Kerosene in a car

Carb

Ignoring the potential irony of putting kerosene in a Mercedes as witnessed at the weekend, what are the likely long term consquences of doing this. I know if I wanted to put diesel in my kerosene burner, I'd have to get the jets and settings changed. How does this work with cars? Would it need to be diluted with diesel. I don't think they filled it.

Car was a 07 C Class so I guess its classed as a modern diesel.

shedweller

Carb wrote: »

Ignoring the potential irony of putting kerosene in a Mercedes as witnessed at the weekend, what are the likely long term consquences of doing this. I know if I wanted to put diesel in my kerosene burner, I'd have to get the jets and settings changed. How does this work with cars? Would it need to be diluted with diesel. I don't think they filled it.

Car was a 07 C Class so I guess its classed as a modern diesel.

The lubricity of kero is lower so your fuel pump will seize in no time. You'll also have to pay duty on it.

MidlandsM

Carb wrote: »

Car was a 07 C Class so I guess its classed as a modern diesel.

Yep, it'll run good on home heating oil, and it'll give you another 50 bhp without a remap *



































*all of the above is pure bollox.:pac:

Chimaera

The lubricity of kero is lower so your fuel pump will seize in no time. You'll also have to pay duty on it.

This, and it's got a lower calorific value so power will be down and fuel consumption up.

If you happen to have some good quality biodiesel to blend it with you can take care of the lubricity issue, but you're still stuck with the rest.

dr.fuzzenstein

Green diesel yes, but illegal, kerosene, probably not a good idea, probably not legal.

headmaster

I'm not disagreeing with anyone and have to be on good behaviour with the mods, but my experience is, the kerosene works away with no problems whatsoever and has done so for the past 4/5 years. I'm talking about a 2ltr mondeo, still flying as good as ever and serviced in the normal way

mathepac

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

... kerosene, probably not a good idea, probably not legal.

Illegal, defo illegal

keppler

headmaster wrote: »

I'm not disagreeing with anyone and have to be on good behaviour with the mods, but my experience is, the kerosene works away with no problems whatsoever and has done so for the past 4/5 years. I'm talking about a 2ltr mondeo, still flying as good as ever and serviced in the normal way

+1 on this.
A close family member of mine has been running his 01 renault kangoo on a 50/50 mix of kerosene/road diesel for the past 100k miles and no probems to speak of yet. He reckons it does give less energy per unit volume but for him the fiscal savings still work out much in his favour.

*for the record, i do not partake in the above actions nor do i condone anyone who does*

Row

If i had a 2007 C Class cdi i would'nt put kerosene in the tank....:eek:
Your high pressure pump would be fecked up within a few miles as said above kerosene has very poor lubrication properties......if you were driving an old idi diesel then you should get away with it...Thats untill your meet the customs...:eek:

Carb

I guess it wouldn't be a great car to pick up second hand then.

I'm surprised that it works at all. I live on the border and I'm used to seeing vans and 4 x 4s pulled up at pumps they shouldn't be at, but its the first time I've seen a car at the kerosene pump.

working fool

It's illegal allright
The older diesels will run on it .
I know people that mix it with 2 stroke oil to luberacate the system .
Terrable people alltogether .

Matt Simis

Kerosene burns hotter than diesel, lubricates slightly worse and atomises better.
Generally car will feel more powerful and responsive on Kero. The lack of lubrication can be offset with Veg Oil (<5%) or other lubrication.

Is illegal as no mineral oil duty is paid on it. Its also dyed Red for detection. Dont think we have clear Kero in ROI?

Mycroft H

Yep it runs hotter. I have put a 1:4 mix of kero in some cars to pass emissions for the nct

Carb

Matt wrote:

Is illegal as no mineral oil duty is paid on it. Its also dyed Red for detection. Dont think we have clear Kero in ROI?

Does this mean the clear kero up north is not easily detected.

Matt Simis

Carb wrote: »

Does this mean the clear kero up north is not easily detected.

I dont know what the modern dipping techniques here are (maybe just colour based) so maybe, yeah, should be better on the detection front.
I never quite understood why we dye our Kero, most regions dont. Infact the dye itself causes problems in some Oil burners (ie not cars afaik). Even more confusingly we dye our Kero Red, like the UK does its Agri diesel and we dye our Agri Diesel Green. So having Kero in your car would look the same as driving around on Northern Irish Agri diesel, not ROI Agri Diesel. How the fuzz deals with this has always been confusing (as you havent evaded Irish tax, no more than simply buying regular diesel in the North).


All that aside, my understanding is Kerosene is a cleaner and better fuel thats most costly (pre-tax) than diesel.

Celly Smunt

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