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Golfer of the Year Format

  • 06-12-2011 11:42am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 414 ✭✭


    We are currently reviewing how we calculate GOY and looking to see how other clubs do it..

    We include a competition every week and award from 1st to 10th with points 10 down to 1,

    Various opinions. Some think this is the fairest as it shows the GOY across the entire season, others think medals and majors only. The reservation then is the people who only make an effort for the "occassions"can then win it.

    Any thoughts on this?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 753 ✭✭✭denishurley


    How about if you had 10-1 for 'normal' competitions and then have a select few (captain's prize, president's prize etc) where it's top 20, say, going from 20-1?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,187 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    My club includes medals and majors along with a couple of cups and other larger tournaments throughout the year. Total number of competitions considered amounts to about 12 or 13 between April and October. Points are awarded as 11pts for a win, 9 for 2nd, 8 for 3rd etc all the way down to every participant entering getting 1pt (same as finishing 10th). I think this is fair as it's a broad enough sample throughout the year and includes the main competitions everyone tries to play anyway.

    Including every weekend competition has it's merits in terms of increasing playing numbers in the smaller events but it's asking alot from players to compete week in week out which is not always possible due to work/family commitments. Also if you include every weekend competition the argument arises whether you should include midweek competitions as well for those unable to play in weekend competitions. If including a competition every week for the 28 weeks between April and October I'd be inclined to count a players best 20 from 28 results in order to build in some flexibility by not having to attend every single weekend so as to be competitive in the GOY competition.

    In a small society in which I play we have 6 events throughout the year with the GOY declared from your best 5 out of the 6 competitions. Points are awarded as 20 for a win, 17 for 2nd, 15 for 3rd, 14 for 4th and so on with every participant playing receiving 1pt (same as finishing 17th). This is probably a better points system as it weights a top 3 finish more favorably while also distinguishing between finishing somewhere like 14th from 25th. It also creates a more exciting finale round since more players can be in contention from a top 3 performance even if they're somewhat down the leaderboard.

    I've also seen GOY leaderboards in other clubs based on your nett score recorded in each of the included events. Don't know the details but it looked interesting and would reward someone for having consistent results rather than a string of good performances and blowouts. Given the varying playing conditions throughout the year I think such a system would have to be relative to the CSS rather than just the nett score to equalize the results.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 366 ✭✭sodbuster77


    We take your nett differential from your 8 best cards out of 14 events. All stroke play. Medals, captains etc. For example if your nett diff from the first event was +5 and your nett diff from the next event was -2 your score would be +3. We had six lads all in with a shout on the last day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 484 ✭✭AldilaMan


    Ours is based on 7 medals, Captain's, President's and club championship net basis (which is a bit odd for a gross comp). 15pts the winner, 14pts second all the way down to 1pt for 15th place. Some people argue that it's not a great system because if you feature well in 3 or 4 events you'll probably win it. It's normally won with around 40pts.


  • Subscribers Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭PhilipMarlowe


    At Gowran Park it's 8 monthly medals from March to October (inc Captain's & Presidents). Only the President's is stableford and all are played off the back markers.
    The top 8 players get points; 10, 8, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 so there's a little weighting at the top.

    I prefer it this way rather than over more competitions because it helps differentiate a medal from a 'usual' Sunday stableford. No-one runs away with the competition so there is a good few in with a chance on the final Sunday.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 775 ✭✭✭Woodgate


    Our club runs GOY over 14 events (medals, caps day, pres day and other big comps) with your best 8 counting, you get 20 points for equalling SS, then +1 or -1 for all above or below. So if you shot 4 better than SS you get 24pts, etc... It works well and no one has ever complained or suggested different.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 414 ✭✭what2do


    Thanks for all your input... more points for discussion!

    Just in relation to the weekday comp - its womens GOY so the majority actually play during the week and not weekend - throw back to the days of associate membership I believe!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭jtown


    Play in a local Society. (5 outings a year)

    15 for 1st
    12 for 2nd
    11 for 3rd and so on

    Golfer gets 2 points for playing too. Try and boost numbers.

    5 people can win GOY with last outing to go.. :D me included :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭castor 1


    what2do wrote: »
    We are currently reviewing how we calculate GOY and looking to see how other clubs do it..

    We include a competition every week and award from 1st to 10th with points 10 down to 1,

    Various opinions. Some think this is the fairest as it shows the GOY across the entire season, others think medals and majors only. The reservation then is the people who only make an effort for the "occassions"can then win it.

    Any thoughts on this?

    Medals and majors only would just suit the 'handicap cheats' - those that manipulate their handicaps to try and win the majors.:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,879 ✭✭✭D3PO


    We take your nett differential from your 8 best cards out of 14 events. All stroke play. Medals, captains etc. For example if your nett diff from the first event was +5 and your nett diff from the next event was -2 your score would be +3. We had six lads all in with a shout on the last day.

    Ive not seen this format before but I think its a great way of doing it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,187 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    We take your nett differential from your 8 best cards out of 14 events. All stroke play. Medals, captains etc. For example if your nett diff from the first event was +5 and your nett diff from the next event was -2 your score would be +3. We had six lads all in with a shout on the last day.
    D3PO wrote: »
    Ive not seen this format before but I think its a great way of doing it.

    Agreed, really rewards consistent golf especially when all the competitions are stroke play. Makes you focus on every shot trying to score the best possible result for every outing as a blowout is really punished not only costing you the competition but also possibly the GOY.

    Question, how do you manage it in terms of non returns with players not completing a hole in stroke play or players not playing in the competition at all?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,879 ✭✭✭D3PO


    Question, how do you manage it in terms of non returns with players not completing a hole in stroke play or players not playing in the competition at all?


    Its the best 8 out of 14 cards :)


  • Subscribers Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭PhilipMarlowe


    castor 1 wrote: »
    Medals and majors only would just suit the 'handicap cheats' - those that manipulate their handicaps to try and win the majors.:(
    That's the system we use and this year we had 8 different winners in the 8 medals & majors.
    Only nine players score points twice and 1 player scored points 3 times (a 3 handicapper was 5th, 6th & 8th). It was won with 16 points (a win and a 3rd place).
    Strokeplay golf off the back tees with a SSS of +2 doesn't generally lend itself to winning "on demand".


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