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Degree grading

  • 18-12-2011 10:09pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭


    I've been searching online for the past hour or so and can't find the answer to my question;

    I recall reading somewhere taht you can use a percentage of your second year grade toward your final degree grading in a 3 year degree.

    Is it divided; 2nd year(20%) 3rd year (80%) or 25:75 or 30:70.

    and exactly do you calculate this? do you use a few of your highest results from second year and substitute these for your lower final year results??

    The position I'm in is that last year my 4 best results, I got an average of 69 between 15 credits, 2 modules at 5 credits each and 2 modules at 2.5 credits.

    So if i got, say 72 in a module this year could this bulk up the other 4 results to an average of 70 or what is the procedure?

    Cheers for any info!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,134 ✭✭✭Duddy


    I think its your overall percentage from the penultimate year weighted at 30% of the final year mark, but only if its to the student's advantage. Its also done automatically by the college, so no calculations needed on your part.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭shineon23


    cheers was thinking the way that someone told me was too good to be true! that sounds like making a lot more sense! I was told it was done automatically, just wanted to calculate to see what i needed to average 70 overall!
    I guess I'll have to do it the old fashioned way and study!:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭rcaz


    I love the annual panic threads :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭shineon23


    Not a panic thread at all, just wondered how it would be calculated!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭rcaz


    shineon23 wrote: »
    Not a panic thread at all, just wondered how it would be calculated!

    Was just a joke! I was making a few posts last year along the lines of, "Yeah, just wondering that, since I'm about to **** up, how big have I ****ed everything up if I **** this up really big?" :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭brian93


    Just a quick question on passing by compensation...

    Does it work in 2 ways?

    - Having higher percentages in your other subjects, bringing you up from <40%
    - Continuous assessment marks high enough to bring you up from <40%

    Or does it work in only one or none of these cases?

    (I'm in 1st Science in case it's a specific answer to each subject!)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,810 ✭✭✭Seren_


    You can pass by compensation if the average of all the results for the subject are 40 or above. You can't compensate over different subjects or semesters, and I don't think CA comes into it, as the result for that would be already included.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭J.D.R


    In regards to this, is it true that when applying for a postgrad straight after 3rd year, that it's all based on your 2nd year results as you final grades wont be ready yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭rcaz


    J.D.R wrote: »
    In regards to this, is it true that when applying for a postgrad straight after 3rd year, that it's all based on your 2nd year results as you final grades wont be ready yet?

    I know the postgrad I was looking at, which had interview and portfolio submission as well, would evaluate you on your interview and portfolio, and if they liked you, would give you a provisional place, which depended on your bachelor's when it was awarded. I'd say that's the norm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 912 ✭✭✭Norrdeth


    It goes on your degree grades mostly, but you apply before they are awarded.
    Funny I know, but application processes can be long. 2nd year or 1st semester
    3rd year grades might be a good inkling of what to expect in your degree but
    it's best to focus most of your attention on 3rd year overall as it is the most
    significant part of your degree grade.

    Most MAs only accept a high 2.1 or above: meaning 65 - 70 % in your final mark, so aim high.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,810 ✭✭✭Seren_


    You don't necessarily need a high 2.1 to get into a masters course, I know plenty of people who have 2,2s (and lower) who were offered a place on courses. If you can prove that you are really interested in the course and are willing to work hard, there is a chance you might get offered a place, even if you don't meet the grade requirement. It's not like CAO offers, you usually have to write a personal statement or attend an interview after you apply, so if you're not the most academic of students that can help. That doesn't mean you shouldn't try and do as well as you can during the rest of your degree though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 912 ✭✭✭Norrdeth


    Well I'm guessing that would be more so the case for courses that are different
    to your undergraduate area. For example my MA was directly relevant to my
    undergrad, So they wanted to see a track record of good work.
    (The grades weren't fantastic but I did fine anyway).

    The reason why I say aim high is that higher grades is that it's easier to get
    money for MAs and PhDs from funding boards if your grades are good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭CaoimH_in


    If I got 69% in my degree. . . would they give me a first if I asked really nice (slept with everyone)?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,416 ✭✭✭Jimmy Iovine


    If you get 69.1% or more then I'm almost certain that it's counted as a first.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 912 ✭✭✭Norrdeth


    Yeah they bring it up if your that close, I was 2% away from a 1st in my undergrad...
    But now I'm averaging a 72.5% in the MA, happy days!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭rcaz


    MAs are just marked as pass or fail aren't they?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 912 ✭✭✭Norrdeth


    Nah that's just PhD's, MAs are graded the same as Bachelors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭CaoimH_in


    So I have a 2% leeway?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 912 ✭✭✭Norrdeth


    Well if you get 69.1 you'll get a first. So maybe more of a 0.9% leeway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭CaoimH_in


    How'd you get a first so!? Scandalous!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,810 ✭✭✭Seren_


    I gathered from Norrdeth's podt that he didn't get a first?

    Also, firsts are overrated. As are 2.1s >.>


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 912 ✭✭✭Norrdeth


    Nah I didn't a 1st...the shame! =P
    Just a decent 2.1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭CaoimH_in


    Ah, simple minded Kevin strikes again! Git!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,540 ✭✭✭freeze4real


    Lads is it true that one can repeat a subject up to 15 credits whereby one believe she can do better.

    Will this be in 2nd/3rd year ?


    thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭rcaz


    Lads is it true that one can repeat a subject up to 15 credits whereby one believe she can do better.

    Will this be in 2nd/3rd year ?


    thanks

    Yeah, you can repeat up to 15 credits and still get honors. Any more than that and you can only get a 3rd class degree. I don't know if that applies to non-final years?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,416 ✭✭✭Jimmy Iovine


    rcaz wrote: »
    Yeah, you can repeat up to 15 credits and still get honors. Any more than that and you can only get a 3rd class degree. I don't know if that applies to non-final years?

    Only applies to final years. You can choose what you want to repeat. It's all here.
    A student who chooses to repeat a passed module, or to take a new module in lieu of a passed module, in order to try and improve a result must relinquish the mark first obtained and accept either 40% or the mark obtained at the second sitting, thus obtaining a lower result on such a module may result in a lower class of Honours being awarded in both the subject and/or the overall qualification than was originally offered.


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