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Recovery: How can you help?

  • 05-12-2011 11:59pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9


    Every person can help in the recovery of the country. A small gesture could be one or more of:
    - Donate a pint (not literally). Just drink one less pint a night, and donate the cost of the pint.
    - Donate a pack of cigarettes
    - Donate a bar of chocolate

    Focus more on donating things that are imported.
    Focus more on charities that you think will serve the country.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    how does donating money to charity help the country recover?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭tenchi-fan


    How would that help?
    The more charities get, the more they spend.
    Best way is to pay fair prices to local people for locally produced products and services.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 frogprince


    how does donating money to charity help the country recover?

    The common people do not have control over the budget being announced. But we do decide how the poor are going to suffer as a result of.
    I should have called the thread "In a strict budget: How can you help?" to be more precise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭tenchi-fan


    frogprince wrote: »
    The common people do not have control over the budget being announced. But we do decide how the poor are going to suffer as a result of.

    OK. But how's that going to help the recovery?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    frogprince wrote: »
    But we do decide how the poor are going to suffer as a result of.

    You mean those already on multitudes of benefits that my tax money* is being pissed away on already?

    *(up to Aug this year anyway)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 frogprince


    You mean those already on multitudes of benefits that my tax money* is being pissed away on already?

    *(up to Aug this year anyway)

    If you do not find a charity that you think is helping this country, then keep your money. I respect your decision.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭books4sale


    OP, I noticed you only have 5 posts since 2007, with those kind of stats you lack any cred.

    Good luck! :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭tenchi-fan


    books4sale wrote: »
    OP, I noticed you only have 5 posts since 2007, with those kind of stats you lack any cred.

    His previous post to the forum was "where the number of muslim population grows to become 80% of Ireland (Inshallah)*; will the homosexual people still be allowed to have their freedom?"

    * "God willing"

    Perhaps the cause we should donate to is gay rights in case frogprince's wishes come true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    frogprince wrote: »
    If you do not find a charity that you think is helping this country, then keep your money. I respect your decision.

    So I'll donate money to the DSPCA, how does this help the country recover?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭WIZE


    So I'll donate money to the DSPCA, how does this help the country recover?

    Donate to your Bank Manager :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,934 ✭✭✭RichardAnd


    OP, I commend anyone that wants to help another soul. You'll probably find poor soil for such seeds here but how and ever . . .

    I personally don't really believe in donating money to charities because to be honest, how can I know where that money goes? I have heard stories from people who work for organised charities and they told me about Christmas parties paid for by the company and the generous salaries of their managers. I would have no issue with this in a profitable company but given the nature of their mission, I'm a little perturbed.

    I think the best solution to helping others is to keep it local. I have a friend who isn't too well off and from time to time, I help her out with minor things. It's not much but at least I know that the aid I give is being used for what it should and as there's no middle man, all of my money goes to the person that needs it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭bamboozle


    or if we wanted to help recovery we could

    not shop up North
    buy irish made Christmas presents ie - get someone a nice bottle of Irish whiskey rather than a bottle of wine etc etc
    Buy Irish made christmas cards


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    bamboozle wrote: »
    or if we wanted to help recovery we could

    not shop up North
    buy irish made Christmas presents ie - get someone a nice bottle of Irish whiskey rather than a bottle of wine etc etc
    Buy Irish made christmas cards

    And if those Irish items are bought up north? Helping our exports!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭antoobrien


    gurramok wrote: »
    And if those Irish items are bought up north? Helping our exports!

    Buy your local hospice/charity cards.

    Anybody in West of Ireland there are several good charities to give to for anyone wishing to go down that route:
    Croi (West Of Ireland Cardiac Foundation, UCHG)
    Western Alzheimers (Ballindine, Co Mayo)
    Cancer Care West (Galway)
    Galway Hospice (Renmore, Galway City)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    antoobrien wrote: »
    Buy your local hospice/charity cards.

    Anybody in West of Ireland there are several good charities to give to for anyone wishing to go down that route:
    Croi (West Of Ireland Cardiac Foundation, UCHG)
    Western Alzheimers (Ballindine, Co Mayo)
    Cancer Care West (Galway)
    Galway Hospice (Renmore, Galway City)

    What are the salaries of the charity bosses? http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/kfgbidgbqlgb/rss2/

    And what's your reply got to do with the recovery or buying Irish goods?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭antoobrien


    antoobrien wrote: »
    Anybody in West of Ireland there are several good charities to give to for anyone wishing to go down that route:
    Croi (West Of Ireland Cardiac Foundation, UCHG)
    Western Alzheimers (Ballindine, Co Mayo)
    Cancer Care West (Galway)
    Galway Hospice (Renmore, Galway City)
    gurramok wrote: »
    What are the salaries of the charity bosses? http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/kfgbidgbqlgb/rss2/

    I notice that none of the ones I've mentioned are on that list, but then theres a reason I refuse to give money any charity that isn't lcoally based either.
    gurramok wrote: »
    And what's your reply got to do with the recovery or buying Irish goods?

    Donations don't have to be money do they? The OP suggested donating imported items etc.
    antoobrien wrote: »
    Buy your local hospice/charity cards.
    The Christmas cards I buy are usually locally created and printed - so stop harping and identify some local products. Besides I've purposely picked the above charities, in areas that are short of funding - so donating to them will help local services, because people in my family have required the use of one or more of the services.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 frogprince


    gurramok wrote: »
    What are the salaries of the charity bosses?

    Wow, that's interesting. Perhaps we need better charities :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭tenchi-fan


    gurramok wrote: »
    And if those Irish items are bought up north? Helping our exports!

    That's right. The FG government wants the recovery to be export-driven, after all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭tenchi-fan


    frogprince wrote: »
    Wow, that's interesting. Perhaps we need better charities :(

    Have a look at this article: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/1128/1224308220276.html

    In 2009, income for all non-profits was €5.75 billion. Payroll costs were €4 billion.

    The government had been planning on shaking up the charities and not for profit sector to ensure greater accountability and transparency but with the cuts these changes will not be going ahead. See http://debates.oireachtas.ie/dail/2011/05/12/00080.asp


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 frogprince


    tenchi-fan wrote: »
    Have a look at this article: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/1128/1224308220276.html

    In 2009, income for all non-profits was €5.75 billion. Payroll costs were €4 billion.

    The government had been planning on shaking up the charities and not for profit sector to ensure greater accountability and transparency but with the cuts these changes will not be going ahead. See http://debates.oireachtas.ie/dail/2011/05/12/00080.asp

    I was ignorant. I was under the impression that most charities operate at 5-10% operational-expense/income. Now I regret donating to Simon :(


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,768 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    A good charity which supports local people would be the SVP.

    Whilst the costs running the charities do seem high, offhand I'd reckon the income in to cost ratio would be better than the government's. For them to seek to "reform" the sector, perhaps they should set their own financial house in order.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,846 ✭✭✭Fromthetrees


    + 1 SVP.
    As far as I'm aware they are run mainly by volunteers, I know someone who got their electricity cut off a few months ago and they helped out, also as far as I'm aware the money stays very local, you donate money in Sligo it goes to someone from Sligo, you donate a buggy in Sligo it's sold for a fiver in a Sligo SVP shop.


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