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Household charge fines to be deducted at source

  • 17-12-2011 3:59pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 317 ✭✭


    Since it seems to be a topic which has came out today, as I expected it would given the normal fine/debt recovery procedures, there are people already asking "if this is legal".

    Essentially it sounds like the Local Authority would just pursue an attachment via a order nisi, meaning anyone who owes the debtor money (eg: wages) has to pay an amount to the creditor.

    So it seems to be something which already exists and is unlikely to warrant a challenge as some people are saying.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,868 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Another thing people refusing to pay would need to be aware of is that they will not be able to sell their properties.

    http://www.moneyguideireland.com/household-charge-property-tax-more-details.html


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭Milk & Honey


    Since it seems to be a topic which has came out today, as I expected it would given the normal fine/debt recovery procedures, there are people already asking "if this is legal".

    Essentially it sounds like the Local Authority would just pursue an attachment via a order nisi, meaning anyone who owes the debtor money (eg: wages) has to pay an amount to the creditor.

    So it seems to be something which already exists and is unlikely to warrant a challenge as some people are saying.

    An order nisi is only an attachment order. it does not compel the handover of money.
    The order can only be made against an existing debt and so is of no use over future earnings. The existing methods of debt collection are of no practical use over debts of €100.
    The new proposal is a change from the old although it goes nowhere near doing what should be done, namely a Citizens Account in which monies emanating from the state are credited and where monies due to the state are deducted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    I think it's a disgrace that court fines are going unpaid for crimes like theft, drugs and criminal damage and it's only now they decide to introduce something like this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 691 ✭✭✭baddebt


    MagicSean wrote: »
    I think it's a disgrace that court fines are going unpaid for crimes like theft, drugs and criminal damage and it's only now they decide to introduce something like this.

    I find it a disgrace that the government are willing to rob us blind , yet pay the developers via nama on average 200,000eur a year to enjoy the high life they are use to , despite the fact the fcuked up the economy , and Kenny has the brass neck to stand up and tell us "this was not our fault" , yet rob us and reward those who done the damage


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