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  • 04-12-2011 10:09am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭


    And he had only just been made Taoiseach:

    http://www.newstalk.ie/2011/news/taoiseach-breaches-pay-cap-to-give-his-former-advisor-a-35000-euro-pay-hike/

    It’s emerged the Taoiseach ordered the Department of Finance to bend the rules on pay rates for advisors so that his former advisor Ciaran Conlon could be awarded a pay increase of 35 thousand euros.

    According to information obtained by the Mail on Sunday, Enda Kenny made this order last March, when he was elected Taoiseach.

    He wrote to the Secretary General at the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform and asked that the Government’s self imposed salary cap of 92,000 euros per year, be breached, so that his former advisor of eight years, Ciaran Conlon, be given a new annual salary of 127 thousand euros.

    At this time, both the Finance Minister Michael Noonan and the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform, Brendan Howlin, argued that the 35,000 pay increase for Mr. Conlon was not merited.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    Complete hypocrite, but then he is a politician.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,257 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    It's nice to know he's on a mission to get people out of the poverty trap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,068 ✭✭✭yermandan


    Nothing surprises me when I hear about this type of thing anymore. Also its so difficult to know what to believe. The media are as corrupt as those they report on


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    and you're actually suprised?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    yermandan wrote: »
    Nothing surprises me when I hear about this type of thing anymore. Also its so difficult to know what to believe. The media are as corrupt as those they report on

    Well, let's see if Enda rushes to deny it.;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    Starla_o0 wrote: »
    and you're actually suprised?

    Yes, actually. For all the moral high ground they occupied in the run-up to the election, they're no different, apparently, to FF. Cronyism at its worst.

    And no-balls Labour, for all their waffle, should have threatened to withdraw from the Government, but imagine the personal cost. Couldn't have that now, could we?:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,975 ✭✭✭W.Shakes-Beer


    Hmmm.... and he'll be oh so awfully morbid and somber during tonights pre budget state update.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    I am surprised that people are surprised when they find that Fine Gael are just more of the same. When are people going to wake up to the fact that nothing will change for the ordainary people of this country until we elect people with a backbone and no obligations to their cronies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    Kasabian wrote: »
    I am surprised that people are surprised when they find that Fine Gael are just more of the same. When are people going to wake up to the fact that nothing will change for the ordainary people of this country until we elect people with a backbone and no obligations to their cronies.

    But who ARE these people?:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,485 ✭✭✭Thrill


    This will give his "We'll all be taking it up the ass together" speech a greater air of hypocrisy than it was going have.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    One more u-turn amid many he has done.
    I see him as nothing as more than now, a pure liar and double-crossing two faced traitor.
    Gilmore and Labour are going to get pulled down along with him.

    No wonder some polls show a sickening resurgence for FF.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭CamperMan


    it's about time the Germans stopped the money to Ireland until these @arseholes take a massive cut in pay...

    since the big bailout, all I have seen is increased pay and pensions for the government


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    Biggins wrote: »
    One more u-turn amid many he has done.
    I see him as nothing as more than now, a pure liar and double-crossing two faced traitor.
    Gilmore and Labour are going to get pulled down along with him.

    No wonder some polls show a sickening resurgence for FF.

    Scary isn't it. Will the forgetful forgive at the next election which may happen a lot sooner than we think if Labour back bencher's decide to return to their Labour principles (:pac:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    Thrill wrote: »
    This will give his "We'll all be taking it up the ass together" speech a greater air of hypocrisy than it was going have.

    I will have a bucket by my side, this is going to be the most disgusting speech ever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    Kasabian wrote: »
    I will have a bucket by my side, this is going to be the most disgusting speech ever.

    So true. There is no hope for this country as it stands. If that man had a shred of decency about him he would cancel that speech.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    Freddie59 wrote: »
    So true. There is no hope for this country as it stands. If that man had a shred of decency about him he would cancel that speech.

    The spin will be in place before the speech. He is becoming astute at it.

    To me he is just a liar, as is Gilmore, a man I thought was principled.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    Kasabian wrote: »
    The spin will be in place before the speech. He is becoming astute at it.

    To me he is just a liar, as is Gilmore, a man I thought was principled.

    All I can think of is "power corrupts".


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    ...And he will say words tonight to the effect, we must tighten our belts!

    George Orwell had it down to a tee!

    "All animals are equal
    ...But some are more equal than others!"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    The speech will all be around "the mess they were left with". This is becoming the signature tune of this Government, never followed by the remotest comment on what they are doing to fix it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭gigino


    CamperMan wrote: »
    it's about time the Germans stopped the money to Ireland until these @arseholes take a massive cut in pay...

    since the big bailout, all I have seen is increased pay and pensions for the government
    + the public sector, still paid + pension so much more than both the private sector + public sectors elsewhere.
    Nothing pisses off Jan the policeman in Frankfurt more than seeing Joseph the Guard in Foxford getting paid double what they are.....oh, and retiring with a golden pension before they are 50.

    not to mention our countless politicians, ambassadors, government advisors, td's, senators, retired ministers, retired taoiseach etc in our little country ( the size of a city in UK or Continent ) all being paid way too much.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    gigino wrote: »
    + the public sector, still paid + pension so much more than both the private sector + public sectors elsewhere.
    Nothing pisses off Jan the policeman in Frankfurt more than seeing Joseph the Guard in Foxford getting paid double what they are.....oh, and retiring with a golden pension before they are 50.

    not to mention our countless politicians, ambassadors, government advisors, td's, senators, retired ministers, retired taoiseach etc in our little country ( the size of a city in UK or Continent ) all being paid way too much.

    And don't forget the overbloated RTE.;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    The gravy train gets gravier


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    ilovesleep wrote: »
    The gravy train gets gravier

    Oh yeah!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    FcukwitF@ggotss were in power and they ran the place into the ground for their own greedy gains and benefits by:
    Buying the nation with giveaway budgets
    Loosening banking regulation

    Unfortunately many, many people walked blindly into this mess and woke up too late as to what it all meant.
    (but even if FG were in power we'd be in the exact same mess, clearly, as we can see here).

    I had faith in FG and labour. But it is clear that they are only in power to keep their own pockets full at the expense of everyone else living on this land. We're on the brink of a default and all they care about are their own fcuking pockets while passing the blame to the lazy unemployed, the whorey single mothers, the special needs children who need extra care in a class, the motorists (all of them) for their wreckless driving (tax them off the roads).

    :-(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭Lawrence1895


    [QUOTE=Kasabian;75814972]I am surprised that people are surprised when they find that Fine Gael are just more of the same. When are people going to wake up to the fact that nothing will change for the ordainary people of this country until we elect people with a backbone and no obligations to their cronies.[/QUOTE]

    Did nobody warn them? Did they just have blind faith, instead of reading the small print?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    Freddie59 wrote: »
    All I can think of is "power corrupts".


    Its the fear of losing power that really corrupts..!!! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Freddie59 wrote: »
    And he had only just been made Taoiseach:

    http://www.newstalk.ie/2011/news/taoiseach-breaches-pay-cap-to-give-his-former-advisor-a-35000-euro-pay-hike/

    It’s emerged the Taoiseach ordered the Department of Finance to bend the rules on pay rates for advisors so that his former advisor Ciaran Conlon could be awarded a pay increase of 35 thousand euros.

    According to information obtained by the Mail on Sunday, Enda Kenny made this order last March, when he was elected Taoiseach.

    He wrote to the Secretary General at the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform and asked that the Government’s self imposed salary cap of 92,000 euros per year, be breached, so that his former advisor of eight years, Ciaran Conlon, be given a new annual salary of 127 thousand euros.

    At this time, both the Finance Minister Michael Noonan and the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform, Brendan Howlin, argued that the 35,000 pay increase for Mr. Conlon was not merited.
    I'm fucking with you on this one, Freddie. It's just a different side of the same coin with this crowd and I've been saying that for years.

    I still can't bring myself to thank your post though - I've got to look my kids in the face tomorrow morning.;)


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