Kickstarter Project - get a PID machine for $200

SeaSide

Interesting project...

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/zpmespresso/pid-controlled-espresso-machine

PPC

Nice!

Just put in a pledge for one.

Reddit thread with more info http://www.reddit.com/r/Coffee/comments/n8og6/this_looks_like_an_amazing_machine_a_kickstarter/

Swampy

SeaSide wrote: »

Interesting project...

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/zpmespresso/pid-controlled-espresso-machine

Damn you. Ordered one too. Really don't need it but I want it.

SeaSide

Would be curious to know what our professional associates on this forum think of it?

PPC

Jason Dominy will be checking out a unit in a few weeks time, just before the funding is collected.
http://jasondominy.tumblr.com/post/14226712197/so-how-can-you-adequately-gauge-their-machine-if-the
Should be interesting to see what he says.

mandarin

SeaSide wrote: »

Would be curious to know what our professional associates on this forum think of it?

I recall Re*ac*tor expressing some scepticism on his twitter feed
http://twitter.com/otherblackstuff

RE*AC*TOR

mandarin wrote: »

I recall Re*ac*tor expressing some scepticism on his twitter feed
http://twitter.com/otherblackstuff

Their initial pitch was very vague. It has fleshed out a little since then.

Even if you accept their claims that their thermoblock does what it does (the pressure profiling I have no doubts about - others have done it with a vibe pump), I still have concerns about how they can make a profit at the price-point they are suggesting, but who knows.

The biggest concern I would have is that this is essentially a big beta test, they are going from prototype stage immediately to having several hundred orders with a set deadline. It's some serious pressure when you have yet to find a production facility.

I wish them luck. I hope they achieve all they are suggesting, and I hope that all the investors get what they are expecting.

PPC

RE*AC*TOR wrote: »

Their initial pitch was very vague. It has fleshed out a little since then.

Even if you accept their claims that their thermoblock does what it does (the pressure profiling I have no doubts about - others have done it with a vibe pump), I still have concerns about how they can make a profit at the price-point they are suggesting, but who knows.

The biggest concern I would have is that this is essentially a big beta test, they are going from prototype stage immediately to having several hundred orders with a set deadline. It's some serious pressure when you have yet to find a production facility.

I wish them luck. I hope they achieve all they are suggesting, and I hope that all the investors get what they are expecting.

They're saying that investors may have to wait upto a year to get their machine.
They can do 50 machines a month from March i think, so its going to be a long wait for some people.
Hopefully at the $300 price point they want to retail for they can make a profit, just take an inital loss on the creation and hope theres enough momentum to carry them into profit.

SeaSide

In case you didnt spot it but they've decided not to make a 240V version. Sticking to the 120V and then you'll have to step it up. Not sure if that really makes any difference or not...

PPC

Yeah, I'm kind of tempted to pull and just buy a 220v model when it comes out if its getting good reviews.
They have 1000%+ funding so i don't mind pulling out.