Ford Mondeos

UN Ops Cyprus

Hi,

Looking to buy a Ford Mondeo when i return and was looking at models from the years 2001-2004. Alot of them have 100 miles or more on the clock so my question is, is it worth buying a 2nd hand Mondeo with over a 100 miles on it. Drove one before and they seemed fairly solid and have heard that Ford is cheap to maintain?.

Any advise would be great,

thanks

UN

vengeance52

If you could get a mondeo over 2003 it would have the TDCI engine which is a little better. Previous engines on the MkIII mondeo is the TDDI engine and sounds very loud and tractor like, i had one myself. That said it was a solid engine and plenty of torque.

See if you can get a Zetec spec model over the LX as it has more features like all electric windows, air con, front fogs and alloys.

Also check the inside edge of the bottom of the doors, esp the back doors as they can rust a little and this may be a haggling point to drive the price down.

In all its a good motor and I drove one for ages and never had a problem and easy to maintain.

Leonard Hofstadter

UN Ops Cyprus wrote: »

Hi,

Looking to buy a Ford Mondeo when i return and was looking at models from the years 2001-2004. Alot of them have 100 miles or more on the clock so my question is, is it worth buying a 2nd hand Mondeo with over a 100 miles on it. Drove one before and they seemed fairly solid and have heard that Ford is cheap to maintain?.

Any advise would be great,

thanks

UN

Good God I would hope that a car that is a minimum of eight years old would have clocked up more than 12.5 miles a year:eek::D! That's barely a mile a month!

lisaj

Other drivers will also wonder if you are a Garda car or not and will drive slow when they see you approach...

Antomus Prime

I have a 02 Tddi mondeo for the last 2 years and the only trouble ive had with it was replacing the clutch (done the flywheel too at the same time, got rid of the dual mass and put in a solid type) and the power steering pump went. But thats just wear and tear. It has 134k miles, serviced at least once a year depending on mileage and it drives like a charm. Always starts on freexing cold mornings, plenty of power in it, and comfortable to drive. It is loud though, for were never great at sound proofing the interiors of their cars. But you get used to the noise after only a few weeks of driving it. I would highly recommend one!!!!

lisaj wrote: »

Other drivers will also wonder if you are a Garda car or not and will drive slow when they see you approach...

And to add to this....... When on motorways etc people always move out of your way... its awesome!!!

Leonard Hofstadter

The older TDdi engines are more reliable, and have exactly the same power as the TDCi models, the main drawback is they are much noisier than the TDCis.

Bawnmore

Anyone own/owned a petrol version of the same? These seem to be going for pittance.

Antomus Prime

Bawnmore wrote: »

Anyone own/owned a petrol version of the same? These seem to be going for pittance.

A friend of mine had one for a year, it was the 1.8 zetec. It went like the clappers but it wasnt the best on petrol. Granted my mate has a heavy foot :pac: but again I would highly recommend the diesel over a petrol!!

Mr Magners

lisaj wrote: »

Other drivers will also wonder if you are a Garda car or not and will drive slow when they see you approach...

Agreed, I had a black Mondeo with an early 07 reg, like loads of the unmarked Mondeos. Regularly had people barreling up behind me on the motorway at speed until they got as far as me and slowed down and pulled in behind me till they were happy they weren't going to get pulled and then off they'd go again!!

Oh the fun I used to have

Rock solid car by the way.I had 240,000+km on mine handing it back and not a bother out of it, 2.0 TDCI

Antomus Prime

Mr Magners wrote: »

Oh the fun I used to have

Rock solid car by the way.I had 240,000+km on mine handing it back and not a bother out of it, 2.0 TDCI

Even more so if you drive around with a high vis on your dash!! :pac:

marvsins

I've got a '05 1.8 petrol. There a fine car but heavy on fuel, i'm lucky if i get to do 30 mpg. I would not recommend a petrol version.

flyingsnail

I have a 03 1.8. I find it a bit heavy on fuel around town but usually get about 33-35 mpg, about 90% of that would be motorway driving from Limerick to Dublin and back.

johnf2020

I think that the Dual Mass Flywheel is probably the only issue with the diesels, but I'm sure that that can be replaced fairly cheaply with the old solid type.

Antomus Prime

johnf2020 wrote: »

I think that the Dual Mass Flywheel is probably the only issue with the diesels, but I'm sure that that can be replaced fairly cheaply with the old solid type.

Yeah thats the only real problem with them, it should never have been put in a car. For a new clutch and flywheel, parts and labout it cost me €680 inc vat. Which wasnt bad at all!

gyppo

captainspeed wrote: »

The older TDdi engines are more reliable, and have exactly the same power as the TDCi models, the main drawback is they are much noisier than the TDCis.

A typical example of why you should never take anything stated on the internet as gospel.

bcmf

FWIW I had a 00 reg Mondeo and got it to almost 300,000 miles (none of this euro km stuff). It had the 1.9 Duratec engine. Only thing to go during its life was an injector and I did fook all in terms of maintenance. Regular oil/air filters and just kept the oil topped up.
The clutch finally gave up the ghost and when I got a qoute for a replacement I said enough is enough

Leonard Hofstadter

gyppo wrote: »

A typical example of why you should never take anything stated on the internet as gospel.

:rolleyes: eh no, the TDCi was available with 90 or 115 PS, exactly the same as the TDdi. Yes there was also a 130 PS and a 2.2 with 155 PS. My point is that for a Paddy spec Mondeo, the LX and Zetec diesels have exactly the same power and torque figures whether they are TDdi or TDCi.

To everyone else, the earlier petrol engined can suffer from burning oil and then there are the swirl flaps, which can get themselves injested into the engine. Of course the burning oil problem also happened to lots and lots of VVTi Toyotas of the same vintage as well before anyone starts telling you to buy a Toyota because it's "more reliable" than the Mondeo.

maxpower2011

Ford Mondeo NT LX 1.8 TDCI 100PS 5SPEED

I looking at an 09 version of the above, its diesel obviously. I ave never been a fan of ford but I'ave a lot more driving coming up with work and I'm looking to get some that's some way ecomomical (I'ave just sold a 2.5 ltre tank) so hoping something like this would be an improvement ? any ideas as to mile per gallon and also, is the 2 litre d more economical ? Finally, am I best waiting till Jan now to buy ?

mondeoman2

bcmf wrote: »

FWIW I had a 00 reg Mondeo and got it to almost 300,000 miles (none of this euro km stuff). It had the 1.9 Duratec engine. Only thing to go during its life was an injector and I did fook all in terms of maintenance. Regular oil/air filters and just kept the oil topped up.
The clutch finally gave up the ghost and when I got a qoute for a replacement I said enough is enough

mondeo NEVER came with a 1.9 litre engine;)

Gate Automation

I have 3 year 1.8 petrol 2002 and i haven't any problems. I recommend don't take TDCi, you can get lot of problem with injectors, clutch, etc. TDDi it's lauder but don't have any problems.

bcmf

mondeoman2 wrote: »

mondeo NEVER came with a 1.9 litre engine;)

1.9 1.8 meh!same difference








was getting mixed up with my current 1.9 A4

gyppo

captainspeed wrote: »

:rolleyes: eh no, the TDCi was available with 90 or 115 PS, exactly the same as the TDdi. Yes there was also a 130 PS and a 2.2 with 155 PS. My point is that for a Paddy spec Mondeo, the LX and Zetec diesels have exactly the same power and torque figures whether they are TDdi or TDCi.

To everyone else, the earlier petrol engined can suffer from burning oil and then there are the swirl flaps, which can get themselves injested into the engine. Of course the burning oil problem also happened to lots and lots of VVTi Toyotas of the same vintage as well before anyone starts telling you to buy a Toyota because it's "more reliable" than the Mondeo.

There was also 130bhp models sold here at one stage in zetec trim. Rare enough, but they were available.
Also there are plenty of ex-uk cars over here, so for a buyer looking at a 5/6 year old mondeo, your paddy spec point is moot.

Breaker19

I have an 01 Petrol Mondeo. Have it for the last 5 years and I can, hand on heart, tell you that i've never had any issues at all with it. Got it when there was about 55K on it and now theres nearly 135K miles. Passed the NCT again last May no bother!! The only thing to go is the Cat converter - just gone a few months but its still driving perfectly. It will have to be changed if i want to put it through the next NCT in 2013.

I have the older type mondeo and it too was brilliant. Steering column went at 155K miles and is pricey so replace (€900 was some of the quotes) so i just replaced it with the 01 model.

Am thinking of changing the car in 2012 and, to be honest, i don't think i'll go beyond the mondeo again - be it the older model or the new one - haven't decided yet - depends on the funds situation.

The only thing to watch out on that i've learned from my research is that if you go diesel, make sure that the flywheel has been done i.e. its been upgraded from the dual mass to the solid flywheel - this is supposed to be a bitch of a job to do and pricey so best to get one with it done or use it as a negotiating tool. also i've heard of issues with the fuel injectors (diesel model also). Otherwise they're fairly bullet proof. cheap to service and plenty of parts from crashed models in scrap yards so can help cut down on costs. Cars handle excellently and are solid!

Best of luck

Leonard Hofstadter

gyppo wrote: »

There was also 130bhp models sold here at one stage in zetec trim. Rare enough, but they were available.
Also there are plenty of ex-uk cars over here, so for a buyer looking at a 5/6 year old mondeo, your paddy spec point is moot.

No, the only Paddy spec Mondeos available with the 130 engine were the Executive or Ghia models. When it came to the Mk3, it was very simple; LXs were 90 PS, Zetecs were 115 and Executive/Ghias were 130 and maybe in latter years the 155 2.2 TDCi (though I think that was UK only for the ST TDCi). It's only with the Mk4 Mondeo that Ford started offering a choice of power outputs for any given trim level for Paddy spec diesels. Also, most cars here are not imports, so my point is hardly moot.

Lex Luthor

lisaj wrote: »

Other drivers will also wonder if you are a Garda car or not and will drive slow when they see you approach...

only if you've got a 07 D reg

cjmcork

OP, I have one and I'd swear by it, mine's diesel with 175k kms on the clock (140k of which went on in the last 3 years), they're a serious workhorse of a car............and has only ever needed routine servicing

btw, mine's a silver 07 with steels (no wheel trims) and a high vis jacket on the back shelf (the old model on a C reg) - I don't get flashed on the M7 to move EVER!!! :D

MugMugs

Do all the UN lads not buy their cars over there and bring them back still ?

guil

captainspeed wrote: »

No, the only Paddy spec Mondeos available with the 130 engine were the Executive or Ghia models. When it came to the Mk3, it was very simple; LXs were 90 PS, Zetecs were 115 and Executive/Ghias were 130 and maybe in latter years the 155 2.2 TDCi (though I think that was UK only for the ST TDCi). It's only with the Mk4 Mondeo that Ford started offering a choice of power outputs for any given trim level for Paddy spec diesels. Also, most cars here are not imports, so my point is hardly moot.

mk3 zetec was available in 125 ps aswell, i have one

Leonard Hofstadter

guil wrote: »

mk3 zetec was available in 125 ps aswell, i have one

That was a petrol though, I was talking about the diesels;)!

guil

captainspeed wrote: »

That was a petrol though, I was talking about the diesels;)!

cushty:cool:

squod

captainspeed wrote: »

When it came to the Mk3, it was very simple; LXs were 90 PS

My LX has a 115 ps TDDi engine. Aircon, heated windscreeen, heated electric mirrors, height and posture adjustable drivers seat, eight airbags and so on. Not all (and I've seen a few) LX models have 90ps diesel engines.

OP there's a label on the timing chain casing that indicates the engines capacity and output.

Leonard Hofstadter

squod wrote: »

My LX has a 115 ps TDDi engine. Aircon, heated windscreeen, heated electric mirrors, height and posture adjustable drivers seat, eight airbags and so on. Not all (and I've seen a few) LX models have 90ps diesel engines.

OP there's a label on the timing chain casing that indicates the engines capacity and output.

Aye, but that must have been an import, Irish spec LXs were available with either the 90 PS diesel or else the 110 PS petrol, unless the very last of the second facelifted versions very available with the engine. Also, Paddy spec LXs did not have electric mirrors, certainly not the original ones and the first facelift (the Mk3 got not one but two facelifts:eek:).

squod

Originally from Armagh alright.

Leonard Hofstadter

squod wrote: »

Originally from Armagh alright.

Sure there you go;)! Sure the UK spec LXs were even available with the 130 PS TDCi as well! They didn't get the Paddy spec 110 PS 1.8 or the 90 PS TDdi/TDCi either, lucky for them.

kk09

Looking at a '09 1.8 Diesel Zetech - anyone have anything experiance on these? 100K Km

sean1141

I just sold a 04 tdci last week. Car was in mint condition and it had just 200k miles on the clock and going strong! As above aim for at least a zetec trim.