NCT Penalty Points

jamesdublin12

Hey all,
Did the NCT and it failed on a few things. But cos ive got a jap car, theres a few things to be fixed unemployed and trying to scrape money together to get stuff fixed.
Terrified I get penalty points for no NCT. Do they give out penalty points for no NCT. I heard from may 2009 they do.

I havent heard of anyone getting points for this. Can anyone help, cos im sure the gaurds wont take my poverty into account.

Biscuits16

5 penalty points for no NCT

jamesdublin12

Ye I read that.. but like do they inforce it???? Im afraid to drive the car.

jamesdublin12

Maybe just rebook it.. and carry the letter.. gives me time to get the stuff fixed.. just cos its a jap car.. its expensive and takes a while to come the parts.

Biscuits16

Depends on the Guard TBH, but carry the letter with you to show that you are making an effort.

barura

If you have a retest booked and a letter, you should be able to explain to any garda, failing that, go to court and argue your case in a reasonable manner if worse comes to worse.

In fairness, if you can't afford to fix your car, how are you affording insurance? I assume your car is worth something, perhaps sell it and grab something from bangernomics if no NCT is such a concern?

Hope it works out for you.

jamesdublin12

thats why??/ I have to pay for insurance... so can only afford to get it in bits.. but i havent heard of anyone YET that has got penalty points.. has me sick.. must book tomorrow.

barura

jamesdublin12 wrote: »

thats why??/ I have to pay for insurance... so can only afford to get it in bits.. but i havent heard of anyone YET that has got penalty points.. has me sick.. must book tomorrow.

"It's the risks we take in life that define ourselves."

Or some toss like that.

If you have the NCT booked and it's not to long out of date, you should be okay with most gardai. From personal experience, I drove through 2 checkpoints and was just waved on when I had a car sans NCT. I think tax and insurance are their main concerns, or that's what it was at the time.

It's a chance you have to take, but be reasonable and explain your situation to a gardai if they ask what's the craic with it.

To be honest, if you're unemployeed, why are you running an expensive car? I assume also, that due to it being a jap, you're probably driving a Mitsubishi or Toyota?

I don't know what it is that you do, but if I was unemployeed, I'd be taking a long hard look at my expenses such as my car if I had little or no income.

What is it if you don't mind my asking?

CharlieCroker

As of about 6 weeks ago, AGS now have a power to sieze a car under s.41 RTA for no NCT. if it's not on it, make sure you have the booking letter/email/text with you when driving. Any reasonable guard will accept that you've gone to efforts to get the car tested but if there's anything dangerously wrong, don't drive the car

Biscuits16

Civic no doubt

CharlieCroker

Biscuits16 wrote: »

Civic no doubt

unkel

CharlieCroker wrote: »

As of about 6 weeks ago, AGS now have a power to sieze a car under s.41 RTA for no NCT. if it's not on it, make sure you have the booking letter/email/text with you when driving. Any reasonable guard will accept that you've gone to efforts to get the car tested but if there's anything dangerously wrong, don't drive the car

The voice of reason. In my experience Gardai have always accepted the booking letter and let me on my way.

Don't worry about it, jamesdublin12. But do get the retest booked asap and don't drive the car until you have the booking for the retest printed out and with you at all times. Out of interest, what's the car (make, model, year) and what did it fail on?

jamesdublin12

Well It was a car I bought when I was working. Just lost my job, so nct ran out. After it being tested, I dont have enough time to get the money together to get the little bits fixed..... Will have to get a loan.

cadaliac

jamesdublin12 wrote: »

Well It was a car I bought when I was working. Just lost my job, so nct ran out. After it being tested, I dont have enough time to get the money together to get the little bits fixed..... Will have to get a loan.

Why won't you tell us what type of car it is?

Lets try again....
What type of car is it?

jamesdublin12

Is that relevant??? Its a Honda but its not a civic.
I not selling it... Cos then Id need more money again to buy another car... dont think id get much for it...

cadaliac

Well, what I was getting at was the bits that needed to be fixed. How much they cost and if you can get them here or not.
So, to answer your question, Yes. It is relevant.
Anyway, I assume that you have sourced/costed the parts and know how much it will cost.
BTW, a good buddy has 9 points on his license that he got in one single act.
He was stopped for speeding. He had no valid NCT.
So, he also ignored the first late fine penalty warning and ended up in court for the speeding fine.
So, he received 5 points for no NCT and 4 points for the speeding fine.
9 in one go and 5 of those were for no NCT.

unkel

jamesdublin12 wrote: »

After it being tested, I dont have enough time to get the money together to get the little bits fixed..... Will have to get a loan.

Well in that case, don't drive it until:

1. You have the money to get it fixed
2. You have booked the car in and have printed proof of your booking appointment

Or risk 5 penalty points and a €1,500 fine

Wolverine_1999

No on the spot fine for no NCT.. if they catch you it's straight to court.

Possibility of a fine but it's a definite 5 points.

jamesdublin12

Ye they are more expensive cos have to be inported and thats the delay.... Its a bit of a catch 22. I need to drive, but cant afford to... haha.

****, I never heard of that happening about an NCT. Im just a worrier ya know.. and my luck it wud happen to me.

MarkR

What are the "bits" that are so hard to get? Only time I had to import something was a windscreen for a Toyota Corsa. That isn't a misprint.

dar83

I'm gonna go with an Integra. Either that or a possible CRX.

To be fair the "needs to be imported" part for most parts on those cars wont really fly. At most they will need to be imported from the UK, not Japan. And even that is a stretch as Honda's are quite common here and as such, so are the parts.

I do somewhat like the mystery you seem to like surrounding your issue though. Maybe you can dazzle any Gardaí that pull you over with the same intrigue and mystery. Then make good with your escape.

jamesdublin12

dar83 wrote: »

I'm gonna go with an Integra. Either that or a possible CRX.

To be fair the "needs to be imported" part for most parts on those cars wont really fly. At most they will need to be imported from the UK, not Japan. And even that is a stretch as Honda's are quite common here and as such, so are the parts.

I do somewhat like the mystery you seem to like surrounding your issue though. Maybe you can dazzle any Gardaí that pull you over with the same intrigue and mystery. Then make good with your escape.

Ive to get shocks and stuff. and my handbrake is pulled up too far.

dgt

Euro R Accord?

Once the letter for rebooking is shown, most are sound enough. As said before, tax and insurance are a gardas main point of interest.

My old car had its nct out a while when I got stopped in it (11 months). Garda even gawked at the screen and didnt say anything about it. Car would never have passed again (then illegal tints and "electrical" issues )

BostonB

Do you really need to drive it at the moment?

jamesdublin12

Ye I need to drive at the moment. Like I attend hospital twice a week on the northside.. so no buses get me there from where i live.. its a nightmare.

jamesdublin12

dgt wrote: »

Euro R Accord?

Once the letter for rebooking is shown, most are sound enough. As said before, tax and insurance are a gardas main point of interest.

My old car had its nct out a while when I got stopped in it (11 months). Garda even gawked at the screen and didnt say anything about it. Car would never have passed again (then illegal tints and "electrical" issues )

Was this recent????

I drive a HRV.... I wish i never bought it now.. but i didnt know i was gonna be left with no job in the end. plus the odd time I need it for space.. its great if i need to get anything anywhere.

barura

jamesdublin12 wrote: »

Was this recent????

I drive a HRV.... I wish i never bought it now.. but i didnt know i was gonna be left with no job in the end. plus the odd time I need it for space.. its great if i need to get anything anywhere.

Sorry, all these straws you're clutching at, it's sorta silly. What are you going to do if you get pulled over? "Sorry, these boys and girls on the Internet said it's okay not to have an NCT."

If I were you, I'd pick up something cheap instead of keeping that car running, sounds like it's breaking your bank a iittle. I've said it before, I'll say it again, if you're unemployed you should really watch the cost of things that are breaking your back, which your car seems to be doing.

If you don't want to listen to my advice, fine, your choice, but I am honestly trying to help you out here.

One other note, you can use any car to move stuff if you're determined enough.

Mycroft H

barura wrote: »

Sorry, all these straws you're clutching at, it's sorta silly. What are you going to do if you get pulled over? "Sorry, these boys and girls on the Internet said it's okay not to have an NCT."

If I were you, I'd pick up something cheap instead of keeping that car running, sounds like it's breaking your bank a iittle. I've said it before, I'll say it again, if you're unemployed you should really watch the cost of things that are breaking your back, which your car seems to be doing.

If you don't want to listen to my advice, fine, your choice, but I am honestly trying to help you out here.

One other note, you can use any car to move stuff if you're determined enough.

Exactly.

Cut your losses and buy something small for 500-600 quid.

Here

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2770028

I can guarantee that it will be cheaper to run and insure too. Win win


EDIT

Something with a bit more space

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2750674

barura

I posted that Corolla in the bangernomics thread. :P
Felicia is a cracker if it's all there!

Mycroft H

barura wrote: »

I posted that Corolla in the bangernomics thread. :P
Felicia is a cracker if it's all there!

I nicked it from there :P

Felicia is a very underrated and because of that its often a steal price wise

barura

Similar for the Fabia these days. I wonder what the OP will do.

jamesdublin12

Well as I said will cost me more to buy a new car. just for an NCT>>> then when thats up buy another car.. its not costing me a lot to run. just my nct isup and the repairs are... catch 22... either way im at a loss of money.

challengemaster

Well you're going to end up with a seized car and penalty points then.

barura

jamesdublin12 wrote: »

Well as I said will cost me more to buy a new car. just for an NCT>>> then when thats up buy another car.. its not costing me a lot to run. just my nct isup and the repairs are... catch 22... either way im at a loss of money.

Fair enough, I would seriously be considering penny pinching if I was unemployed, especially regarding my car.

Considering a bangernomics special will cost 650 or thereabouts for something taxed and tested, perhaps you will lose out a bit of money relative to the value of your car currently, but eliminate the potential to lose a LOT of money and any job revolving around a clean license in future.

It's your decision, I'm not really going to be of any more help to you, I feel. You could solve your problem within a week, I would bet, if you sold up your car and picked up another one. But that's me. Maybe I think of stuff too logically. Perhaps you're attached to your car? I'm just trying to help out, is all.

If you want to take the gamble on not having an NCT, it's your call. On the other hand, if you're selling a car and you have the fail sheet that's recent, you are in a much better position than selling a car with the NCT out and no idea of what's wrong with it.