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What Solid Fuel Range is fit for 18 rads ?

  • 09-12-2011 9:38pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 399 ✭✭


    As above folks i am sick of buying Heating Oil for my central heating,,and can only envisage the price going up and up,,
    I am able to get a few plots of turf every year at a resonable price and have decided that now is the time to think about makeing the switch to solid fuel to heat the house,ill obviously have to get a builder/chimney builder to construct a chimney,an a plumber to install the range, but in the mean time i am looking for recomendations on what type/make range to put in,as i said above i have 18 radiators at present and its a 3500sq ft Dormer Bungalow,,,ive looked a little bit on the net and it seems that most of the bigger ranges only are good for 12/14 rads and hot water,,,I wouldnt need it for cooking as such but would need it for Heating and Hot Water,and as said above i allready have it running on oil,so im thinking of a duel type system,,,,,,,

    Thanks in advance for any info...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,632 ✭✭✭heinbloed


    Well, it is not the radiators which are to be kept warm but the building.
    Get a thermal energy demand calculation done by a professional. Ask for a demand calculation according to EN 12831 or similar.
    From there you can start.
    Some CH heating systems are struggling to keep the house warm with a flow temperature of 70 degrees Celsius, others will do it with 50 degrees Celsius. In between them is about 50% of of boiler sizing.
    The thermal energy demand depends mainly on the building's surface insulation, it's position and the volume it's shell covers.

    So asking for ' how many radiators will the boiler do? ' is the wrong question. Boiler manufacturers/sellers/installers who operate on such simplified thinking are cowboys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 399 ✭✭elaverty


    Thanks,,,the house was only built 5 yrs ago,No scrapeing on insulation and the plumbing was done by a professional plumber wth 40yrs experience,,,i have no doubt that the insulation is above and beyond whats needed and that the 18 existing rads and there locations are fine,,,im really just looking for advice on the type of Solid Fuel Range that i would need to feed the 18 rads,,,,,,I have no problem with the system as it is,except for the price it takes to operate it,,,,,Hence why i want to change from Oil to Solid Fuel,,,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭demanufactured


    No range or stove will run 18 rads up to full blast....between 8 and 10 is about all any will run at decent temps


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,299 ✭✭✭phobia2011


    30kw Boru carrig mor will meet your needs.
    i have 1 heating 13 rads, ( way oversized ) and it could do a lot more, once a good fire is up and running, big chamber, its a savage and money well spent after last year.


    obviously not a range, but considering your not using it for cooking, why choose one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭katnia


    elaverty wrote: »
    As above folks i am sick of buying Heating Oil for my central heating,,and can only envisage the price going up and up,,
    I am able to get a few plots of turf every year at a resonable price and have decided that now is the time to think about makeing the switch to solid fuel to heat the house,ill obviously have to get a builder/chimney builder to construct a chimney,an a plumber to install the range, but in the mean time i am looking for recomendations on what type/make range to put in,as i said above i have 18 radiators at present and its a 3500sq ft Dormer Bungalow,,,ive looked a little bit on the net and it seems that most of the bigger ranges only are good for 12/14 rads and hot water,,,I wouldnt need it for cooking as such but would need it for Heating and Hot Water,and as said above i allready have it running on oil,so im thinking of a duel type system,,,,,,,

    Thanks in advance for any info...

    Our house is around 2,500 sq ft and we got this installed 2 years ago... http://www.stratfordboilerstoves.co.uk/models/freestanding-stoves/stratford-tf90b-boiler-stove.html I have to say it's been great (we have 17 rads of various shapes and sizes), does all the hot water and heats all the rads red hot. The only drawback for us is that we don't have free access to Turf!! It's quite hungry for coal but it's nice to have another option rather than oil. It throws out about 4.5kw to the room and around 24kw goes to the boiler. It's a steel stove, not cast iron so it less 'bullet-proof' you need to make sure you are putting in dry logs etc and no coal with any petroleum or 'coke' present. All in all a great stove that can more than handle heat requirements for our 5 person house, I wouldn't be without now. Great build quality too, and a thermostat that you turn by hand, rather than opening vents etc, burns overnight no problem at all and very easy to control heat output.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭katnia


    No range or stove will run 18 rads up to full blast....between 8 and 10 is about all any will run at decent temps

    Sorry but you are wrong with this statement, ours runs around 17 rads no problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭flossy1


    The best way I use a A/F cooker is to start up with oil , then turn on the cooker and it will
    keep going for along time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 145 ✭✭Plombier


    heinbloed says
    Well, it is not the radiators which are to be kept warm but the building.

    this is correct if you have 30 rooms with radiators requiring 1000 watts thermal input each and a stove with a thermal output of 30 KW 30000 watts then the stove will heat 30 radiators but this means nothing without knowing the losses of each room.


    if you have a
    professional plumber wth 40yrs experience
    then you need to ask his advise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 399 ✭✭elaverty


    Plombier wrote: »
    heinbloed says



    this is correct if you have 30 rooms with radiators requiring 1000 watts thermal input each and a stove with a thermal output of 30 KW 30000 watts then the stove will heat 30 radiators but this means nothing without knowing the losses of each room.


    if you have a then you need to ask his advise.


    He is dead,,,but if he wasnt im sure he would have been the man to ask,,,,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,081 ✭✭✭Stove Fan


    There is this at a price:(

    http://www.thewoodheatingcompany.co.uk/store/range_cookers/central_heating_kitchen_boilers/thermorossi_bosky_30_central_heating_kitchen_boiler

    I think you would be better off just fitting a conventional utility solid fuel boiler like these. Much cheaper and could fit alongside the oil boiler:).

    http://kotly.com/index.php?cPath=45

    It would keep the dust out of the living space:)

    You do really need to get a plumber in to calculate the size of boiler required.

    Stove Fan:)


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