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Secret app on phones discovered

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  • #2
    hooradiation
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    Mercurius wrote: »
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/30/smartphone_spying_app/

    This must be how they could hack DSKs' blackberry.

    Having read through it and poked about on my own android device I'm fairly certain that it's currently limited to handsets for US network providers. Specifically Sprint.
    So unless DSK had a blackberry bought in the states, and on that network, then I wouldn't be so sure of that.


  • #3
    Mercurius
    Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭Mercurius


    hooradiation wrote: »
    Having read through it and poked about on my own android device I'm fairly certain that it's currently limited to handsets for US network providers. Specifically Sprint.
    So unless DSK had a blackberry bought in the states, and on that network, then I wouldn't be so sure of that.

    Probably so.

    A timely release today from Wikileaks could provide the answer..

    http://www.ireland.com/news/smartphone-users-screwed-assange/629891


  • #4
    hooradiation
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    Personally, I am unconcerned.


  • #5
    Mercurius
    Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭Mercurius


    hooradiation wrote: »
    Personally, I am unconcerned.

    Personally, I'd always be concerned about invasion of citizens privacy.

    According to Naomi Klein in this article, interesting in it's own right, the protesters are being heavily surveilled. So, there is the potential for this technology being used to surpress freedom.

    The current Leveson enquiry is bountiful evidence of the pain hacking can bring about.

    Industrial espionage is a huge concern in the world right now.

    And the DSK story, with the hacked blackberry being central to recent Sunday Times article, which I'd put up if I could find a link, shows the lengths some leaders, in this case Sarkozy, will go to, in order to perpetrate political subversion.

    But since none of these things concern you, no point bringing them up.


  • #6
    hooradiation
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    Mercurius wrote: »
    Personally, I'd always be concerned about invasion of citizens privacy.

    Assange is known for grandiose statements, i am not going to get worried until i see something more concrete then him proclaiming "you're all screwed".
    Mercurius wrote: »
    According to Naomi Klein in this article, interesting in it's own right, the protesters are being heavily surveilled. So, there is the potential for this technology being used to surpress freedom.

    That's a leap.
    Explain how a group that is illegally squatting being "heavily surveilled" is suppressing freedom, how does this tie into what you actually started talking about?

    And, as a second question are the authorities simply supposed to not pay any heed to the occupy movement? Is there a correct level of being "surveilled" that is acceptable?


    Mercurius wrote: »
    The current Leveson enquiry is bountiful evidence of the pain hacking can bring about.

    The kind of hacking that took place to lead to the Leveson inquiry is very different to the kind being talked about by Assange, so bringing it up is a red herring.

    Mercurius wrote: »
    Industrial espionage is a huge concern in the world right now.

    Industrial espionage has always been a big concern, nothing has changed in that regard.
    Mercurius wrote: »
    And the DSK story, with the hacked blackberry being central to recent Sunday Times article, which I'd put up if I could find a link, shows the lengths some leaders, in this case Sarkozy, will go to, in order to perpetrate political subversion.

    political subversion? I'd ask you to explain but I think you should probably find this article before I entertain this any further.
    Mercurius wrote: »
    But since none of these things concern you, no point bringing them up.

    And yet, here we are.

    Somehow being unconcerned about a statement that "we're all screwed" that has yet to have any kind of substance is a bad thing. Who knew?


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  • #7
    Mercurius
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    hooradiation wrote: »
    Assange is known for grandiose statements, i am not going to get worried until i see something more concrete then him proclaiming "you're all screwed".

    Nor did I need his grandiose statement to explore my own concern when I encountered the article with which I started the thread.


    That's a leap.
    Explain how a group that is illegally squatting being "heavily surveilled" is suppressing freedom, how does this tie into what you actually started talking about?
    The article speaks about the group being surveilled and infiltrated to discover the thrust of the movement, before Homeland Security became involved in simultaneous shutdowns of the various occupy centres.
    And, as a second question are the authorities simply supposed to not pay any heed to the occupy movement? Is there a correct level of being "surveilled" that is acceptable?

    Yes to both questions.

    I could just as easily have picked another country where electronic eavesdropping leads to supression of freedom, but I find what's happening in the States very interesting, even if the eavesdropping link is a little tenuous for this debate.

    The kind of hacking that took place to lead to the Leveson inquiry is very different to the kind being talked about by Assange, so bringing it up is a red herring.

    so, it's only degrees of hacking that don't concern you?

    political subversion? I'd ask you to explain but I think you should probably find this article before I entertain this any further.
    I would have to subscribe to the website to get the article. It was in last Sundays Sunday Times, and is an interesting feature. It seems to point to conspiracy fact rather than theory. I'm sure there'll be more about it in the news.

    And yet, here we are.

    Yes. After expressing your total lack of concern, here you still are.


  • #8
    hooradiation
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    Mercurius wrote: »
    The article speaks about the group being surveilled and infiltrated to discover the thrust of the movement, before Homeland Security became involved in simultaneous shutdowns of the various occupy centres.

    And?
    I am confused here. What, exactly, is the reasoning that a movement on the scale of the occupy should be ignored. That having hundreds of people camping on public property should be simply left to their own devices?

    I understand that people may feel they have a point but I am unsure as to why this then means that they are exempt from either the law or from having any attention paid to them?
    If we accept they are still subject to the laws of the land then they would have to be 'surveilled' simply because how else do you make sure they aren't engaged in illegal activities?
    Likewise, how do you discover their intentions aren't violent? 'surveillance' and
    'infiltration'.
    Mercurius wrote: »
    so, it's only degrees of hacking that don't concern you?

    Like I said, it's irrelevant. The phone "hacking" involved getting into peoples voicemails - this is worlds apart from everything else in the thread.
    Your insistent to the contrary notwithstanding
    Mercurius wrote: »
    I would have to subscribe to the website to get the article. It was in last Sundays Sunday Times, and is an interesting feature. It seems to point to conspiracy fact rather than theory. I'm sure there'll be more about it in the news.

    Well, I'm going to ignore it for now then.
    Mercurius wrote: »
    Yes. After expressing your total lack of concern, here you still are.

    I'm not concerned doesn't mean I'm not interested in the concepts.


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