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Would it count as racial discrimination to suggest that applicants for certain jobs..

  • 15-12-2011 7:10pm
    #1
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭


    ...should need to either have English as a first language, or be fluent in it to near perfection?

    Not trying to be racist, but there is absolutely nothing worse than phoning technical support for a gadget (as I did a few weeks ago) and having to go through the following:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqnFnWSYzaQ


    So what do you think, am I just being an intolerant gobsh!te or is this a reasonable remark to make? Good command / pronunciation of the English language as a requirement for call centre stuff?


Comments

  • #2
    TeddyTedson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    No it wouldn't be racist. Just a requirement of the employer.


  • #3
    Kylo Ren
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,366 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    Of course not. If they're job is to answer phones in customer care for Italians, guess what? You gotta learn ****ing Italian.


  • #4
    Nolanger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭Nolanger


    Would it be racist to suggest that all Milky Bar kids must be white?


  • #5
    TeddyTedson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    The only people I hate more than racists are n*ggers!


  • #6
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    That's called being practical.


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  • #7
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Would it be racial discrimination to only allow taxi men/women with arms to be drivers?


  • #8
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    language=/=race


  • #9
    C81
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 ✭C81


    speaking the language or at least attempting to speak the language of the country you are visiting or living in, and should be the minimum requirement..
    ingnorance is not an excuse...


  • #10
    LimeFruitGum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭LimeFruitGum


    Ha...I had a couple of vacancies recently for speakers of a particular language, which was an essential requirement for the role in question. But HR told me I couldn't specifically ask for native speakers as it was discriminatory. So I end up getting loads of CVs from people who could barely speak or write in that language and misunderstood key parts of the specs.
    You'll always get a few people applying for jobs who don't meet the requirements, but this was beyond a joke.

    So what is worse... us wasting people's time with an imprecise job notice or HR wasting employees' time by opening the job out to a wide people who overestimate their language abilities. The employee has to filter out all that stuff and fill out feedback forms, request yet another ad in Monster...it just goes on.


  • #11
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    It's a specified requirement for loads of jobs, is it not?


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  • #12
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    The only people I hate more than racists are n*ggers!

    I hate being nagged too.


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