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Tax the Black Market?

  • 19-12-2011 2:16pm
    #1
    D1stant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭


    How much could the State make out of legalising and taxing prostitution and drugs?

    Pros

    - Extra revenue
    - More control
    - Less gang crime
    - More tourism

    Cons

    - More tourism
    - Increased usage

    Tax the Black Market? 33 votes

    Yes legalise and tax everything
    0% 0 votes
    No thanks
    72% 24 votes
    Hmm Dunno
    27% 9 votes


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  • #2
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    D1stant wrote: »
    Pros

    - Extra revenue
    - More control
    - Less gang crime
    - More tourism
    - Better drugs
    - Better hookers

    There we go!


  • #3
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Tax Goths.


  • #4
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Tax Goths.

    Are there any goths left to tax? Surely the Tracksuit tax is the way to go.


  • #5
    Seachmall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    D1stant wrote: »
    Increased usage

    Not necessarily.

    Use of some drugs may decrease as seen in Holland and Portugal.

    In saying that I don't think legalizing everything is simply the answer.


  • #6
    irishgeo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,604 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    your not thinking of the loss of revenue that CAB recovers from criminals


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  • #7
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Nodin wrote: »
    Are there any goths left to tax? Surely the Tracksuit tax is the way to go.
    pyjamas are where the money is!


  • #8
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Nodin wrote: »
    Are there any goths left to tax? Surely the Tracksuit tax is the way to go.

    Goths have more money. Tax the rich. Occupy Nine Inch Nails!


  • #9
    D1stant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭D1stant


    irishgeo wrote: »
    your not thinking of the loss of revenue that CAB recovers from criminals

    Which is what percentage of the original revenue made on Drug deals and prostitution would you reckon?


  • #10
    GavRedKing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    D1stant wrote: »
    How much could the State make out of legalising and taxing prostitution and drugs?

    Pros

    - Extra revenue
    - More control
    - Less gang crime
    - More tourism

    Cons

    - More tourism
    - Increased usage

    How is more tourism a bad thing??


  • #11
    D1stant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭D1stant


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Goths have more money. Tax the rich. Occupy Nine Inch Nails!

    Its already well established that the top 1% of Goths pay for 50% of mascara sold in Ireland. If we target them any more they will emmigrate.


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  • #12
    D1stant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭D1stant


    gavredking wrote: »
    How is more tourism a bad thing??

    See Amsterdam


  • #13
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    D1stant wrote: »
    Its already well estabnlished that the top 1% of Goths pay for 50% of mascara sold in Ireland. If we target them anymore they will emmigrate.

    That's mere propaganda from the Goth lobby.


  • #14
    Suryavarman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭Suryavarman


    Where is the legalise everything, tax nothing option?


  • #15
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,230 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Suryavarman wrote: »
    Where is the legalise everything, tax nothing option?


    That's in Parallel Universe No. 23.


  • #16
    D1stant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭D1stant


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    That's in Parallel Universe No. 23.

    aka www.sinnfein.ie


  • #17
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    D1stant wrote: »
    See Amsterdam

    Amsterdam is an island of liberal drug and sex laws which attracts that type of tourism.

    If there was multilateral decriminalisation of puritanical behaviour regulating laws there would be no such tourism.


  • #18
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Chuck Stone wrote: »
    Amsterdam is an island of liberal drug and sex laws which attracts that type of tourism.

    If there was multilateral decriminalisation of puritanical behaviour regulating laws there would be no such tourism.

    Not any more.

    Amsterdam is not selling pot to tourists any more.


  • #19
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Racist.


  • #20
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Not any more.

    Amsterdam is not selling pot to tourists any more.

    Yes and the reason being, I presume, was to stop drug tourism.

    If weed was legalised across the EU there would be no need to go on buzz junkets.


  • #21
    number10a
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭number10a


    D1stant wrote: »
    How much could the State make out of legalising and taxing prostitution and drugs?

    Pros

    - Extra revenue
    - More control
    - Less gang crime
    - More tourism

    Cons

    - More tourism
    - Increased usage

    Increased usage doesn't really happen as a result of legalising/tolerating prostitution. Spain can show this (and I am sure Amsterdam can too, but I have no figures). There were about 500,000 prostitutes in Spain under the Franco dictatorship, now in what has become arguably the most liberal country in Europe, there are 250,000 prostitutes - still a huge fugure, but clearly it's a huge difference too. Back then as well, two-thirds of men used to lose their virginity to a prostitute. Within ten years of the transition to democracy, this figure had fallen to 9%.

    Spain also tolerates the use of soft drugs and this has had no detrimental affect on the country whatsoever.


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  • #22
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Weed should be legalized, it would be a good tax earner and might even discourage late night drunken violence. Prostitution should also be, in a regulated and controlled format.


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