setter barking

fitzy_fitzy

Hi Guys ( Thanks for your help on getting setter to drop)
Quick question, i have two setters one is 13 months had her since she was pup i bought a 4 yr old setter two weeks ago. Both are bitches.
My problem being when i take the 4 yr old setter out hunting the other one goes balistic barking.
I would bring the two them but the young bitch is too giddy at the moment.
I was out last sathurday 1km from the house and could hear her howling, had to go home.
Even though leaving in country getting hassle from neighbours.
Any suggestions and advice must appreciated.

Vizzy

The young one is jealous,simple as.
You need to take it out with you on a long leash(e.g 50ft+) and get her to work in the field.
I would even go back a step from that actually and trian/teach her to behave(sit,come etc) before you go out.
When you have her out you can control her on the leash and walk her in to sets etc.Working with an older dog will bring her on in leaps and bounds.
There is of course the option of a bark collar but I think that it might be counterproductive cos she simply wants to go and hunt.
As always,time with the dog is the answer to nearly every problem.

pugw

Lock her into her box before you put on any of your hunting gear/ wellies or produce the gun then hopefully she wont cop on! I used be in a similar situation with a dog that would go mad if it wasnt brought, the minute he saw you putting on the wellies he started chasing around the place!

fitzy_fitzy

Cheers Lads
Vizzy i know what you are saying and i have spent alot of time with Molly(13 month old).I have her dropping and returning perfect at home and she is getting better in the field. She is just not setting yet and i know she can learn alot from older dog (on a lead) and i will do that.
But she needs to learn that she can't always come.
Last weekend i had Meg (4 yr old) out Sathurday and molly out Sunday.
Im sure Meg was'bnt too happy on Sunday but no barking.
I know Molly is still a pup and mad for action, which she does get.
I was hoping there was something i could do, to let her know that all this barking is not on.
Im reluctant to introduce collar.
In the evenings i have the two out together in garden, would it help if i brought them out individually so she would get use to been left in kennel on her own.
PUGW i will trying leaving the gear off and locking her up first, dont think it will work though.
Vizzy is right she is JEALOUS, but there has to be somewhere around it.

Vizzy

fitzy
It might be that she has seen the "new arrival" being brought off when she thinks that she should be goin.Afterall the new dog is only there for the last 2 weeks. I would think that she will grow out of it but thats no consellation at the moment.
What you could try is to lock Molly in the run and play with Meg outside the run.When Molly barks( and I can almost guarantee that she will) go over to the run with a basin of cold water and shout "stop" at the same time as you give her the full basin of water.Then walk away and ignore her.
If she realises that you will give her attention(even unwelcome attention) every time she barks,well,you might as well set up a tent in the garden.
BTW I had the same prob with my fella and if you think that a setter can howl and bark,you ain't heard nothing until you get a Vizsla.
He grew out of it but he still barks as soon as it gets dark cos he associates darkness=dinner=going to bed.

Best of luck and keep us posted.