Tv in my commercial business

hunkydory1

Hi all. I would like to install a saorview enabled tv for my commercial business. I want to stick RTE News Now on for customers to view as they wait.
What type of tv licence do I need?

watty

You need a Performance Licence too. The Post Office will sort you with a suitable TV licence.

hunkydory1

Is that two tv licences then? Normal licence of €160 plus..? Thanks

emanresu

The Performance Licence is from IMRO.
The tariff depends on the type of premises.

http://www.imro.ie/content/music-users-faq
Q: Do I need a licence if I only watch / listen to the news?
A: Yes you do. An IMRO licence is required if you use a TV or radio in public, even if you only listen to a news channel such as Sky News or BBC News. Copyright music is used during such programming, be it in the introduction/theme music to the news program, within the news program itself or be it in the advertisements broadcast on the TV or radio channel.

watty

Only one is a TV licence
One TV licence at what ever Commercial rate is per premises + a Performance licence (needed even to play radio in shop etc)

Currently Commercial Premises TV licence appears to be same as Domestic at €160.

http://www.rte.ie/about/licence.html

Note the Performance Licence is NOTHING to do with An Post, RTE or Government (other than Copyright law).
See http://www.imro.ie/node/685

Q: It’s only staff that listen to the radio / watch TV in the workplace, the general public don’t have access to the business premises so why do I still have to pay for an IMRO licence?
A: It is irrelevant who in your organisation has access to copyright music via the TV/radio. What is relevant is that the use of music in the workplace is in public and is considered a public performance of the copyright work, because the performance / music use is taking place outside of the domestic environment.

Q: Do I need a licence if I only watch / listen to the news?
A: Yes you do. An IMRO licence is required if you use a TV or radio in public, even if you only listen to a news channel such as Sky News or BBC News. Copyright music is used during such programming, be it in the introduction/theme music to the news program, within the news program itself or be it in the advertisements broadcast on the TV or radio channel.

But you need a TV licence for EACH address.

The Performance Licence is a Royalty as you are creating a "public performance" by placing a TV or Radio in an area open to visitors or public.

Note I'm making NO COMMENT on what I personally think of TV licence or IMRO. I'm just the messenger.

This thread is the only one for opinions on this: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055794011

hunkydory1

watty wrote: »

Only one is a TV licence
One TV licence at what ever Commercial rate is per premises + a Performance licence (needed even to play radio in shop etc)

Currently Commercial Premises TV licence appears to be same as Domestic at €160.

http://www.rte.ie/about/licence.html

Note the Performance Licence is NOTHING to do with An Post, RTE or Government (other than Copyright law).
See http://www.imro.ie/node/685

Q: It’s only staff that listen to the radio / watch TV in the workplace, the general public don’t have access to the business premises so why do I still have to pay for an IMRO licence?
A: It is irrelevant who in your organisation has access to copyright music via the TV/radio. What is relevant is that the use of music in the workplace is in public and is considered a public performance of the copyright work, because the performance / music use is taking place outside of the domestic environment.

Q: Do I need a licence if I only watch / listen to the news?
A: Yes you do. An IMRO licence is required if you use a TV or radio in public, even if you only listen to a news channel such as Sky News or BBC News. Copyright music is used during such programming, be it in the introduction/theme music to the news program, within the news program itself or be it in the advertisements broadcast on the TV or radio channel.

But you need a TV licence for EACH address.

The Performance Licence is a Royalty as you are creating a "public performance" by placing a TV or Radio in an area open to visitors or public.

Note I'm making NO COMMENT on what I personally think of TV licence or IMRO. I'm just the messenger.

This thread is the only one for opinions on this: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055794011

From reading the linked thread, would I be correct in assuming there would be no tv licence or performance licence applicable if I was watching rte via online streaming and had it hooked up to a large hd monitor facing customers?

Only asking like..

watty

Still liable for Performance licence no matter how the content is got.

Online streaming has two issues:
1) Nothing like good enough for a big screen or it would be liable for TV licence.
2) Unless you are on a Top package from very few ISP streaming will exceed your data cap.

Full live IPTV does require a TV licence. (i.e. Magnet Entertainment "cable" TV via IPTV)

Pay the annual TV licence and IMRO or forget it.

Antenna

watty wrote: »

Copyright music is used during such programming, be it in the introduction/theme music to the news program, within the news program itself or be it in the advertisements broadcast on the TV or radio channel.

What if the TV showing the news channel had its volume turned down fully - with subtitles (if available) displayed?
Is this 2nd licence still required then?

Fuzzy Clam

Antenna wrote: »

What if the TV showing the news channel had its volume turned down fully - with subtitles (if available) displayed?
Is this 2nd licence still required then?

If you to ask IMRO that question, the answer would probably be yes :rolleyes:(money grabbing bastards). AFAIK, playing music with earphones in a public or work place does not require a licence so really the answer would should be no.