pants off them(pun intended).

    Ya i'd say your right about them waiting for a slip up.

    At the end of the day I suppose they have added two stores in limerick creating a few jobs so we can't complain too much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,857 ✭✭✭langdang


    There's a shop called Paraffin in Tralee if Diesel is too pricey...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    I thought a petrol station had opened in the Crescent and I was wondering where it was for a few seconds until i scrolled down :d


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,857 ✭✭✭langdang


    angeldaisy wrote: »
    whats the quality like? the OH saw a jacket he liked, but is it really worth spending 80 euro on? I know jackets are expensive but I hate paying just for a 'name'
    Some of it is grand, I wouldn't be buying for the name though? You can get good value on sale stuff there. I've a few shirts and jeans from "Diesel Ireland" for general wear. Jack and Jones is better quality on average in my opinion. I've never bought anything at full price in "Diesel Ireland" but I'd say I might have in J&J. "Diesel Ireland" used to look better before (I thought) but some of the new shops look like TJS to me, Mahon Point in Cork being an example.

    The real Diesel jeans (in Brown Thomas in Limerick) are very very good quality and cut/fit. Pricey but you would get the value out of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭h3000


    Mc Love wrote: »
    I thought a petrol station had opened in the Crescent and I was wondering where it was for a few seconds until i scrolled down :d

    Do you remember the petrol station that used to be in the Crescent?

    Shell station I think.

    0118 999 881 999 119 725 3



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    h3000 wrote: »
    Do you remember the petrol station that used to be in the Crescent?

    Shell station I think.

    I do indeed - my mates brother used to work there :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭seachto7


    I bought a "diesel" jacket about 4 years ago. It didn't last long. The real Diesel jeans are expensive, but will last you for ages....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭puntosporting


    seachto7 wrote: »
    I bought a "diesel" jacket about 4 years ago. It didn't last long. The real Diesel jeans are expensive, but will last you for ages....
    What do you do to your clothes?
    If something to your mind looks decent then buy it forget the bloody label!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    Priced a pair of jeans in there yesterday, €85, they're very blatantly piggybacking on the Bigger brands label.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Skuxx


    Whats the story with Diesel in Bedford Row, same as this one??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    yip


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭seachto7


    What do you do to your clothes?
    If something to your mind looks decent then buy it forget the bloody label!

    wasn't good quality, that was all....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭bullets


    I'm useless when it comes to mens fashions.
    I whole heatedly hold my hand up and willingly say
    my fashion sense its 30 years out of date and ****.

    I've been looking out for a Male clothing store that can provide a modern
    mans casual clothing style but have yet to see anything I actually like.

    I'm looking for someplace where there are experienced people where you could
    walk into a store and thy could pick out clothes that would suit you, and not make
    you look like a feckin ejjit and try to sell you anything.

    Dont want someone to turn around and say "suits you sir" and not mean it. :-P


    I'm heterosexual and don't want to look like a metro-sexual, I don't want to look camp, and dont want a pink shirt and man-bag.
    I also dont want to look like a beefcake, desperate dan character or lumber jack.
    I'm looking for that happy middle ground.

    Paid a visit to Diesel in the crescent only to be presented with the first price
    tag I walked into at the store entrance with a pair of Denim Jeans with a price tag of 85 Euros!!! I said to myself WTF!!!!
    and went to Tesco and bought a paid that still fit and made of the same material for a tenner.
    Why would any sane person pay that much for a pair of jeans thinking that
    somehow they fit better, or lasted longer, or did any of these magical fantasy like qualities that the shops or brands would have you believe!!!:eek:
    Back in the day it was Levi jeans or the shoddy 2nds were Wranglers, 3rd place whet to the "Lee" brand, nowadays there are all these designer labels I've never heard of.

    I thought with this new store I'd be able to modernize my fashion sense
    with buying a so called "collection" where there is a combination of clothes that go together. But honestly I could seen nothing I liked at all.

    I really hate hate hate hate this bull**** thing that some clothes designers/makers do where they stick a Logo, Symbol, crest of worse still some Random Number like 86, 44, 22 on a piece of clothing.

    I'm not a rugby player, American football player I don't need
    some number on the clothes I wear to fool myself or anyone else into
    thinking I'm some part of a team or club.

    Must people will buy these type of clothes without batting an eyelid.
    When I look at these clothes I ask:....

    whats the Number stand for ????
    if it stands for nothing why is it on the clothing.

    What is the symbol/tag/crest ????
    why is it there, what does it represent if its there for no reason
    why put it there in the first place.

    Brand name Labels I've no issue with , they are put there to advertise the brand. also Artistic designs I've little or no beef with they are either artistic or mean nothing but look pretty. Hence I end up wearing block colors
    like plain tops/shirts and jeans, or as I mentioned before dress from clothes
    from the army surplus or workers section from the co-op store. :(


    ~B


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Mc Love wrote: »
    I thought a petrol station had opened in the Crescent and I was wondering where it was for a few seconds until i scrolled down :d

    And can you wash the stuff? I hear it's illegal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    bullets wrote: »

    go up the stairs in river island in the crescent. head straight ahead, do not turn right. never lets me down :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,719 ✭✭✭LB6


    bullets wrote: »
    I really hate hate hate hate this bull**** thing that some clothes designers/makers do where they stick a Logo, Symbol, crest of worse still some Random Number like 86, 44, 22 on a piece of clothing.~B

    .22, .223, 9, 45 or 38 might be more your style :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭Vertigo100


    If they are charging 85 quid for jeans in diesel in the crescent you would be better off going to brown Thomas and spending the extra 20-30 on the real diesel stuff. Infinitely better quality and will last you years. I have a pair that's 4 years old and they look like new so instead of buying a load of cheap quality jeans just spend the extra.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,158 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    I have Pennys and Dunnes Jeans which are good enough quality for €25 but the denim is different from my Tommy Hilfiger Jeans which were probably €95. I have gotten more use and better wear from the Tommy Jeans but I would happily buy Pennys or Dunnes Jeans(you get a free belt :D)

    I would not pay €85 for a brand of Diesel that, irrespective to what they say, is a play upon the Italian Diesel Brand.

    @Bullets - You forget Pepe Jeans that really came after Wrangler and before Lee. :pac::pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,857 ✭✭✭langdang


    Vertigo100 wrote: »
    If they are charging 85 quid for jeans in diesel in the crescent you would be better off going to brown Thomas and spending the extra 20-30 on the real diesel stuff. Infinitely better quality and will last you years. I have a pair that's 4 years old and they look like new so instead of buying a load of cheap quality jeans just spend the extra.
    I wouldn't spend 85 on the other jeans at all, but there was more than a 30yoyo difference on my last pair of the real diesel! The real deal are class jeans in fairness. Yer man in BT (spanish I think, Oscar?) is good at his job too.

    Tis like the Paul Galvin thread or something here. Irish males (including some engineers) talking about fashion :eek: :o :eek: :confused:

    Edit - I agree BeerBaron, you do OK value for money wise out of Penneys/tesco/dunnes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭black & white


    bullets wrote: »
    I'm useless when it comes to mens fashions.
    I whole heatedly hold my hand up and willingly say
    my fashion sense its 30 years out of date and ****.

    I've been looking out for a Male clothing store that can provide a modern
    mans casual clothing style but have yet to see anything I actually like.

    I'm looking for someplace where there are experienced people where you could
    walk into a store and thy could pick out clothes that would suit you, and not make
    you look like a feckin ejjit and try to sell you anything.

    Dont want someone to turn around and say "suits you sir" and not mean it. :-P


    I'm heterosexual and don't want to look like a metro-sexual, I don't want to look camp, and dont want a pink shirt and man-bag.
    I also dont want to look like a beefcake, desperate dan character or lumber jack.
    I'm looking for that happy middle ground.

    Paid a visit to Diesel in the crescent only to be presented with the first price
    tag I walked into at the store entrance with a pair of Denim Jeans with a price tag of 85 Euros!!! I said to myself WTF!!!!
    and went to Tesco and bought a paid that still fit and made of the same material for a tenner.
    Why would any sane person pay that much for a pair of jeans thinking that
    somehow they fit better, or lasted longer, or did any of these magical fantasy like qualities that the shops or brands would have you believe!!!:eek:
    Back in the day it was Levi jeans or the shoddy 2nds were Wranglers, 3rd place whet to the "Lee" brand, nowadays there are all these designer labels I've never heard of.

    I thought with this new store I'd be able to modernize my fashion sense
    with buying a so called "collection" where there is a combination of clothes that go together. But honestly I could seen nothing I liked at all.

    I really hate hate hate hate this bull**** thing that some clothes designers/makers do where they stick a Logo, Symbol, crest of worse still some Random Number like 86, 44, 22 on a piece of clothing.

    I'm not a rugby player, American football player I don't need
    some number on the clothes I wear to fool myself or anyone else into
    thinking I'm some part of a team or club.

    Must people will buy these type of clothes without batting an eyelid.
    When I look at these clothes I ask:....

    whats the Number stand for ????
    if it stands for nothing why is it on the clothing.

    What is the symbol/tag/crest ????
    why is it there, what does it represent if its there for no reason
    why put it there in the first place.

    Brand name Labels I've no issue with , they are put there to advertise the brand. also Artistic designs I've little or no beef with they are either artistic or mean nothing but look pretty. Hence I end up wearing block colors
    like plain tops/shirts and jeans, or as I mentioned before dress from clothes
    from the army surplus or workers section from the co-op store. :(


    ~B

    Thank f**k for that. I thought I was the only one.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    TKMaxx FTW.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,929 ✭✭✭Raiser


    I often wear my 'real Diesel' clothes in there with its superior stitching and cutting edge styling just to shame and embarrass the staff and management.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,857 ✭✭✭langdang


    Raiser wrote: »
    I often wear my 'real Diesel' clothes in there with its superior stitching and cutting edge styling just to shame and embarrass the staff and management.
    Yikes, mental picture of the dude in your profile pic doing lunges and splits up at the counter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 514 ✭✭✭Brian Lighthouse


    It is difficult to find clothing without logos, or a design that you are too old for.
    When shopping for clothes I invariably lose patience after a sweep around the gents section of three separate stores.
    I then spend the money on a few pints.
    Recently I discovered a friend of mine has a natural ability for shopping and loves the "root". I bought him a few pints for Christmas.
    We`ll all look better and suffer less stress with a GBF.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 2,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭angeldaisy


    well op here, got the jacket half price - thank god I made him wait:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 303 ✭✭kenoconnell


    langdang wrote: »
    There's a shop called Paraffin in Tralee if Diesel is too pricey...

    POOR <ME..... I actually thought it was real diessel, ie the stuff for the jeep for a minute!!!!

    Guess its back to my WVO experimentation to save the shillings!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 350 ✭✭tommyh1977


    I know this chain of shops have been discussed elsewhere on boards, but i need to vent my fury. My wife bought two t-shirts in there last week, asked the guy on duty if there was a size issue could they be returned for a refund (as these were the biggest size they did). He said yes no problem once returned within 14 days. Went in today to return the items as size was wrong, was told sorry exchange only as items were on sale. Explained we were told by (name) we could get a refund no problem, and he never mentioned because they were on sale they were exchange only. Then asked to speak to the manager to be told it was actually the manager who had done the original sale and had told my wife about the refund being ok, then to be told he was running late for work and would be in for 2 o'clock. We called back at 2 o'clock to be told he was not going to be in until 3 o'clock as he was making his way from Dublin. Now how can you misjudge your travel time from Dublin by one hour. The girl said she had since contacted him on the phone and he said he never told my wife anything of the sort and there was no refund possible. We then said we would settle for a credit note only to again be told exchange only. I then pointed out to the girl that their refund policy was not publicly displayed at the point of sale, or anywhere in the shop for that matter, that the manager had said a return for refund was ok and the only place it stated "exchange on sale goods only" was on the receipt, therefore the goods were mis-sold to us as we had no means of knowing the refund policy until we had actually purchased the items. Long story short my wife ended up getting a top she didn't even like or want just to get something for our money. I am taking this matter up with the national consumer agency first and then with the Diesel Ireland head office. I'll post how I get on as its the principal of this manager denying everything that's annoying me, not the value of the goods.:mad::mad::mad::mad:


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,972 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    For the love of all that is good, man, please use paragraphs! :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 350 ✭✭tommyh1977


    Sorry had to vent.........rant over;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 263 ✭✭Casperbhoy


    I went after christmas too to return a shirt that did not fit. They tried every trick in the book not to give me the refund but I stood firm

    They eventually gave in, they could see I would not take no for an answer:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 350 ✭✭tommyh1977


    Actually I forgot to mention there was another couple beside us trying to return something and again they were getting the run around. I suppose pay a monkey in peanuts and he'll jump through hoops for you!!


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,972 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    tommyh1977 wrote: »
    Actually I forgot to mention there was another couple beside us trying to return something and again they were getting the run around. I suppose pay a monkey in peanuts and he'll jump through hoops for you!!

    To be fair, there are very few shops who'll give a refund for something bought "on sale". There's absolutely no statutory requirement for them to do so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭source


    To be fair, there are very few shops who'll give a refund for something bought "on sale". There's absolutely no statutory requirement for them to do so.

    Unless it's faulty or not fit for purpose of course.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭Butterfly25


    To be fair, there are very few shops who'll give a refund for something bought "on sale". There's absolutely no statutory requirement for them to do so.

    Most shops will give you a refund on sale items, they'll probably just ask for the item to be returned within 14 days instead of the usual 28 days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 350 ✭✭tommyh1977


    True there is no legal obligation on the store to give you your money back if you just change your mind, it's at their goodwill and discretion. However the manager of this store told my wife no problem when she was buying the goods, but no way when she wanted to return them. She was even willing to take a credit note but again no way. That to me is misrepresentation and dishonest. Poster above had issues, as did couple next to us!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭diol07


    Shops are not obliged to give any refunds to anybody, whether it's sale time or not is irrelevant. Exchanges are usually only offered on heavily discounted items. This is the norm. If the manager promised a refund and then denied it, he must be very incompetent in his job. A manager shouldn't do that as it causes confusion, puts other staff members in awkward situations not of their own doing, and of course it pees customers off. If a member of staff ever promises anything like that you should get them to sign the back of the receipt, stating a refund if returned. This is the only way you will have any recourse should they promise something that goes against the stores usual return policy.

    Some large department stores and chains do give refunds, but these are usually the ones who have huge economy of scale, large stock levels, own brand and can thus afford to write off returns as a small percentage of their business model. Smaller chains or independents can't and usually won't offer the same return policy. You're only entitled to a refund if the product is faulty, and even then that can be challenged as to whether it's a manufacturing fault or whether the customer did the damage themselves. If Diesel's head office are any good they'll offer you a refund or something similar as a gesture of goodwill.


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