Mass in the Extraordinary Form

The Brigadier

Our parish has just brought in a regular mass on Sundays at 9am in the Extraordinary Form.

My wife and I will be going to this each week. We went on Sunday just gone and were amazed at the difference in how we felt after mass. We had a spring in our step and found it to be a far more prayerful experience.

Anyone else a fan of the EF?

http://marymagdalen.blogspot.com/2011/11/experiment-sunday-ef-mass-at-9am.html

LordSutch

So what exactly is 'Mass in the Extraordinary Form' ?

The Brigadier

It is what some would call the Traditional Latin Mass. It uses the 1962 Missal rather than the Mass of Paul VI which came about after Vatican II.

LordSutch

Probably like to Masses they have in 'St John's Church' at the top of York Road in Dunlaoghaire.
They always do latin Masses there, and have done since the 80s.

The Brigadier

LordSutch wrote: »

Probably like to Masses they have in 'St John's Church' at the top of York Road in Dunlaoghaire.
They always do latin Masses there, and have done since the 80s.

Same mass, but that church is SSPX.

The Society of St. Pius X is a traditionalist organisation. However they are not in commune with the Catholic Church.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_St._Pius_X

The Latin Mass Society lists the churches in Ireland where mass is celebrated in the Extraordinary Form.

http://www.latinmassireland.org/

Propellerhead

The Brigadier wrote: »

Our parish has just brought in a regular mass on Sundays at 9am in the Extraordinary Form.

My wife and I will be going to this each week. We went on Sunday just gone and were amazed at the difference in how we felt after mass. We had a spring in our step and found it to be a far more prayerful experience.

Anyone else a fan of the EF?

http://marymagdalen.blogspot.com/2011/11/experiment-sunday-ef-mass-at-9am.html

Anyone else find that comment about "dissent" to be a bit creepy?

soterpisc

Went to mass in Latin for years. Its the language of the Roman Rite.

Great shame it was banished... good to see it back.

LordSutch

Its a great name though isnt it "Mass in the Extraordinary Form" one would be half expecting Allan Quatermain, Captain Nemo, and the Invisible Man to make an appearance! (excuse the humour) but I still don't get the Extraordinary bit, surely it could just be called "Traditional Mass" Latin Mass, the 'Pre Paul VI' mass, or just the traditional old Mass?

Why is it in Extraordinary form? Which surely means that the new mass is just plain old 'Ordinary'?

I have zero knowledge about the mass, so you'll have to guide me through the terminology.

soterpisc

LordSutch wrote: »

Its a great name though isnt it "Mass in the Extraordinary Form" one would be half expecting Allan Quatermain, Captain Nemo, and the Invisible Man to make an appearance! (excuse the humour) but I still don't get the Extraordinary bit, surely it could just be called "Traditional Mass" Latin Mass, the 'Pre Paul VI' mass, or just the traditional old Mass?

Why is it in Extraordinary form? Which surely means that the new mass is just plain old 'Ordinary'?

I have zero knowledge about the mass, so you'll have to guide me through the terminology.

It took the term once it ceased to be the ordinary mass back on the early 70's

Propellerhead

soterpisc wrote: »

It took the term once it ceased to be the ordinary mass back on the early 70's

The term "Extraordinary form of the Roman Rite" is new and only dates to +++Benedict's Moto Propriu of two years ago. The 1962 Missal was superseded by an interim translation into English in 1965, where the Canon (=Eucharistic Prayer I) remained in Latin and was spoken sotto voce by the Priest. The Mass of Paul VI was promulgated in 1970 and there was a translation into English then that was partially revised in 1973.

Funny enough, it was always easier to get a legitimate 1962 Mass in England than Ireland (along with Communion in both kinds, virtually unknown here) prior to two years ago. St. James Spanish Place in Marylebone was (and still is) a regular provider.

Doc Farrell

I would certainly like to attend another Latin Mass in the near future. Also, attending a rememberance mass and a wedding in Vilnius recently brought to life just how much religious folk suffered under the Soviets.

I also visited the last Synagogue in Vilnius. In 1939 there were 99. There were also 250,000 Jews there before the war. Now there's a couple of thousand. On that Saturday only a handful of people were in the Synagogue. the walls outside are marked with what look like bulletholes.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that we should consider the traditions of the Church as real living treasures while at the same time remember where sectarian egotism and bigotry lead us....

homer911

Propellerhead wrote: »

Anyone else find that comment about "dissent" to be a bit creepy?

I sense "protestants" (small 'p') in the Catholic Church..

The Brigadier

Propellerhead wrote: »

Anyone else find that comment about "dissent" to be a bit creepy?

Not in any way at all.

All he is saying is that some people will just disagree for the sake of it and just saying "I don't like something" doesn't add to a sensible debate on the subject.

Fr. Ray will happily publish comments from all sorts of people holding all sorts of views.

The Brigadier

http://www.latinmass.dublindiocese.ie/drupal/home.html

St. Kevin's on Harrington Street offers mass in the EF every Sunday for anyone interested.

The Brigadier

A video on this worth watching by people...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sToEy7c4mk