Any info

Magnum

Hi Guys I found this in my Dads attic and was wondering if anyone knew anything about it or who might have made it ?

Degsy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD7NKTMk10w

Magnum

So It's called a picture box then ?

Degsy

Magnum wrote: »

So It's called a picture box then ?

Nope..its actually an Edwardian glass jewelry box(i think)!

Magnum

Degsy wrote: »

Nope..its actually an Edwardian glass jewelry box(i think)!

Oh ok, cool, must have been done specially for the Exhibition in Cork in 1902......

Degsy

Magnum wrote: »

Oh ok, cool, must have been done specially for the Exhibition in Cork in 1902......

Yep...its whats known a souviner piece,probably sold on a stall outside the exhibition.
It certainly wouldnt be hugely valuable but its a nice piece just teh same.

Magnum

I also found this little spoon, I wouldn't even know how to decipher the markings on this.

Degsy

Magnum wrote: »

I also found this little spoon, I wouldn't even know how to decipher the markings on this.

Made by Joshua Buckton,24 Henry St Dublin 1800's.

Magnum

Degsy wrote: »

Made by Joshua Buckton,24 Henry St Dublin 1800's.

Jeez, that was fast, Nice little old spoon, Cheers..

coylemj

That's an Irish Sterling Silver hallmark i.e. it was stamped in the Dublin Assay Office. The letter 'H' (in that style) indicates the year 1878.

Magnum

coylemj wrote: »

That's an Irish Sterling Silver hallmark i.e. it was stamped in the Dublin Assay Office. The letter 'H' (in that style) indicates the year 1878.

Nice one, a 133 year old Irish Silver spoon....

Degsy

Magnum wrote: »

Nice one, a 133 year old Irish Silver spoon....

And possibly worth a bob or two...Irish silver is very collectable.

Magnum

Degsy wrote: »

And possibly worth a bob or two...Irish silver is very collectable.

Just wondering should I clean it up and get it valued then or get it valued as it is ?

Degsy

Magnum wrote: »

Just wondering should I clean it up and get it valued then or get it valued as it is ?

Get a bit of Silvo on a soft cloth and give it a clean..it should come up very well.

Magnum

Ok, I've done some cleaning and here is the result (done some other little bits also)







I can't see any markings on this guy

Degsy

Lovely collection of items you got there.

Looks like a mustard spoon,a sugar cube tongs,a napkin ring,a fish knife and a lion claw pendant..no idea what the cup is for but it might be older than the rest of the stuff. edit and a vestas case with a monogram!

You should get this stuff valued correctly..do NOT take it to a tinpot antique shop or a We Buy Gold shop they either have no idea what they're doing or they'll rip you off.

Take em to a reputable auction house or a silversmiths.

Magnum

I should be in Limerick tomorrow, so I might take these pieces with me and see itf there are any valuers there that could give me a valuation.

Thanks for your help Degsy...

Wild_Dogger

The vesta case should be worth 30 euro (auction price)
The mustard spoon is about 10 - 15 euro and is a little earlier in style ( early 19thC)
The plated egg-spoon , tongs etc are of little or no value .
The cup is a container for a glass , and really only has a scrap value . It can be roughly dated to the early part of the 1900's .

However , the pendant looks to be a really nice quality item !
Im keen to know what value you get on that one .
The quality is all there !

zimmermania

Magnum wrote: »

I also found this little spoon, I wouldn't even know how to decipher the markings on this.

made by john smith 1878

Magnum

Cheers for that, I still have not gone to get them valued and am hoping to get them valued early next week, Interesting to know why you think the tongs are of little value, I'm trying to get a proper pic of the hallmarks on this item, this is the only pic i have at the moment, let me know your thoughts..

Wild_Dogger wrote: »

The vesta case should be worth 30 euro (auction price)
The mustard spoon is about 10 - 15 euro and is a little earlier in style ( early 19thC)
The plated egg-spoon , tongs etc are of little or no value .
The cup is a container for a glass , and really only has a scrap value . It can be roughly dated to the early part of the 1900's .

However , the pendant looks to be a really nice quality item !
Im keen to know what value you get on that one .
The quality is all there !

Magnum

I've looked at the pendant again and found these markings, I think it has the number 575 or 525 stamped on to it, I have attached some pictures.

zimmermania

tongs made in birmingham 1941 worth approx 30 euro butter knife e.p.n.s a fiver cant read markings on other spoon

danpatjoe

Apologies to Magnum for butting in on his thread, but I have a quick question to ask...

I usually hang out in the militaria section, where it the community generally frown upon the cleaning/polishing of silver medals thereby removing the patina.
My question is, does cleaning de-value silverware (like the cutlery in this thread), or do people prefer to buy them already polished?

Regards - Dan

zimmermania

danpatjoe wrote: »

Apologies to Magnum for butting in on his thread, but I have a quick question to ask...

I usually hang out in the militaria section, where it the community generally frown upon to the cleaning/polishing of silver medals thereby removing the patina.
My question is, does cleaning de-value silverware (like the cutlery in this thread), or do people prefer to buy them already polished?

Regards - Dan

Cleaning does not de-value,i clean silver by washing in washing up liquid and then put it away.Those who display silver naturally like to have it looking good so they polish regularly,most siver on sale at auctions is well polished and its the same in antique shops.Silver does tarnish and looks very grubby,some selllers sell uncleaned and some sell polished.There is no hard and fast rule,normal hand polishing will not de-value a piece.

Magnum

So, I went to an auction house in Limerick today to get these items valued with an option to have them sold at the next action.

The valuations I got were as follows

Silver tongs and silver spoon (1878) Scrap value €10.13c ????

Lions Head Pendant (stamped 975 silver) €40+ at auction. He commented that it was a very unusal item.

Little glass box €30+ at auction

Fish slice and the rest of the items he would group together to get €10 at auction


I brought the items home........



I may just end up putting them on adverts for my Dad...

Degsy

Magnum wrote: »

I may just end up putting them on adverts for my Dad...

Be advised that adverts is full of time wasters..i have a silver tea set for sale for over a year at 70 euro..i've been "offered" several quotes below that and have accepted them only for the buyer to cease contact altogether.

You will find few people willing to offer asking price on antiques and lots of people willing to faff you about.

GubMan

I see your tea set Degsy, its what my wife is looking for this xmas, although I know she wants a less ornate set to use so while yours is value I would reckon, I know its not going to suit what I need. Has anyone on here any ideas where I can get a simple silver tea pot (the heavy kind) and a tea set? She saw some pic recently of tea sets that are mixed patterns and I cannot for the love of me find one anywhere. Should I head for antique shops? If so, which ones are worth checking out? (I'm midlands based so Leinster would be preferable) Or where else can I get the above? All help greatly appreciated!:)

Wild_Dogger

Gubman - it depends how much you want to pay and if you want silver or silver plated example .

Magnum - most silver gets scrapped these days , the price is of melt silver is good at the moment . So hes probably right !

I like the pendant , nice detail on the casting .
The "925 mark" is the sterling standard for silver ( 92.5 % silver)
The stone is bowenite I think .

(I dont think women would be queuing up to wear it , but it is a nice little collectible)