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Hybrid.

  • 02-12-2011 12:23am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭


    Lads,

    I hit a very good 4 iron.

    Like the idea of trying a hybrid.

    What advantage do they have and what make would people say is the best one.

    I play Mizuno,


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭stockdam


    I hit my hybrid higher and softer than my 4 iron. I can move it left or right easier. I can hit it better from a tight lie. However I do have to watch if the ball is sitting up in the rough.

    Best hybid? No such thing but if you play Mizuno then why not stick with them. I like the Taylormade hybrids but that's a personal decision.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Mr. Larson


    Lads,

    I hit a very good 4 iron,

    Me too - and Id hit the 4 iron off the tee or to a small target over the hybrid 8 days a week. Somehow I'm more likely to hit a bad pull hook with the hybrid.

    But put me in the rough and I'll never get it more than 40 yes with a 4 iron. Hybrid 8 days a week there. But that could be just me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 233 ✭✭DEVOTION


    Yeah, Hybrid from the rough works nicely for me. I also use it off the tee for long par 3's.

    I'm using the Cleveland Mashie and can't recommend it highly enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    DEVOTION wrote: »
    Yeah, Hybrid from the rough works nicely for me. I also use it off the tee for long par 3's.

    I'm using the Cleveland Mashie and can't recommend it highly enough.

    What distance does it go versus your say 4 iron ?

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,939 ✭✭✭Russman


    That will depend on the loft of the hybrid.
    FWIW I use a 21deg Taylor Made one that goes a lot further than my 4 iron, almost as far as my 5 wood.
    At that end of the bag I use driver, 3w, 5w, 21deg, 4 iron......etc.
    Sometime swapping out the 5w for an extra wedge depending on my mood.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭bustercherry


    If you really have to ask these questions on a forum, rather than knowing your own swing and being able to judge for yourself; I doubt very much you hit a good 4 iron but we'll give you the benefit of the doubt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭Kid Charlemagne


    decent lookin mizuno hybrid goin for 70 squids in h/penny now.
    go n buy it to f***!


    NO affiliation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    If you really have to ask these questions on a forum, rather than knowing your own swing and being able to judge for yourself; I doubt very much you hit a good 4 iron but we'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

    Don't worry with a bit of practice you will be able to hit a 4 iron like me. Maybe not.

    Strange, what else would you be asking on a golf forum. :rolleyes:

    Wanted to see what distance a hybrid goes v a 4 iron.
    Maybe you don't understand golf yourself and are trying to be smart and failing.


    Anyway keep up the practice and look at the few ads in Golf World. Also, you would not want to give yourself the benefit of the doubt too much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭colmsix


    3,4 iron gone from the bag since the start of the year, got a taylor made rescue 11, 21 degree adjusted to 22 degree, goes a good bit futher that my 3,4 iron which i tended to cut alot . now it goes very staight and high but does not run out which is good and bad. i will not be putting the 3,4 irons back in my bag for a long while. worth the money imo.good luck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,016 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    I switched to a hybrid 4 iron about a year ago and its now my favourite club.
    It goes slightly further than my 4 iron (as its a proper 4 iron not like the strenghtened irons nowadays) ,higher trajectory and stops faster.
    Its like hitting a 7 iron to me in terms of difficulty ,i.e there is none.
    I am going to replace my 3 iron with a hybrid before the start of the golfing season ,although there is nothing sweeter than hitting a flush 3 iron.


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  • Subscribers Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭PhilipMarlowe


    Hybrid is much easier to hit in truth. All the points have been covered already but they really shine out of semi-rough IMO where getting a quality strike is difficult from a long iron. When the rough is a bit fluffy and the ball is sitting up well I'd tend to take the iron because the hybrid can pop one up by slipping under (problem is with the indian, I know...).
    The ball flies higher and lands softer. If you're a coastal player then the long iron might be more useful.
    Great for little bump and run shots from just off the green... much more like a putt than a chip so better results when the time is right (plenty of run out).
    Flies higher & has more ability to turn the ball over which is mostly a cause for concern because that wasn't on the menu...

    Distance wise, my TM burner is stamped a 4 and I think it similar distance to my 3 iron but with a different flight. I also have a TM 3 and it goes a bit further but not all that much.
    Summer time I would have the two hybrids and winter I'd make up with the 3 iron and leave out the stronger hybrid, keep the 4 hybrid for getting out of trouble scenarios.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    Zardoz wrote: »
    ,although there is nothing sweeter than hitting a flush 3 iron.

    Says it all really, my next set of irons will have a 2 iron in addition to the 3 iron.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 652 ✭✭✭stringy


    Don't worry with a bit of practice you will be able to hit a 4 iron like me. Maybe not.

    Strange, what else would you be asking on a golf forum. :rolleyes:

    Wanted to see what distance a hybrid goes v a 4 iron.
    Maybe you don't understand golf yourself and are trying to be smart and failing.


    Anyway keep up the practice and look at the few ads in Golf World. Also, you would not want to give yourself the benefit of the doubt too much.

    Hmmm, I don't think you understand golf or equipment very much. A hybrid isn't just one club, so it doesn't go one set distance. It depends on the loft. If you get a 23* hybrid, that will go the same distance as a 4 iron. If you get an 18* hybrid that will got the same distance as a 2 iron. So for example, me personally, I hit my 18* about 210-230 on average, depending on conditions (winter/summer, wind etc). So my advice is get the hybrid with the same loft as the iron you are hoping to replace, otherwise you'll have an imbalanced set of clubs.

    To answer your original question. Advantages are, they are more forgiving, they generally hit the ball higher than the equivalent iron. Buy whatever brand you like the look/feel off. Most high end branded clubs are as good an one another, and are only as good as the golfer using it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    stringy wrote: »
    Hmmm, I don't think you understand golf or equipment very much. A hybrid isn't just one club, so it doesn't go one set distance. It depends on the loft. If you get a 23* hybrid, that will go the same distance as a 4 iron. If you get an 18* hybrid that will got the same distance as a 2 iron. So for example, me personally, I hit my 18* about 210-230 on average, depending on conditions (winter/summer, wind etc). So my advice is get the hybrid with the same loft as the iron you are hoping to replace, otherwise you'll have an imbalanced set of clubs.

    To answer your original question. Advantages are, they are more forgiving, they generally hit the ball higher than the equivalent iron. Buy whatever brand you like the look/feel off. Most high end branded clubs are as good an one another, and are only as good as the golfer using it.


    HMMM, didn't claim too, that is why I asked and HMMMMMMM that is why you answered , HMMMMMM imagine that. Thank You, HMMMMMMMM

    I know now Thanks.

    I may not understand Golf, but I hit a 4 iron longer than any of your Hybrid- ies.

    I hit a 4 iron 240 yrds at 9oC. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. My Hmmmms are longer too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 652 ✭✭✭stringy


    HMMM, didn't claim too, that is why I asked and HMMMMMMM that is why you answered , HMMMMMM imagine that. Thank You, HMMMMMMMM

    I know now Thanks.

    I may not understand Golf, but I hit a 4 iron longer than any of your Hybrid- ies.

    I hit a 4 iron 240 yrds at 9oC. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. My Hmmmms are longer too.

    You're sound.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 869 ✭✭✭Osgoodisgood


    I carry 2 hybrids. 16 degree that replaces a 2 iron and a 20 degree which replaced my 3 iron. There are a couple of drawbacks for me with the hybrid technology, a tendency to balloon into the wind and a tendency to promote a right to left flight due to the heavy head and short shaft. However weighed against the versatility that they offer off the tee, from light to heavyish rough, ability to stop them quickly etc I think it's a trade-off worth making.

    (FWIW T. Woods carrys his 3 iron 230 yards. Some of you guys are long!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    stringy wrote: »
    You're sound.

    You were the one with the Hmmm and saying I know nothing about golf.
    Don't give Hmmm if you can't take thehmmmmm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    I carry 2 hybrids. 16 degree that replaces a 2 iron and a 20 degree which replaced my 3 iron. There are a couple of drawbacks for me with the hybrid technology, a tendency to balloon into the wind and a tendency to promote a right to left flight due to the heavy head and short shaft. However weighed against the versatility that they offer off the tee, from light to heavyish rough, ability to stop them quickly etc I think it's a trade-off worth making.

    (FWIW T. Woods carrys his 3 iron 230 yards. Some of you guys are long!)

    the 230 yrds is carry , are you saying Tiger woods can't hit the ball 240 yrds with a 3 iron ?

    I'd say he could hit it with a 5 iron if he wanted to.

    Anyway , i have a small manhood too.

    Thanks for your post, good info on ballooning and right to left flight .

    But i am long , yes, :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,886 ✭✭✭WHIP IT!



    (FWIW T. Woods carrys his 3 iron 230 yards. Some of you guys are long bullsh*tting!)

    FYP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Benny Cake



    I hit a 4 iron 240 yrds at 9oC.

    No, no you didn't.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 869 ✭✭✭Osgoodisgood


    the 230 yrds is carry , are you saying Tiger woods can't hit the ball 240 yrds with a 3 iron ?

    No, I'm saying he doesn't
    I'd say he could hit it with a 5 iron if he wanted to.
    Possibly, but I'm guessing that there's a reason why he doesn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭rafared


    I hit a 4 iron 240 yrds at 9oC. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. My Hmmmms are longer too.[/QUOTE]

    Not being a smart arse here but if you hit a 4 iron that long what do you want a hybrid for? Thats more than most pro's hit it.
    I can say for sure that most people who have answered you dont hit their drivers that far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Ok ,

    St Annes 1st hole is 519 yrds, I hit two 4 irons to the edge of the green last week, still day.

    Ok , if people don't believe me,

    I'm sorry I hit the ball so far.

    Maybe I don't need one, but I was thinking if I hit it straight, I could hit it further and get rid of the driver ?

    Best of luck anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Benny Cake


    Ok ,

    St Annes 1st hole is 519 yrds, I hit two 4 irons to the edge of the green last week, still day.

    Ok , if people don't believe me,

    I'm sorry I hit the ball so far.

    Maybe I don't need one, but I was thinking if I hit it straight, I could hit it further and get rid of the driver ?

    Best of luck anyway.

    You cant blame people for not believing you, the following link shows Mcilroys distances per club: http://www.golfdigest.com/golf-equipment/whats-in-my-bag/2009-11/my_golfbag_rory_mcilroy
    This puts you hitting the 4-iron 30 yards further than Mcilroy...

    While I'm at it, if you hit your 4 iron 240 yards (I'll convert to meters as thats what I use myself) thats 220 meters. If you extrapolate out these figures, allowing 10 meters on average between clubs, your distances would equate as follows:

    4i 220
    5i 210
    6i 200
    7i 190
    8i 180
    9i 170
    PW 160
    GW 150
    SW 140
    LW 130

    By this logic, you're hitting a Wedge from the 150 meter marker, I can genuinely say I've never seen anybody use a gap wedge from 150m. Maybe you're hitting the ball as far as you say but its easy to see why people would be skeptical...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59 ✭✭Nerdstrom


    Ok ,

    St Annes 1st hole is 519 yrds, I hit two 4 irons to the edge of the green last week, still day.

    Ok , if people don't believe me,

    I'm sorry I hit the ball so far.

    Maybe I don't need one, but I was thinking if I hit it straight, I could hit it further and get rid of the driver ?

    Best of luck anyway.

    Better off hitting Driver 9iron in that case. Eagles are nice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Nerdstrom wrote: »
    Better off hitting Driver 9iron in that case. Eagles are nice

    Can't hit a drive to save my life at moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭n2o


    If you had a 3 wood and a 20 degree hybrid in the bag would you bother with a 5 wood? The different ball flight between hybrid and iron has been mentioned above but how does it compare to the fairway wood?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Benny Cake wrote: »
    You cant blame people for not believing you, the following link shows Mcilroys distances per club: http://www.golfdigest.com/golf-equipment/whats-in-my-bag/2009-11/my_golfbag_rory_mcilroy
    This puts you hitting the 4-iron 30 yards further than Mcilroy...

    While I'm at it, if you hit your 4 iron 240 yards (I'll convert to meters as thats what I use myself) thats 220 meters. If you extrapolate out these figures, allowing 10 meters on average between clubs, your distances would equate as follows:

    4i 220
    5i 210
    6i 200
    7i 190
    8i 180
    9i 170
    PW 160
    GW 150
    SW 140
    LW 130

    By this logic, you're hitting a Wedge from the 150 meter marker, I can genuinely say I've never seen anybody use a gap wedge from 150m. Maybe you're hitting the ball as far as you say but its easy to see why people would be skeptical...

    Lot of things at play here, lying is not.

    Did go just off the par 5, In science you may have the theory , but you should look at the results.

    I'm not talking carry,
    I hit the ball too low, get good roll
    I'm using JPX 800, the ball goes very far with them
    The loft is wrong for marketing reasons I'd say, so I'm hitting a 3 iron or less in reality.
    I'm hitting the ball too hard, need to keep within myself.
    I'm not playing a tour ball

    I hit my PW 140 yrds. So tend to swing easier with lower clubs.

    Seriouisly lads you would want to hit a JPX 800, they hit the ball way too far, if there is such a thing.


    Comparing me with Rory is a compliment thanks ;)

    Anyway, I hate hitting 4 irons off tees, but trying to score so doing it. But by the time i get to the 6 or 7 I take out a driver and 50/50.

    Sorry , this is not about me, just wanted views on hybrids, to replace driver.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59 ✭✭Nerdstrom


    Can't hit a drive to save my life at moment.
    :(
    I hit the ball too low
    :(
    I'm hitting the ball too hard
    :(


    Here's a mad idea........

    Golf lessons?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Nerdstrom wrote: »
    :(

    :(

    :(


    Here's a mad idea........

    Golf lessons?

    I'm very stubborn and have never had one, got to 12 Hcap without.

    Will get one, have given in. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,886 ✭✭✭WHIP IT!



    I may not understand Golf, but I hit a 4 iron longer than any of your Hybrid- ies.

    I hit a 4 iron 240 yrds at 9oC. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. My Hmmmms are longer too.

    Alvaro Quiros just hit a 3-iron from 244 yards (in perfect conditions) to the par-five 7th at the Dubai World Championship.... congratulations, you are longer than the most powerful player on the European Tour...

    You're right, you don't understand golf... or metrics!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,370 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Some of you clearly need to go and read the latest sticky on this forum before you post again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    WHIP IT! wrote: »
    Alvaro Quiros just hit a 3-iron from 244 yards (in perfect conditions) to the par-five 7th at the Dubai World Championship.... congratulations, you are longer than the most powerful player on the European Tour...

    You're right, you don't understand golf... or metrics!

    I hear there is a wind (Being a desert), seen one them hit a 5 iron 228 yrds yesterday. Also i'd say the airbourne sand is changing the density and hence the reynolds number for the air and may even change the charicterisitcs of the boundary layer flow.

    http://www.google.ie/imgres?q=boundary+layer&hl=en&sa=X&rlz=1R2RNRN_enIE418&biw=1024&bih=568&tbm=isch&prmd=imvnsbfd&tbnid=RSY8BlJgDrAk8M:&imgrefurl=http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/aerodynamics/q0215.shtml&docid=Sda8qEFbbCfZAM&imgurl=http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/aerodynamics/sports/sphere-flow-comparison.jpg&w=550&h=648&ei=uznjTqzlGc-7hAey2sHZAQ&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=998&sig=108117707908444384872&page=1&tbnh=141&tbnw=120&start=0&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:10,s:0&tx=60&ty=54

    Sorry i hit the ball far again.

    Yes the longest hitter is on the European Tour (NOT).
    Perhaps you did not read the points at play above.

    Non tour ball,
    Clubs,
    Hitting the ball too hard to,
    Ball too far back in stance,
    Closed loft,
    Low flight
    etc, etc.

    Some of the distances that were talked about Rory here are so wrong too, keep an eye on clubs used on Par 3, not just one that suits you.

    I'll report back when I reach that par 5 with two 4 irons again. Don't need metrics to work that out.

    Don't worry , go the gym you can do it too. Maybe not.

    But , I'm playing the game wrong and it is my dream to play within myself and hit a 5 iron 190 one day. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,886 ✭✭✭WHIP IT!


    I hear there is a wind (Being a desert), seen one them hit a 5 iron 228 yrds yesterday. Also i'd say the airbourne sand is changing the density and hence the reynolds number for the air and may even change the charicterisitcs of the boundary layer flow.

    http://www.google.ie/imgres?q=boundary+layer&hl=en&sa=X&rlz=1R2RNRN_enIE418&biw=1024&bih=568&tbm=isch&prmd=imvnsbfd&tbnid=RSY8BlJgDrAk8M:&imgrefurl=http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/aerodynamics/q0215.shtml&docid=Sda8qEFbbCfZAM&imgurl=http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/aerodynamics/sports/sphere-flow-comparison.jpg&w=550&h=648&ei=uznjTqzlGc-7hAey2sHZAQ&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=998&sig=108117707908444384872&page=1&tbnh=141&tbnw=120&start=0&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:10,s:0&tx=60&ty=54

    Sorry i hit the ball far again.

    Yes the longest hitter is on the European Tour (NOT).
    Perhaps you did not read the points at play above.

    Non tour ball,
    Clubs,
    Hitting the ball too hard to,
    Ball too far back in stance,
    Closed loft,
    Low flight
    etc, etc.

    Some of the distances that were talked about Rory here are so wrong too, keep an eye on clubs used on Par 3, not just one that suits you.

    I'll report back when I reach that par 5 with two 4 irons again. Don't need metrics to work that out.

    Don't worry , go the gym you can do it too. Maybe not.

    But , I'm playing the game wrong and it is my dream to play within myself and hit a 5 iron 190 one day. ;)

    You're a wonderful guy...


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