You wouldn't steal a song to use in your anti-piracy ad.

Logical Fallacy

http://www.pedestrian.tv/entertainment/news/anti-piracy-movie-ads-caught-using-pirated-music/60075.htm

We all know how the rest goes, because thanks to the Motion Picture Association Of America and their foreign associates, every time you hire a DVD, you have to sit through this ad before you get to the main menu. But in what must be the most delicious slice of irony served this year, it has just been discovered that that the music used to soundtrack this 50-second pain in the ass is actually stolen.
Netherlands composer Melchior Rietveldt composed that ominous techno tune for a local film festival after being asked by anti-piracy group BREIN, who are funded by Hollywood. A few years later, he got himself a copy of Harry Potter on DVD and noticed his music was suddenly being used for much wider use than he had originally agreed to in contract. Which essentially means that when they say 'you wouldn't steal a television', that doesn't quite extend to intellectual property.
Legal estimates put the amount of money Rietveldt is owed by pretty much every movie house on Earth at somewhere close to €1 million. Matters got even worse when the chairman of the board of the royalty collection agency in the Netherlands offered to help recoup the funds - but only if he could take a 33% cut. It's bad timing particularly for the US, where the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) is currently a hot topic for its intended transferral of responsibility for pirated from individuals back to small businesses and web hosts. After all, if they can't even look after their own ads, how can they expect anybody else to abide by the law?
Excuse us, we're just going out to steal a handbag.

Quite amusing, the should pay the chap if they wish to regain any credibility i reckon.

Sykk

You wouldn't download a car.

Yes, yes I would!

biko

I hope he takes them to court and sues them for all they're worth.

smash

This is hilarious!

padraig91

http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/2010/07/download-a-bear.png

Seachmall

Nothing gets me going more than irony, hypocrisy and justice.




Must be why I love AH so much...

TeddyTedson

So it's okay to download everything now

humbert

Disappointing low figure in the end though.

Fago!

You wouldn't steal a television. **** yeah i would if i could.

jester77

TeddyTedson wrote: »

So it's okay to download everything now

better upload everything back, just to be safe!

Logical Fallacy

TeddyTedson wrote: »

So it's okay to download everything now

As far as i can tell the set precedent is to spend lots of dosh telling other people they cannot illegal use intellectual property while you yourself illegally use intellectual property.

So yeah, go ****ing nuts i guess, just make sure you tell others not to do it.

Seachmall

humbert wrote: »

Disappointing low figure in the end though.

Yeah, I was expecting tens, even a hundred or so, million.

Clearly he undervalues his work.

Logical Fallacy

Seachmall wrote: »

Yeah, I was expecting tens, even a hundred or so, million.

Clearly he undervalues his work.

It really depends on what way they argue it would have been licensed. I reckon the report is going with the lowest possible figure.

Licensing a song to ads can be a nice bit of cash for an artist, but the value of the license is largely driven by how well the track is actually known and it's perceived value.

1 million for a completely unknown track isn't that bad.

Duggy747

I've the internet downloaded onto my floppy.

I keep it hidden in case the Gardaì come looking for it.

im invisible

anyone know where i can get the extended mix of that tune??

he should do like the riaa (is it them?) and charge a big multiple of what it's worth just to teach them a lesson
isn't that what they do? download a song and find yourself paying millions?

smash

im invisible wrote: »

anyone know where i can get the extended mix of that tune??

try the pirate bay

Nerdkiller1991

Duggy747 wrote: »

I've the internet downloaded onto my floppy.

I keep it hidden in case the Gardaì come looking for it.

And that my friends, is a future registered sex offender.

PogMoThoin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALZZx1xmAzg

Turtyturd

im invisible wrote: »

anyone know where i can get the extended mix of that tune??

Illegally download 2 dvd's which have the ad on them and play one 50 seconds behind the other one.

Aoifey!

That is amazing :pac:

Seachmall

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

It really depends on what way they argue it would have been licensed. I reckon the report is going with the lowest possible figure.

Licensing a song to ads can be a nice bit of cash for an artist, but the value of the license is largely driven by how well the track is actually known and it's perceived value.

1 million for a completely unknown track isn't that bad.

But presumably he gets paid per-use (I'm assuming that's standard, could be wrong) and it must've been used on hundreds of millions of DVDs around the world, so he must get F all per use to only be raking in a million Euro.

MrStuffins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GftfKCTiJ3A

hidinginthebush

bluewolf wrote: »

he should do like the riaa (is it them?) and charge a big multiple of what it's worth just to teach them a lesson
isn't that what they do? download a song and find yourself paying millions?

Well it cost this woman $80,000 per song! Ridiculous!

I love the irony of this story though, I also love the irony of how when you download a film the posy unskippable anti-copyright ad isn't there, but is unavoidable when you pay for a DVD.

Logical Fallacy

Seachmall wrote: »

But presumably he gets paid per-use (I'm assuming that's standard, could be wrong) and it must've been used on hundreds of millions of DVDs around the world, so he must get F all per use to only be raking in a million Euro.

Hopefully that is the argument that he will make, but often times a song is license to an ad for a simple one time payment, with no royalties for the number of times it is used.

Remember, the bigger guys normally have the better lawyers and publishers.

Free ball.

Dont do as i do. Do as i say. HA!

o1s1n

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

/Breathes

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Duggy747

Nerdkiller1991 wrote: »

And that my friends, is a future registered sex offender.

Lol............future.............:pac:

Mike 1972

The guy should be able to take them to the cleaners.

Any assesment of what the track is "worth" is meaningless really. The guy didnt offer to sell it they just took it so he should be able to name his price now. "Fifty billion plus all your firstborn sons and virgin daughters per use" would be my suggestion

Jesus Wept

Rich, steamy bowls of justice.

The guy should release the song as a single and we can make it #1, at least on the downloads chart.

The_Thing

F.A.C.T - Fcuk All Copyright Treaties

MrStuffins

The-Rigger wrote: »

Rich, steamy bowls of justice.

The guy should release the song as a single and we can make it #1, at least on the downloads chart.

Even if it became the most downloaded song ever, it still wouldn't be #1!

The charts don't count pirate copies