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Why are my mono prints brown?

  • 06-12-2011 12:37am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,093 ✭✭✭


    I really enjoy printing at home and get awesome colour results from my Canon MG printer. The problem is that when I convert to mono, the resulting print seems a little tinted with brown, possibly even purple? It's hard to describe, though it's clearly not black and white as it should be.

    Has anyone any thoughts on what's causing this? I don't see how it could be a monitor calibration issue as it's a purely greyscale image.

    Here's the shot if it helps:

    6462955087_2bc8bbdc75_z.jpg
    Pidgeon House1 by paulrichardoleary, on Flickr


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76 ✭✭abyss


    Probably you have to do good calibration process. And it's not too easy without knowledge and equipment.

    What you can do:
    Printers usually use CMYK colours (Cyan Magenta Yellow Black ) to print images.
    Is your picture in RGB or CMYK?
    In RGB case convert it to B/W and later into CMYK. Check all channels (separate CMYK in PS). If B = Black channel will do omit (just clear) other, save picture as CMYK TIFF and try to print. It's not the best way, but can slightly help.
    You can also try work with you printer driver - maybe you have B/W profile options...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,319 ✭✭✭sineadw


    It's probably your settings. Are you using the correct ICC profile for the printer/paper combination? Do you have your management policies set? For example, if you set photoshop to manage colour (recommended if you're not using rip software) then you *must* turn off colour management in the printer.

    It's generally considered wisest to leave the file in RGB and allow the software to convert to CMYK..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,713 ✭✭✭DaireQuinlan


    Probably some contaminants in your fix or stop baths. Do you thoroughly wash your trays before use ?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 9,047 CMod ✭✭✭✭CabanSail


    Quite the opposite to wet processing. Getting Monochrome out of a printer is a LOT harder than colour. If your printer has only 4 inks CMYK then it's damn near impossible and you will get a colour cast. A well calibrated printer with 7 or 8 inks can produce a good result. The sort of machines that stcstc uses will get good results

    I have seen prints from a converted Epson 9880 which uses 7 shades of black ink. The results were close to very good fibre based prints from a darkroom. The cost was AU$400 (~€300) per metre of 44" print.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭stcstc


    generally this happens when the print only has a single or dual black inks, the printer is then trying to create the shades of grey from the coloured inks


    and it never quite works very well


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,891 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    if your print is coming out brown, take a photo of it, change the hue so it looks blue, and print again!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    Can you force the printer to use only the black toner/ink in the print dialogue window?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭stcstc


    if the printer has 2 or less black inks you wont be able to force it to produce anything remotely neutral normally

    for B&W neutral prints you need a printer with a min of 3 shades of black in in them generally


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,891 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    colour me ignorant, but isn't there only one shade of black?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj84tfS7ag4


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,713 ✭✭✭DaireQuinlan


    colour me ignorant, but isn't there only one shade of black?

    Take some mushies some day and look long and hard at a magpie and try and tell me there's only one shade of black :-)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭stcstc


    well my 2 epson 44" printers both have

    light light black
    light black
    photo black

    actually there is a matte black too, but that replaces the photo black

    :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76 ✭✭abyss


    As far I know it is quite simple printer - he mention at the start model "Canon MG printer" - maybe this one... http://www.adorama.com/ICAMG5220.html?utm_term=Other&utm_medium=Shopping%20Site&utm_campaign=Other&utm_source=gbase


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