Toners Pub

mattjack · 04-12-2011 9:35am #1

Has anyone ever heard of a Pub called Toners in the Kevin Street area , Dublin 8 ?

HeidiHeidi · 04-12-2011 9:39am

There was the Tenters in Blackpitts? But it's closed now AFAIK. Presume it's not Toner's on Baggot Street you're referring to?

mattjack · 04-12-2011 9:44am

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

There was the Tenters in Blackpitts? But it's closed now AFAIK. Presume it's not Toner's on Baggot Street you're referring to?

Thanks Heidi, I know the Tenters ...its tefinitely Toners Kevin street.my Mother lived above it..just trying to get a little info bout it.

Thanks again . MJ

HeidiHeidi · 04-12-2011 9:53am

There's a fella I work with who's a veritable walking encyclopaedia of that area - I'll ask him and get back to you if he has any info.

mattjack · 04-12-2011 9:56am

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

There's a fella I work with who's a veritable walking encyclopaedia of that area - I'll ask him and get back to you if he has any info.

Thanks

A Disgrace · 04-12-2011 1:22pm

There's very little left of Kevin Street since they widened the road and built the flats, so if it was there, it's long gone I'm afraid

mattjack · 04-12-2011 1:29pm

A Disgrace wrote: »

There's very little left of Kevin Street since they widened the road and built the flats, so if it was there, it's long gone I'm afraid

Thanks, I know its long gone...I,m just looking for any info. on it or even an online picture.

Thanks again MJ

HeidiHeidi · 04-12-2011 3:22pm

It's been suggested to me that there may have been a pub - not actually called Toners, but maybe known as that? - somewhere on Cork Street, possibly at the junction of Donore Avenue or Ormond Street - somewhere on the left as you travel out of town anyhow. This would've been before the street was widened - all those junctions are apartment blocks now.

I'll keep asking!

mattjack · 04-12-2011 4:50pm

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

It's been suggested to me that there may have been a pub - not actually called Toners, but maybe known as that? - somewhere on Cork Street, possibly at the junction of Donore Avenue or Ormond Street - somewhere on the left as you travel out of town anyhow. This would've been before the street was widened - all those junctions are apartment blocks now.

I'll keep asking!

Thanks again Heidi...
would you believe I actually work in Cork st, I know both those junctions very well.Its definitely Kevin St. she was born in.She can remember the Toner brothers I,m just after more info. or even a pic. Are you from the area ?

Thanks MJ

bluefinger · 04-12-2011 6:07pm

From memory of about 20 years ago there were four pubs on each corner of the junction of patrick street, new street, dean street and kevin street. someone once told me they were called the four corners of hell. nashes is the only one left now, and this one was completely rebuilt a few years back.

mattjack · 04-12-2011 6:10pm

bluefinger wrote: »

From memory of about 20 years ago there were four pubs on each corner of the junction of patrick street, new street, dean street and kevin street. someone once told me they were called the four corners of hell. nashes is the only one left now, and this one was completely rebuilt a few years back.

thanks Bluefinger , thats the area.

MJ

stovelid · 04-12-2011 6:13pm

bluefinger wrote: »

From memory of about 20 years ago there were four pubs on each corner of the junction of patrick street, new street, dean street and kevin street. someone once told me they were called the four corners of hell. nashes is the only one left now, and this one was completely rebuilt a few years back.

The one on New Street was the New Inn I think.

A Disgrace · 04-12-2011 8:48pm

The guys over on the Dublin.ie forums probably have a photo of this crossroads somewhere, I tired searching but it's down at the moment... Let us know if you come across it!

mattjack · 04-12-2011 9:02pm

Thanks for all the replies ...The Four Corners of Hell..... Impressive place to say your from..:o

No1J · 04-12-2011 10:09pm

As you came down Patrick street towards Kevin street the small one on the Junction on the left was either TJs or JTs, Toners?

HeidiHeidi · 04-12-2011 10:20pm

No1J wrote: »

As you came down Patrick street towards Kevin street the small one on the Junction on the left was either TJs or JTs, Toners?

Is/was that one not Nash's?

Agree that the New Inn was across the way, but don't remember the other two.....I'll have to consult my sources again!

No1J · 04-12-2011 10:32pm

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Is/was that one not Nash's?

Agree that the New Inn was across the way, but don't remember the other two.....I'll have to consult my sources again!

Just looked at Google maps, yes it is Nash's but about 15 years before, it was what I had said, I think.

mattjack · 04-12-2011 10:34pm

No1J wrote: »

Just looked at Google maps, yes it is Nash's but about 15 years before, it was what I had said, I think.

So, before Nash's , Toners was in that position ?

No1J · 04-12-2011 10:42pm

mattjack wrote: »

So, before Nash's , Toners was in that position ?

Like I said not sure whether it was TJs or JTs, always remember the auld lads would sit on stools outside in the summer watching the traffic.
It was about the same size as the confession box on Marlbrough st.

mattjack · 04-12-2011 10:45pm

No1J wrote: »

Like I said not sure whether it was TJs or JTs, always remember the auld lads would sit on stools outside in the summer watching the traffic.
It was about the same size as the confession box on Marlbrough st.

Thanks ...my mother was born and lived above Toners....

No1J · 04-12-2011 10:47pm

mattjack wrote: »

Thanks ...my mother was born and lived above Toners....

Calling Gavin "Shels", the man knows the area, if he dosen't come back soon PM him.

bluefinger · 05-12-2011 9:26am

Nashes used to be called TJ Nashes. I think, Quinns was also on one of the corners, with the New Inn on the other side, i think that Toners could have been were chartbusters was/is now?

HeidiHeidi · 06-12-2011 4:39pm

Latest report from my source says that there was no Toner's pub in that area. There was a family of Toners, who had a big haulage firm (behind Guinness's somewhere) and one of those may possibly have had an interest in The Brewery Bar on Newport Street. Not saying the other posters are wrong, but these guys are around the area for a long, long time!

A Disgrace · 06-12-2011 5:05pm

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Latest report from my source says that there was no Toner's pub in that area. There was a family of Toners, who had a big haulage firm (behind Guinness's somewhere) and one of those may possibly have had an interest in The Brewery Bar on Newport Street. Not saying the other posters are wrong, but these guys are around the area for a long, long time!

There's a mention of it here, and some other posts in some of the photo threads on Dublin.ie

Zaharof · 08-12-2011 11:52am

Another (fun) way to the info would be to find a crusty looking pub around the liberties with auld lads in it on a Saturday afternoon, nearly guarantee by the time you downed your first delicious pint you will have found out what Mr. Tonner had for breakfast in March 1950

HeidiHeidi · 08-12-2011 2:39pm

A Disgrace wrote: »

There's a mention of it here, and some other posts in some of the photo threads on Dublin.ie

Oops, looks like I'm going to have to find me some new sources....

Couldn't find the "arts and culture" thread on that site that has the pictures - anyone able to provide a link?

mattjack · 08-12-2011 3:04pm

THANKS for the persistence folks

A Disgrace · 08-12-2011 4:48pm

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Oops, looks like I'm going to have to find me some new sources....

Couldn't find the "arts and culture" thread on that site that has the pictures - anyone able to provide a link?

Try here and ask around, somebody there will have all the info you need

niallb · 08-12-2011 5:46pm

No1J wrote: »

Like I said not sure whether it was TJs or JTs, always remember the auld lads would sit on stools outside in the summer watching the traffic.
It was about the same size as the confession box on Marlbrough st.

I'm pretty certain that at least by 1986, that was TP's rather than TJ's.

SillyMcCarthy · 08-12-2011 5:57pm

Not too sure of what Baggot Street it's on but it's on one
of them. I think it's Lwr! Had a few pints in there before
a game in the Aviva & a fine pint it was too.

They shot a scene from 'A Fist Full Of Dynamite'
in there & it still looks the very same!

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No1J · 09-12-2011 8:24pm

bluefinger wrote: »

From memory of about 20 years ago there were four pubs on each corner of the junction of patrick street, new street, dean street and kevin street. someone once told me they were called the four corners of hell. nashes is the only one left now, and this one was completely rebuilt a few years back.

Asked about the 4 corners on Dublin.ie and a couple of replies have come back.
One was that the Wife's of the men drinking there called it that the men couldn't go past it or the wif's couldn't get the men out of the pubs.
Another was that at closing time the lads from one pub would bump into ones from one of the others and all hell would break out.

As for the name Toners, nothing concrete yet.

mattjack · 09-12-2011 8:30pm

No1J wrote: »

Asked about the 4 corners on Dublin.ie and a couple of replies have come back.
One was that the Wife's of the men drinking there called it that the men couldn't go past it or the wif's couldn't get the men out of the pubs.
Another was that at closing time the lads from one pub would bump into ones from one of the others and all hell would break out.

As for the name Toners, nothing concrete yet.

My mother says she was born and lived above Toners..:) maybe she's losing it a bit

No1J · 09-12-2011 8:49pm

mattjack wrote: »

My mother says she was born and lived above Toners..:) maybe she's losing it a bit

I lived in Toners myself back in the early 80s from 5pm-11pm but that was Baggot st.

HeidiHeidi · 09-12-2011 8:59pm

No1J wrote: »

I lived in Toners myself back in the early 80s from 5pm-11pm but that was Baggot st.

I think there's probably quite a few of us could claim that.... happy days:D

No1J · 09-12-2011 9:41pm

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

I think there's probably quite a few of us could claim that.... happy days:D

Yeah, great pub back in the day, wouldn't think there are too many on here that would have pulled up a stool in 1980 (in school uniform for a pint and a sandwitch) at lunch time.:D

Gavin "shels" · 24-12-2011 3:43am

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

There was the Tenters in Blackpitts? But it's closed now AFAIK. Presume it's not Toner's on Baggot Street you're referring to?

The Tenters is closed a good while now, plans for it to be demolished along with the rest of that part (which is gone) and apartments there but that's down the drain.

bluefinger wrote: »

From memory of about 20 years ago there were four pubs on each corner of the junction of patrick street, new street, dean street and kevin street. someone once told me they were called the four corners of hell. nashes is the only one left now, and this one was completely rebuilt a few years back.

Lowes, Nashs, D O'Beirne were 3 of the 4 pubs on the Four Corners Of Hell, then you had Captains Bar (Fallons) on the junction with New Row South. Toners wasn't one of those Four Corners of Hell pubs unless it was pre the others.

No1J wrote: »

Calling Gavin "Shels", the man knows the area, if he dosen't come back soon PM him.

:cool:

mattjack wrote: »

My mother says she was born and lived above Toners..:) maybe she's losing it a bit

Only seen your reply to me on AH there, should have PM"ed" me. I asked my mother (who's lived in The Tenters all 50 years of her life) and she doesn't recall a Toners, I'll try get some info for you though.

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