Boy racers?

superstoner90

what you think on the subject?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r5S9awSzf4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvoFaRPP7R0

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What's your opinion on the subject?

CianRyan

Chap in the Corolla is a knob.

Nissan doctor

I haven't watched those videos but IMO, 'boy racers' are the clowns who speed around with their mates in the car showing their immense driving skills with handbrake turns, wheels spins etc in public places.

Modified car enthusiasts are just that, enthusiasts, who usually spend huge money on their cars and treat them like they are alive. The same as classic car enthusiasts, harley davidson enthusiasts etc etc

hrcbob

I honestly think that boy racer syndrome is part of wat makes boys boys.. I doubt that there are many fellas among us who didnt think they were the greatest drivers in the world when they only had a few months experience,, I can definatly admitt that i did,, I was lucky enough to get away wit my adventures partly cause my first car was a bucket of crap and partly just pure luck,,
We all showed off to our mates and some of us still do,, Still human nature.

I think this only came to fore front with the rising availibility of proper fast cars and, at the time, the availibility of money to younger fellas..

The fact that nothing was ever done to arrange a few safe places for these guys to practise their skills or lack of them just shows the lack of interest in engaging with young people in ireland.. Any people who tried to arrange safe places for drifiting or drag racing or the like only met with opposition from the neighbours and the councils, the same people who moaned to joe duffey every day about the losses on our roads.

Maybe i just have too simplistic a view but i think if people had a proper outlet for their interests then it would atleasst give them some form of focus.. Idle hands and all that.. Just my 2c.

--Kaiser--

hrcbob wrote: »

The fact that nothing was ever done to arrange a few safe places for these guys to practise their skills or lack of them just shows the lack of interest in engaging with young people in ireland.. Any people who tried to arrange safe places for drifiting or drag racing or the like only met with opposition from the neighbours and the councils, the same people who moaned to joe duffey every day about the losses on our roads.

And what about Mondello and the like?

Drummerboy08

For a start i believe that the term "boy racer" is something that easy coined by out was with nothing better to do with their time.

I believe that every gender and every age group are capable of driving like knobs (and I've witnessed this to back it up).

I think its unfair to brand every young male who spends a few bob on their car a
Boy racer.

hrcbob

--Kaiser-- wrote: »

And what about Mondello and the like?

As someone who uses mondello fairly regularly i can say in my opinion its not a very user friendly place.. Great facility ok, but i feel it could be run far better, Also during the gold rush that went on their prices went thru the roof and have yet to come back to a decent affordable level.

Second you make another point without even trying.. "AND THE LIKE"
There is no like.. Mondello is there donkeys years before motorsport became so popular.. Granted there is tipp raceway and a few small scale places but as far as i know the were always there too..

my point was it wouldnt have cost a mint to have set up somewhere safe for thse lads and lassies to go to hang out and do a bit of watever takes their fancy in a safe open environment.. Everyone talked bout it but when it came to it nobody wanted it on their back door..

Atomic Pineapple

hrcbob wrote: »

my point was it wouldnt have cost a mint to have set up somewhere safe for thse lads and lassies to go to hang out and do a bit of watever takes their fancy in a safe open environment.. Everyone talked bout it but when it came to it nobody wanted it on their back door..

I'd imagine the insurance costs alone would be astronomical though.

Drummerboy08

hrcbob wrote: »

As someone who uses mondello fairly regularly i can say in my opinion its not a very user friendly place.. Great facility ok, but i feel it could be run far better, Also during the gold rush that went on their prices went thru the roof and have yet to come back to a decent affordable level.

Second you make another point without even trying.. "AND THE LIKE"
There is no like.. Mondello is there donkeys years before motorsport became so popular.. Granted there is tipp raceway and a few small scale places but as far as i know the were always there too..

my point was it wouldnt have cost a mint to have set up somewhere safe for thse lads and lassies to go to hang out and do a bit of watever takes their fancy in a safe open environment.. Everyone talked bout it but when it came to it nobody wanted it on their back door..

Id disagree with you mondello's cost though. An open track day costs €100 which is very reasonable imo.

Peter T

Well i think the guy in the white top is a fool and the typical steriotype. Nice to see a guard who distingushes between enthusiests and racers and is a more common sight these days which is great to see. It would be nice to see cheaper facilities for people but again I wouldnt see someone in a 1.3 starlet with a gutter pipe on the end paying 100 quid to go and improve his driving skills on the track when he is already amazing. But i think its clear if you go to any organised car meets its more enthusiests than typical boy racer wanabees these days

Atomic Pineapple

Peter T wrote: »

Well i think the guy in the white top is a fool and the typical steriotype. Nice to see a guard who distingushes between enthusiests and racers and is a more common sight these days which is great to see. It would be nice to see cheaper facilities for people but again I wouldnt see someone in a 1.3 starlet with a gutter pipe on the end paying 100 quid to go and improve his driving skills on the track when he is already amazing. But i think its clear if you go to any organised car meets its more enthusiests than typical boy racer wanabees these days

It depends on the type of meet and which website/group has organised it, its still easy enough to come across a non enthusiasts meet, I came across one in Ashbourne not so long ago!

hrcbob

Drummerboy08 wrote: »

Id disagree with you mondello's cost though. An open track day costs €100 which is very reasonable imo.

My experiences there are mainly bikes, a bike track day bein somewhere in the reigon of 180/140 quid for a day. I think it even went as high as 210 at one stage!!

I think you also have to take into account that for a lot of the people we are talking about, taking their pimped toyota corrola or such like to mondello is a huge step into the unknown and while its alll fun and games havin a laugh with the local lads around home, its a whole other ball game when it comes to going to a fully functioning track.
What i was thinking was a less formal place with a similar set of controls to give lads a chance to have a similar experience but perhaps on a smaller scale..
90% of these guys are happy to do a few rings and an odd handbrake turn and i cant see why a safe place to do that couldnt have been arranged..
Wouldnt be long gettin kicked out of mondello if you decided to do a few rings..

Barzini

hrcbob wrote: »

As someone who uses mondello fairly regularly i can say in my opinion its not a very user friendly place.. Great facility ok, but i feel it could be run far better, Also during the gold rush that went on their prices went thru the roof and have yet to come back to a decent affordable level.

Second you make another point without even trying.. "AND THE LIKE"
There is no like.. Mondello is there donkeys years before motorsport became so popular.. Granted there is tipp raceway and a few small scale places but as far as i know the were always there too..

my point was it wouldnt have cost a mint to have set up somewhere safe for thse lads and lassies to go to hang out and do a bit of watever takes their fancy in a safe open environment.. Everyone talked bout it but when it came to it nobody wanted it on their back door..

Well said.
There's not many places, specially in south (Cork, Kerry, Limerick).

Graham_B18C

Drummerboy08 wrote: »

Id disagree with you mondello's cost though. An open track day costs €100 which is very reasonable imo.

It doesn't cost 100 quid though, for a Bank Holiday monday it's 185, for a non bank holiday it's 165. For a half day it's 99 quid. 185 snots aint cheap and that's the one that most people would wanna do (work commitments and the like)

Gary ITR

Graham_B18C wrote: »

It doesn't cost 100 quid though, for a Bank Holiday monday it's 185, for a non bank holiday it's 165. For a half day it's 99 quid. 185 snots aint cheap and that's the one that most people would wanna do (work commitments and the like)

New 'Winter Days' are €100, they run from 10-3.30 with no break. The last one was on a Saturday, great value IMO

As for the Bank Holiday ones, if it's your road car you're taking a half day is plenty otherwise you're going to need to budget for brakes and tyres

the_syco

Most "boy racers" that I knew, liked their cars, and I doubt they'd race them.

The ones that did race them did so for money and I doubt they'd race in somewhere like Mondello where they'd need to pay to race in.

I doubt the scrotes with the Micras with a tin can hanging outside the back would know how to handle a racetrack, and would most likely come off after every turn, as I can't see their cars having that much grip.

superstoner90

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What's your opinion on the subject?

well , boy racers = D1CKHEADS
that is all...

Graham_B18C

superstoner90 wrote: »

well , boy racers = D1CKHEADS
that is all...

So you started a thread, and all you had to say on it was that? Good man

hrcbob

I can imagine that a lot of car enthusiasts started out as spotty teenagers in micras before they could afford a decent car that they den began to appreciate for more dan just drivin like a tool..

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Graham_B18C wrote: »

So you started a thread, and all you had to say on it was that? Good man

He's on a pretty high horse from driving his Mammy's Yaris around.

superstoner90

i was just wanted to see what other peple had to say about the matter , i have my fare share of penelty points but im no boy racer , belive me...my mate ownes a A4 and its slitely modified but he waxes it and washes it every secound day so you can hardly call some like that a boy racer...what i think of a boy racers not much as there was a fella i knew that was getting a lift off a mate , owned a sizuki swift at the time...the driver had just bought the car that day...so picked up the fella i knew and went racing down the road .. it was reported that the passenger door was open and he was trying to get out of the car..so next thing the car hit the ditch and rolled three times and in to a feild the driver suffered from a broken arm but the passenger was not so lucky he was thrown out of the car on impacted and was found 4 meters from the over turned car...thats why i dont think much of boy racers..sorry about the previous comment..

Tallon

superstoner90 wrote: »

.but i know a lad with a A4

Wow, me too....

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superstoner90 wrote: »

i have my fare share of penelty points but im no boy racer

I think you might be one tbh with ya

barura

superstoner90 wrote: »

i was just wanted to see what other peple had to say about the matter , i have my fare share of penelty points but im no boy racer , belive me...my mate ownes a A4 and its slitely modified but he waxes it and washes it every secound day so you can hardly call some like that a boy racer...what i think of a boy racers not much as there was a fella i knew that was getting a lift off a mate , owned a sizuki swift at the time...the driver had just bought the car that day...so picked up the fella i knew and went racing down the road .. it was reported that the passenger door was open and he was trying to get out of the car..so next thing the car hit the ditch and rolled three times and in to a feild the driver suffered from a broken arm but the passenger was not so lucky he was thrown out of the car on impacted and was found 4 meters from the over turned car...thats why i dont think much of boy racers..sorry about the previous comment..

Did the passenger live?

On the subject of boy racers vs car enthusiasts...

It's subjective. You can be both. A boy racer drives like a knob and puts straight through exhausts on ****ty cars like mine. I can keep my car in stock form and drive it like a knob. On that point, I have done that. I wouldn't consider myself an excellent driver by any means, but I have sped off from the lights up to the speed limit at whatever limited power my car has. I have sped up to make the red light, I won't deny it. I would consider myself to have been tainted by the boy racer curse from time to time, less so now that I realise I need my car to get from place to place, day in day out.

A car enthusiast... Well, I hope to become more of one as I fix my car up. I'd love to get a nicer car and work on that, but in fairness cost and also, there is a big difference between fixing my car up to be stock and run nicely and trying to get blood from a stone that is putting a turbo on my little yoke and get it up to 100bhp or something silly like that. Though it requires skill, it's not really something I'd deem necessary. I think that would be entering boy racer territory for something that small.

All in all, if I am driving fast, it's on the dual carriageway and god forbid the day where I think my car can handle better than it can and roll it on a country road.

So where am I going with this? I dunno. I guess I was just trying to point out it's a gray area for the most part. What I want to do to my car is probably lower it a tiny bit for handling and put an air filter on it. I guess that will make me a boy racer so? But if I do it with knowledge of what I'm doing, is that so bad? It's not like I'm going to put a huge sun visor on the windshield... Alas, it is quite a complicated thing, I feel.

superstoner90

barura wrote: »

Did the passenger live?

On the subject of boy racers vs car enthusiasts...

It's subjective. You can be both. A boy racer drives like a knob and puts straight through exhausts on ****ty cars like mine. I can keep my car in stock form and drive it like a knob. On that point, I have done that. I wouldn't consider myself an excellent driver by any means, but I have sped off from the lights up to the speed limit at whatever limited power my car has. I have sped up to make the red light, I won't deny it. I would consider myself to have been tainted by the boy racer curse from time to time, less so now that I realise I need my car to get from place to place, day in day out.

A car enthusiast... Well, I hope to become more of one as I fix my car up. I'd love to get a nicer car and work on that, but in fairness cost and also, there is a big difference between fixing my car up to be stock and run nicely and trying to get blood from a stone that is putting a turbo on my little yoke and get it up to 100bhp or something silly like that. Though it requires skill, it's not really something I'd deem necessary. I think that would be entering boy racer territory for something that small.

All in all, if I am driving fast, it's on the dual carriageway and god forbid the day where I think my car can handle better than it can and roll it on a country road.

So where am I going with this? I dunno. I guess I was just trying to point out it's a gray area for the most part. What I want to do to my car is probably lower it a tiny bit for handling and put an air filter on it. I guess that will make me a boy racer so? But if I do it with knowledge of what I'm doing, is that so bad? It's not like I'm going to put a huge sun visor on the windshield... Alas, it is quite a complicated thing, I feel.

the driver lived but the passenger was not so lucky when i went up to the wake it was a closed coffin, the family of the lad are still lonesome with out him, but he died on impacted of the crash

...well thats the story i was told , today i was told by the chef that is running the course that i attend, a first cosin of hers died in a car crash (coming home to meet the family as a suprise for christmas) ,there was two lads racing in early hours that morning taking up the whole road , one car in each lane and her cousin came a long and met the car in his lane and swurved right to try to avoid it, mirrors cliped each other and her coisun hit a tree the seat belt left him half dead , so she got a phone call that her coisun was in a car crash about 6 o clock in the morning and she collected a brother from sligo when up to the hospital that morning to say their good byes to the cousin as he was on a life support mechine he late shortly after that, every christmas the family buys him a present and wraps it up and leaves it under the christmas tree and they set a place at the table for christmas dinner aswell for him so its very sad... But I see what you mean about the boy racers and such so thanks for your imput.

hrcbob

superstoner90 wrote: »

the driver lived but the passenger was not so lucky when i went up to the wake it was a closed coffin, the family of the lad are still lonesome with out him, but he died on impacted of the crash

...well thats the story i was told , today i was told by the chef that is running the course that i attend, a first cosin of hers died in a car crash (coming home to meet the family as a suprise for christmas) ,there was two lads racing in early hours that morning taking up the whole road , one car in each lane and her cousin came a long and met the car in his lane and swurved right to try to avoid it, mirrors cliped each other and her coisun hit a tree the seat belt left him half dead , so she got a phone call that her coisun was in a car crash about 6 o clock in the morning and she collected a brother from sligo when up to the hospital that morning to say their good byes to the cousin as he was on a life support mechine he late shortly after that, every christmas the family buys him a present and wraps it up and leaves it under the christmas tree and they set a place at the table for christmas dinner aswell for him so its very sad... But I see what you mean about the boy racers and such so thanks for your imput.

I come across as defending boy racers or what ever you want to call them but only some things can be defended..
the people responsible for those crashes were un doubtably very very stupid..
I can condone lads hangin round carparks and actin the **** at a 4 x roads or the like but as ive said id rather there was a proper place for these things to happen..
It may not be the answer to all things but if there was a place where these guys could race safely without fear of the law or accidents id imagine that even they wouldnt be thick enough to use a public road instead..

EPM

superstoner90 wrote: »

the driver lived but the passenger was not so lucky when i went up to the wake it was a closed coffin, the family of the lad are still lonesome with out him, but he died on impacted of the crash

...well thats the story i was told , today i was told by the chef that is running the course that i attend, a first cosin of hers died in a car crash (coming home to meet the family as a suprise for christmas) ,there was two lads racing in early hours that morning taking up the whole road , one car in each lane and her cousin came a long and met the car in his lane and swurved right to try to avoid it, mirrors cliped each other and her coisun hit a tree the seat belt left him half dead , so she got a phone call that her coisun was in a car crash about 6 o clock in the morning and she collected a brother from sligo when up to the hospital that morning to say their good byes to the cousin as he was on a life support mechine he late shortly after that, every christmas the family buys him a present and wraps it up and leaves it under the christmas tree and they set a place at the table for christmas dinner aswell for him so its very sad... But I see what you mean about the boy racers and such so thanks for your imput.

I've asked in the past that you use punctuation. It's a PITA to read.

Wilberto

barura wrote: »

Did the passenger live?

On the subject of boy racers vs car enthusiasts...

It's subjective. You can be both. A boy racer drives like a knob and puts straight through exhausts on ****ty cars like mine. I can keep my car in stock form and drive it like a knob. On that point, I have done that. I wouldn't consider myself an excellent driver by any means, but I have sped off from the lights up to the speed limit at whatever limited power my car has. I have sped up to make the red light, I won't deny it. I would consider myself to have been tainted by the boy racer curse from time to time, less so now that I realise I need my car to get from place to place, day in day out.

I severly doubt if speeding up to avoid the red light could be considered "boy racer-ish". I mean, the vast majority of road users that I've seen do that. Some, of course, more dangerously than others! I do it sometimes aswell although not too dangerously, only when it's yellow. I'd never/extremely rarely/never run a red light!!

Same with the speeding up from the lights. I mean surely these two things alone don't make a boy racer.

On the subject of Boy/Girl (Let's not be sexist here!) Racers Vs Modified Car enthusiasts, as metioned previously, it is nice that people are seriously beginning to distinguish between the two.

I definately would not classify myself as a boy racer in any way, albeit mainly because I just don't speed!! I know that I'm a good driver, but not sh*t hot. I'm confident behind the wheel but not cocky. And most of all, I try my best not to be a nuisance to other road users.

Yet I still have a "done up" car that I like and enjoy driving. Albeit, not an expensive one. So I do kinda resent the indication in the film that Car Enthusiasts own relatively expensive cars (e.g. Impreza's) while Boy Racer's own 10 year old cheap ol' things. It's all in the driver, and whether he respects the car he/she drives, or whether he/she is just a d**k.

superstoner90

EPM wrote: »

I've asked in the past that you use punctuation. It's a PITA to read.

sorry
here its fixed:

The driver lived but the passenger was not so lucky when I went up to the wake it was a closed coffin, the family of the lad are still lonesome with-out him, but he died on the impacted of the crash. Well that’s the story I was told.

Today I was told by the chef that is running the course that I attend. A first cousin of hers died in a car crash (coming home to meet the family as a surprise for Christmas). There were two lads racing in early hours that morning taking up the whole road. One car in each lane and her cousin came a long and met the car in his lane and swerved right to try to avoid it. The mirrors clipped each other and her cousin hit a tree the seat belt left him half dead. So she got a phone call that her cousin was in a car crash about 6 o clock in the morning and she collected a brother from Sligo went up to the hospital that morning to say their good byes to the cousin. As he was on a life support machine. He died shortly after that. Every Christmas the family buys him a present and wraps it up and leaves it under the Christmas tree and they also set a place at the table for Christmas dinner for him so it’s very sad... But I see what you mean about the boy racers and such, so thanks for your input.

SupraSonic_26

id class myself as enthusiast i will admit tho i have in the supra sped at times when i shouldnt have and once or twice made stupid moves in the car when i was younger but ive put too much money into it to have anything happen to it. ive no intrest in speeding around the place i just want a nice looking car with power that i can use the power on long journeys when i need it. I hate these young fellas pulling up beside me tryingto race me in my supra i just leave them off ive nothing to prove to them or myself i know what the car can do wouldnt waste petrol on entertainign them or asking me to race there 1.9tdi its these people that give proper car heads a bad name.

superstoner90

SupraSonic_26 wrote: »

id class myself as enthusiast i will admit tho i have in the supra sped at times when i shouldnt have and once or twice made stupid moves in the car when i was younger but ive put too much money into it to have anything happen to it. ive no intrest in speeding around the place i just want a nice looking car with power that i can use the power on long journeys when i need it. I hate these young fellas pulling up beside me tryingto race me in my supra i just leave them off ive nothing to prove to them or myself i know what the car can do wouldnt waste petrol on entertainign them or asking me to race there 1.9tdi its these people that give proper car heads a bad name.

Supra, 3.0L twin turbo? Sure you would leave them sitting.

nikkisixx69

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No personal attacks. Keep it friendly.

focus_mad

evilmod wrote:

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No personal attacks. Keep it friendly.

You get used to it...

12 day old thread for that though?

Bonesy.

I have no problem with boy racers once they can actually drive, but going flat out on bad roads after one lesson from a mate.. that's just thick. But I've noticed a huge drop in the number of boy racers, I live in an estate that used to be filled with them and now there's nothing to be seen..