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US EPA Link Fracking with Water pollution

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭cosmicfart


    why are u posting like a cylon?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭danniemcq


    :( i thought it was a battlestar gallactica story :(

    in other news isn't this the same kinda extraction can make flames come from taps?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    nivekd wrote: »
    Bombshell Report Links Water Contamination To Fracking For The First Time

    Read more: http://www.propublica.org/article/feds-link-water-contamination-to-fracking-for-first-time/single#republish#ixzz1g3CNsNM1


    If the US federal authorities have found hydraulic fracturing contaminates the water supply, why do we need the EPA in Ireland to bother with a report?

    Seems like a waste of money.

    Well for a start, would it be right to automatically trust foreign government reports?
    * We don't know if their results were changed/pressurised to alteration by lobby groups or more direct influence?
    * We don't know if they would be using the same testing equipment and how good its maintained and by who?
    * We don't know who paid for their studies sometimes?
    * We don't know how their conditions might differ from ours?
    * We don't know the people that carried the tests out do we and how good they are - are their qualifications the same or better than ours doing same testing?

    ....There's loads of reasons sometimes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 235 ✭✭The Outside Agency


    Cylon hmm...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 235 ✭✭The Outside Agency


    Biggins wrote: »
    Well for a start, would it be right to automatically trust foreign government reports?
    * We don't know if their results were changed/pressurised to alteration by lobby groups or more direct influence?
    * We don't know who paid for their studies sometimes?
    * We don't know how there conditions might differ from ours?
    * We don't know the people that carried the tests out do we and how good they are - are their qualifications the same or better than ours doing same testing?

    ....There's loads of reasons sometimes.

    Why not? What do they stand to gain by lying about it?
    If they say it's safe and destroy their water supply, I'd be more concerned about the consequences of that than getting some gas or oil.
    Water is more important.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    nivekd wrote: »
    Why not? What do they stand to gain by lying about it?
    If they say it's safe and destroy their water supply, I'd be more concerned about the consequences of that than getting some gas or oil.
    Water is more important.

    What would a company have to gain about lies in testing?

    PROFIT!

    One famous example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinkley_groundwater_contamination


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭✭later12


    Profit.

    That's a DURTY word.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    Biggins wrote: »
    Well for a start, would it be right to automatically trust foreign government reports?
    * We don't know if their results were changed/pressurised to alteration by lobby groups or more direct influence?
    * We don't know if they would be using the same testing equipment and how good its maintained and by who?
    * We don't know who paid for their studies sometimes?
    * We don't know how their conditions might differ from ours?
    * We don't know the people that carried the tests out do we and how good they are - are their qualifications the same or better than ours doing same testing?

    ....There's loads of reasons sometimes.

    Ohhh I don't know, but if Fracking has occurred in a locality and you can ignite someone's water because of methane contaminating, you really don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to make a connection.

    Its an exact science but the fracturing of rocks underground can never be, so if you do that you are rolling a dice. Ireland is a small country, no-way as big as the isolated american sites they have been fracking. But Ireland underground is one big water table.

    I say a big NO to this type of energy extraction here.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Watch the documentary film Gasland.

    Then find out they do it in Ireland.


    Be scared and angry.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    44leto wrote: »
    ...I say a big NO to this type of energy extraction here.

    Others more knowledgeable in this area, might be able to tell you if it goes on here.
    I don't know myself and would be lying/bluffing if I said more on the subject of "Fracking" itself.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    I only came into this thread to see what fracking meant.....


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