€300 Gaming Build

Bonesy.

1. What is your budget? €300

2. What will be the main purpose of the computer? Medium Gaming (Minecraft, Sims etc.)

3. Do you need a copy of Windows? No

4. Can you use any parts from an old computer? No

5. Do you need a monitor? No

6. Do you need any of these peripherals? No

7. Are you willing to try overclocking? Yes

8. How can you pay? Any

9. When are you purchasing? Whenever

Bonesy.

Right so I've put this together and am wondering can someone review the list and make sure everything is compatable with everything and that this would be good for medium gaming and if anyone has any reccomendations feel free to suggest!

Samsung 22x DVD-RW SATA Black
Quicklinx:7H33WS00 | Mfr#: SH-S222AB/BEBE
In stock €16.16 €16.16 Intel Core i3-550 3.2Ghz Socket 1156 L3 4MB
Quicklinx:73QJWS00 | Mfr#: BX80616I3550
Ordered upon request €85.99 €85.99 Best Value EZCool H620 Case 500W PSU
Quicklinx:780HWS00 | Mfr#: H-620
In stock €40.01 €40.01 ASRock S1155 Intel H61M DDR3 mATX
Quicklinx:7LCFWS00 | Mfr#: H61M-S/M/ASR
Ordered upon request €49.19 €49.19 Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz CL9 XMP
Quicklinx:79V4WS00 | Mfr#: CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9
Ordered upon request €39.85 €39.85 EVGA GeForce GT 520 810MHz 1GB PCI-Express HDMI
Quicklinx:7TG0WS00 | Mfr#: 01G-P3-1525-KR
In stock €37.80 €37.80 TP LINK 150Mbps Wireless N PCI Adapter
Quicklinx:7NCRWS00 | Mfr#: TL-WN751ND
In stock €15.85 €15.85
Samsung 22x DVD-RW SATA Black
Quicklinx:7H33WS00 | Mfr#: SH-S222AB/BEBE
In stock €16.16 €16.16 Intel Core i3-550 3.2Ghz Socket 1156 L3 4MB
Quicklinx:73QJWS00 | Mfr#: BX80616I3550
Ordered upon request €85.99 €85.99 Best Value EZCool H620 Case 500W PSU
Quicklinx:780HWS00 | Mfr#: H-620
In stock €40.01 €40.01 ASRock S1155 Intel H61M DDR3 mATX
Quicklinx:7LCFWS00 | Mfr#: H61M-S/M/ASR
Ordered upon request €49.19 €49.19 Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz CL9 XMP
Quicklinx:79V4WS00 | Mfr#: CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9
Ordered upon request €39.85 €39.85 EVGA GeForce GT 520 810MHz 1GB PCI-Express HDMI
Quicklinx:7TG0WS00 | Mfr#: 01G-P3-1525-KR
In stock €37.80 €37.80 TP LINK 150Mbps Wireless N PCI Adapter
Quicklinx:7NCRWS00 | Mfr#: TL-WN751ND
In stock €15.85 €15.85
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And from Adverts a 300GB Maxtor 3.5 SATA for 30 euro

Bonesy.

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Sorry!

Bonesy.

I just can't get this right..

Serephucus

Have your basket open in the browser, just looking at the page.
Delete whatever is in your address bar up the top.
Paste in the Javascript code, as you would a link in an email or something.
Hit enter.
A small, orange window will pop up, paste that info into a post here.

Bonesy.

Keep trying it but it's not coming up

nesf

Use Firefox or something not Chrome.

Bonesy.

nesf wrote: »

Use Firefox or something not Chrome.

Downloaded and Installed it, done everything again and still nothing..

bobbytables

Christ I got a fright half way through the second post. But it's ok because somebody has remembered to sanitize their data inputs

nesf

Bonesy. wrote: »

Downloaded and Installed it, done everything again and still nothing..

I've it working in Chrome if I go to the start of it and insert the missing Javascript: before var.

Markd250

It only works for me when I save the script address as a bookmark, then click that when on the basket page.

Fluffy88

It looks like it's a dabs order to me and so the script should work fine.

If your using firefox you will have to bookmark the script like Markd250 said as firefox no longer allows you to run JavaScripts from the url bar.
Not sure about anything with chrome, if there is issues could someone post in the thread and I will try fix them
For Internet Explorer, it deletes the JavaScript: at the very beginning of the script when you paste it in, so you will have to manually type that in each time.

Best and easiest way to use the script is make a bookmark for it and enter the script under the "Location" box.

Bonesy.

Are bookmarks the same as favourites?

Serephucus

If I'm thinking of Internet Explorer, then yes.

Agent Smith

Bonesy.'s Build

Samsung 22x DVD-RW SATA Black €16.16
Intel Core i3-550 3.2Ghz Socket 1156 L3 4MB €85.99
Best Value EZCool H620 Case 500W PSU €40.01
ASRock S1155 Intel H61M DDR3 mATX €49.19
Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz CL9 XMP €39.85
EVGA GeForce GT 520 810MHz 1GB PCI-Express HDMI €37.80
TP LINK 150Mbps Wireless N PCI Adapter €15.85
Samsung 22x DVD-RW SATA Black €16.16
Intel Core i3-550 3.2Ghz Socket 1156 L3 4MB €85.99
Best Value EZCool H620 Case 500W PSU €40.01
ASRock S1155 Intel H61M DDR3 mATX €49.19
Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz CL9 XMP €39.85
EVGA GeForce GT 520 810MHz 1GB PCI-Express HDMI €37.80
TP LINK 150Mbps Wireless N PCI Adapter €15.85

Bonesy.

Agent Smith wrote: »

Bonesy.'s Build

Samsung 22x DVD-RW SATA Black €16.16
Intel Core i3-550 3.2Ghz Socket 1156 L3 4MB €85.99
Best Value EZCool H620 Case 500W PSU €40.01
ASRock S1155 Intel H61M DDR3 mATX €49.19
Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz CL9 XMP €39.85
EVGA GeForce GT 520 810MHz 1GB PCI-Express HDMI €37.80
TP LINK 150Mbps Wireless N PCI Adapter €15.85
Samsung 22x DVD-RW SATA Black €16.16
Intel Core i3-550 3.2Ghz Socket 1156 L3 4MB €85.99
Best Value EZCool H620 Case 500W PSU €40.01
ASRock S1155 Intel H61M DDR3 mATX €49.19
Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz CL9 XMP €39.85
EVGA GeForce GT 520 810MHz 1GB PCI-Express HDMI €37.80
TP LINK 150Mbps Wireless N PCI Adapter €15.85

Thank you very much

Agent Smith

Bonesy. wrote: »

Thank you very much

no Prob


I noticed you ordered

"
TP LINK 150Mbps Wireless N PCI Adapter €15.85"

twice


any reason why you need 2 wifi cards?

nesf

Agent Smith wrote: »

Bonesy.'s Build

Samsung 22x DVD-RW SATA Black €16.16
Intel Core i3-550 3.2Ghz Socket 1156 L3 4MB €85.99
Best Value EZCool H620 Case 500W PSU €40.01
ASRock S1155 Intel H61M DDR3 mATX €49.19
Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz CL9 XMP €39.85
EVGA GeForce GT 520 810MHz 1GB PCI-Express HDMI €37.80
TP LINK 150Mbps Wireless N PCI Adapter €15.85
Samsung 22x DVD-RW SATA Black €16.16
Intel Core i3-550 3.2Ghz Socket 1156 L3 4MB €85.99
Best Value EZCool H620 Case 500W PSU €40.01
ASRock S1155 Intel H61M DDR3 mATX €49.19
Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz CL9 XMP €39.85
EVGA GeForce GT 520 810MHz 1GB PCI-Express HDMI €37.80
TP LINK 150Mbps Wireless N PCI Adapter €15.85

@bonsey:

Don't get that case and power supply, you'll regret it later.

Bonesy.

Agent Smith wrote: »

no Prob


I noticed you ordered

"
TP LINK 150Mbps Wireless N PCI Adapter €15.85"

twice


any reason why you need 2 wifi cards?

Sorry accidental! This is just a rough list for the moment, want to make sure I'd have an ok Gaming PC with this stuff and that everything on the list would be all I need apart from peripharels of course

xtal191

The Intel Core i3-550 will not work on the motherboard you picked.

Agent Smith

Wifi cards arent the best for gaming.


if your stuck, they will do. but get yourself a good pair of net-plugs, if the distance is too far

nesf

Agent Smith wrote: »

Wifi cards arent the best for gaming.


if your stuck, they will do. but get yourself a good pair of net-plugs, if the distance is too far

Seconded. Excellent in the future also if you're planning on doing any streaming to a set top box by the TV too.

Agent Smith

nesf wrote: »

Seconded. Excellent in the future also if you're planning on doing any streaming to a set top box by the TV too.

great Minds nesf....


great minds

norrie rugger

net plugs?

Monotype

Home plugs/power line adapters. It allows you to create a network over your power lines.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeplug

They start at about €40 though, so it's more expensive that wireless on a tight budget.

Bonesy.

This: http://www.dabs.ie/products/amd-athlon-ii-x2-250-3-0ghz-2mb-am3-65w-processor-74NH.html?q=processor&src=16 instead of intel i3? would that go with the motherboard and be good for gaming?

xtal191

No you would need an am3 motherboard for that one. These are your choices with 1155 motherboard

http://www.dabs.ie/category/components-and-storage,motherboards-and-processors,processors/11147-4294945189

Bonesy.

Reccomend this? http://www.dabs.ie/products/intel-core-i3-2130-3-4ghz-lga1155-3mb-7P8H.html?refs=4294945189&src=3 Would I even need to buy a Graphics card aswell as this because this says HD graphics and so on

Trevor451

Bonesy. wrote: »

Reccomend this? http://www.dabs.ie/products/intel-core-i3-2130-3-4ghz-lga1155-3mb-7P8H.html?refs=4294945189&src=3 Would I even need to buy a Graphics card aswell as this because this says HD graphics and so on

The motherboard has a integrated graphics chip (opposed to having a dedicated graphics card) 99% of the time they are complete and utter trash for playing any demanding games and are more suited for office/web browsing use.

Having a integrated graphics chip on a motherboard does not prevent you from using a dedicated GPU in the future though.

Bonesy.

nesf wrote: »

@bonsey:

Don't get that case and power supply, you'll regret it later.

Yeh heard the PSU is ****e. Had it before?

nesf

Bonesy. wrote: »

Yeh heard the PSU is ****e. Had it before?

No, I've only bought good quality PSUs since I started building 10 years ago. You need steady, reliable power in anything as delicate as a PC, cheap power supplies don't guarantee this. If a power supply goes it can take out other components with it if it releases a surge of power on the 12V line and similar, so it's a really good insurance policy to take the power supply seriously and invest some money into it. This is especially true if you're going to be gaming and thus putting components and the PSU under strain.

That and you can get many years out of a good PSU.

Bonesy.

nesf wrote: »

No, I've only bought good quality PSUs since I started building 10 years ago. You need steady, reliable power in anything as delicate as a PC, cheap power supplies don't guarantee this. If a power supply goes it can take out other components with it if it releases a surge of power on the 12V line and similar, so it's a really good insurance policy to take the power supply seriously and invest some money into it. This is especially true if you're going to be gaming and thus putting components and the PSU under strain.

That and you can get many years out of a good PSU.

But what if I got the case and swapped the PSU for a good one? Or is the case no good what so ever?

nesf

Bonesy. wrote: »

But what if I got the case and swapped the PSU for a good one? Or is the case no good what so ever?

This is a better and cheaper case: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-011-BX&groupid=701&catid=7&subcat=1850

Or get the Alpha version if you want more cooling potential down the line.

Bonesy.

This is the latest one I've put together, is it better then my previous one, could I get a better Gaming build for the same price and is everything compatible with each other? Sony 24x DVD-RW SATA Black Bare Internal Drive
In stock €16.45 Best Value Alpine 650W PSU 120mm Red Fan
In stock €17.18 AMD Phenom II X4 960T 3.0GHz 8MB 95W Black Edition
In stock €109.91 Gigabyte AM3 AMD 880G DDR3 mATX

In stock €64.46Antec 900 Nine Hundred Ultimate Gamer Case (Black)
Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz CL9 XMP
€39.85
Delivery (14.466kg) Free!
Total (inc VAT) €345.42

Monotype

PSU is not good, spend more on a good quality one. Even the 450W XFX has nearly as many amps on the 12V as well as higher efficiency. Don't believe the wattage ratings.

If I recall correctly, the 960t is not a bad processor as some people have had luck unlocking them to X6s. However, I don't really think dabs have any cheap AM3 boards that make them worthwhile over an intel board.

If it's a gaming build then where's the graphics card?

Bonesy.

Thought the intergrated graphics would do the trick for the moment but maybe not I'm smashed for money atm, and for the PSU yeh I'll get the 430W Corsair instead

Monotype

Don't you have another similar thread running?
Anything else other than minecraft and the sims? These will run fine on Intel current generation technology or the radeon 4250. With a bit of tweaking at least. That's more of low end gaming rather than medium.

As for the motherboard, I'm just thinking that if I were to buy an AMD board now, I'd really want the SB850 southbridge for the SATA 6Gbps and AM3+ compatibility. You could add in things like USB 3 and SATA 6Gbps later, but I'd keep an upgrade path open if possible. Cheaper boards on dabs have worse graphics though. Hardwareversand have a better selection overall, but the €30 postage would be too costly in this circumstance.
You could easily get a H61 board for the same price and an i3 - a dual core but with hyperthreading. It would trade blows with the AMD and be more efficient (although could lose out overall with overclocking and unlocking). The big advantage would be a far superior upgrade path.

nesf

Monotype wrote: »

Don't you have another similar thread running?
Anything else other than minecraft and the sims? These will run fine on Intel current generation technology or the radeon 4250. With a bit of tweaking at least. That's more of low end gaming rather than medium.

As for the motherboard, I'm just thinking that if I were to buy an AMD board now, I'd really want the SB850 southbridge for the SATA 6Gbps and AM3+ compatibility. You could add in things like USB 3 and SATA 6Gbps later, but I'd keep an upgrade path open if possible. Cheaper boards on dabs have worse graphics though. Hardwareversand have a better selection overall, but the €30 postage would be too costly in this circumstance.
You could easily get a H61 board for the same price and an i3 - a dual core but with hyperthreading. It would trade blows with the AMD and be more efficient (although could lose out overall with overclocking and unlocking). The big advantage would be a far superior upgrade path.

Better integrated graphics too with the H61 board?

Bonesy.

Monotype wrote: »

Don't you have another similar thread running?
Anything else other than minecraft and the sims? These will run fine on Intel current generation technology or the radeon 4250. With a bit of tweaking at least. That's more of low end gaming rather than medium.

As for the motherboard, I'm just thinking that if I were to buy an AMD board now, I'd really want the SB850 southbridge for the SATA 6Gbps and AM3+ compatibility. You could add in things like USB 3 and SATA 6Gbps later, but I'd keep an upgrade path open if possible. Cheaper boards on dabs have worse graphics though. Hardwareversand have a better selection overall, but the €30 postage would be too costly in this circumstance.
You could easily get a H61 board for the same price and an i3 - a dual core but with hyperthreading. It would trade blows with the AMD and be more efficient (although could lose out overall with overclocking and unlocking). The big advantage would be a far superior upgrade path.

That was a 150e budget a few weeks back, yeh I'd be playing the likes of FIFA 12, Valve games, Resi. It's just a coincedence I mentioned two low graphics games. I might just change the build and change the motherboard to a 1155, I want to upgrade to an i5 processor down the road and get a good Raedon graphics card, Problem is though I can never get a good i3 build without going over 400 with the case I like(Antec 900) I could get a cheap case with a window and buy the fans separate but it works out better if I just buy the 900.

Bonesy.

Also can someone explain Water Cooling and its advantages to me? Thanks!

Serephucus

On a €300 build? You haven't a hope.

Watercooling uses copper (usually) blocks in place of heatsinks. Water is fed through tubes, and absorbs heat from the copper, passes it to a radiator (which is cooled by fans) to get rid of the heat. The water is moved by a pump that's connected to your PSU.

You can get a decent CPU-only look for about €250-ish. Typically, you can get higher overclocks with much less noise.

nesf

Serephucus wrote: »

On a €300 build? You haven't a hope.

Watercooling uses copper (usually) blocks in place of heatsinks. Water is fed through tubes, and absorbs heat from the copper, passes it to a radiator (which is cooled by fans) to get rid of the heat. The water is moved by a pump that's connected to your PSU.

You can get a decent CPU-only look for about €250-ish. Typically, you can get higher overclocks with much less noise.

That and there's no point in watercooling a €300 build anyway given you won't have high quality overclocking friendly stuff in it.

Bonesy.

Alright thsanks

Monotype

nesf wrote: »

Better integrated graphics too with the H61 board?

IIRC on average, Celeron/Pentium HD graphics and HD2000 < 4250 < HD3000
Not sure how the 4290 in the 890GX boards compares.
The 4250 can usually be overclocked while the intel has some extra power in decoding videos. Neither are much of an advantage or will offer you a different experience.

Bonesy. wrote: »

That was a 150e budget a few weeks back, yeh I'd be playing the likes of FIFA 12, Valve games, Resi. It's just a coincedence I mentioned two low graphics games. I might just change the build and change the motherboard to a 1155, I want to upgrade to an i5 processor down the road and get a good Raedon graphics card, Problem is though I can never get a good i3 build without going over 400 with the case I like(Antec 900) I could get a cheap case with a window and buy the fans separate but it works out better if I just buy the 900.

As I said before, with valve games, you need very little and you could get by here. There's people playing Fifa 12 and RE5 with a 4250 on youtube so I suppose it is possible but detail is turned way down and it is probably on the edge of playability. If money was tight, yeah I suppose it could be done, really just a stop gap until you could afford a graphics card. It definitely wouldn't be enough for a lot of games out there.