English Open- BJJ

Barry.Oglesby

Tom King got gold in Purple Belt masters. Darragh O'Connail had some silverware hanging around his neck in a photo on facebook but I didn't hear his results. Anyone enlighten me?

Barry

da-bres

darragh gold in division + bronze absolute!!

Barry.Oglesby

Fantastic results for the lads. To put this in context for the non-BJJ guys out there, if I was to draw a BJJ map of the world, England would probably be the 5th or 6th largest country on the map. The English Open is the biggest tournament in England. Excellent results!

Sid_Justice

Adult Ladies Blue Belt Under 58.5kg
Vanessa English Gracie Barra Derby Gold
Kat Gibson RGA Silver
Diosa Atienza BJJ School Bronze

Adult Ladies Blue Belt Under 64kg
Rebecca Hill Gracie Barra Derby Gold
Vikki Todd Raphael Dos Santos Silver
Adriana Gibadulinova Ribiero Jiu Jitsu Bronze

Adult Ladies Blue Belt Absolute
Vanessa English Gracie Barra Derby Gold
Rebecca Hill Gracie Barra Derby Silver
Alison Pugh V N TEAM Bronze

Adult Ladies Purple Belt Under 64kg
Christine McDonagh Gracie Barra Derby Gold
Emma Baker Comabt Academy Hereford Silver

Adult Ladies Purple Belt Under 74kg
Sarah Merriner CGRT Gold
Amora Rodriguea Checkmat Silver

Adult Ladies Purple Belt Absolute
Christine McDonagh Gracie Barra Derby Gold
Sarah Merriner CGRT Silver
Emma Baker Comabt Academy Hereford Bronze

Adult Male Blue Belt Under 64kg
Germaine Gill ICON Gold
James Costa CGRT Silver
Sam Horrell CGRT-C Bronze

Adult Male Blue Belt Under 70kg
Sean Mcdonagh Gracie Barra Derby Gold
Jody Paxman Gracie Barra Victor Estima Silver
Andreas Sangolt Bergen Grappling Bronze

Adult Male Blue Belt Under 76kg
Jack Cronin Mill Hill BJJ Gold
soroosh avazkhani Mill Hill BJJ Silver
Rogerio de Lima RGA Bronze

Adult Male Blue Belt Under 82.3kg
Ricky rout Mill hill bjj Gold
David Hulland Gracie Barra Derby Silver
Georgij Rogolev Paul Bridges Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Bronze

Adult Male Blue Belt Under 88.3kg
Daniel Jetz CGRT-C Gold
Dan Geoghegan Andy Roberts BJJ RGA Silver
lee ambler checkmat/csa Bronze

Adult Male Blue Belt Under 94.3kg
Tomasz Rolinski Gracie Barra Midlands Gold
Adam Kiely De Souza Silver
Ashley Martineaux V N TEAM Bronze

Adult Male Blue Belt Under 100.5kg
David CHAPMAN Gold
Chris Laniyan Arlans Siqueira Bjj Silver

Adult Male Blue Belt Over 100.5kg
stav economou Team Sure Grip Gold
joe davis mma clinic Silver

Masters Male Blue Belt Absolute
David CHAPMAN Gold
Steve Ladley CGRT Silver
Gary Howe CGRT-C Bronze

Masters Male Blue Belt Under 64kg
Greg Mailer RGA Gold
Sean Brown CGRT-C Silver
Ian Reed Icon Jiu Jitsu Bronze

Masters Male Blue Belt Under 70kg
Idan shani Mill Hill BJJ Gold
Andy Law Kamon BJJ Silver
steven morgan CGRT Bronze

Masters Male Blue Belt Under 76kg
Balazs Nagy Mazsahaz BJJ Gold
Adam Larkin The MMA Clinic Silver
jamie atiko RGA Bronze

Masters Male Blue Belt Under 82.3kg
Toby Knight CGRT Gold
Daniel Commane CGRT-C Silver
Richard Pringle Paul Bridges BJJ Bronze

Masters Male Blue Belt Under 88.3kg
Daddy kabuiku Icon bjj Norwih Gold
Steve obe CGRT-C Silver
Bruno Rodriguez Legacy Urban Kings Bronze

Masters Male Blue Belt Under 94.3kg
Michael Allan CGRT-C Gold
Jason BETHELL Silver
simon phillips Raphael Dos Santos Bronze

Masters Male Blue Belt Under 100.5kg
Jason Grant Gold
Steve Ladley CGRT Silver
Paul McCauley Arlans Siqueira BJJ Bronze

Senior Male Blue Belt Under 76kg
mark nixon BJJ Revolution Team Gold
nick raphael RGA Silver

Senior Male Blue Belt Under 76kg
Robert Chapman Checkmat Gold
Steven Fage Ishin Ryu Ju Jitsu Silver
Scott Purnell Pedro Bessa Nine Nine Bronze

Senior Male Blue Belt Under 82.3kg
dougie creed CGRT Gold
Matthew Smith Ataque Duplo Silver
Peter O'Shea CGRT-C Bronze

Senior Male Blue Belt Under 100.5kg
Aldo De Giorgi Gracie Barra Newcastle Gold
Donald Macintyre CGRT-C Silver
mike lockett V N TEAM Bronze

Adult Male Purple Belt Under 70kg
Jordan Summers Alliance Nottingham BJJ Gold
Noel Bartley Pedro Bessa Silver
Daniel Key Checkmat Bronze

Adult Male Purple Belt Under 76kg
Ross Nichols RGA Gold
Sam Gibson CGRT Silver
Adam Watts Checkmat Bronze

Adult Male Purple Belt Under 82.3kg
Viking Wong Legacy Urban Kings Gold
Eivind Windsrygg Bergen Grappling Silver
Chris Jones

Adult Male Purple Belt Under 88.3kg
Nathan Moore-Pointing Pedro Bessa Gold
Conor Flanagan CGRT Silver
Scott ireland CGRT-C Bronze

Adult Male Purple Belt Under 100.5kg
Jason Bell CGRT Gold
Jack Mcdonalds Checkmat Silver
Joshua Palmer CGRT Bronze

Adult Male Purple Belt Over 100.5kg
Chris Cameron MMA Clinic Gold
Russ Hellboy Grant CGRT Silver
Adam Fieldhouse Gracie Barra Southampton Bronze

Master Male Purple Belt Under 64kg
Peter Vilcsek Mazsahaz BJJ Gold
Mark Phung CGRT-C Silver
Enrique Villaseñor Checkmat Bronze

Master Male Purple Belt Under 76kg
Karim Shah CGRT Gold
Maximilano Benica CGRT Silver
mohamed itoumaine icon Bronze

Master Male Purple Belt Under 82.3kg
Tom Bennett CGRT Gold
Victor Abdo Mauricio Gomes Origin BJJ Team Silver
Chad Malley CGRT Bronze

Senior Male Purple Belt Under 70kg
Vince Machado CGRT Gold
Paul Moylett Pedro Bessa Bristol Silver

Adult Male Purple Belt Absolute
Ross Nichols RGA Gold
Viking Wong Legacy Urban Kings Silver
Chad Malley CGRT Bronze
Tom Bennett CGRT Bronze

Adult Male Brown Belt Under 70kg
Paul Cole Gracie Barra Midlands Gold
Mark Stephenson Nova Forca Silver
Alex Slater London Shootfighters Bronze

Adult Male Brown Belt Under 76kg
jack magee mad hatters. gordo jiu jitsu Gold
Dan Ballinger NovaForca Silver

Adult Male Brown Belt Under 82.3kg
Darren Yeoman Raphael dos Santos Gold
Ivan Valderrama BJJ School Silver

Adult Male Brown Belt Under 88.3kg
Jason Tan the MMA Academy Gold
Oliver Geddes RGA Silver
Simon Taylor Mauricio Gomes Origin BJJ Team Bronze

Adult Male Brown Belt Over 100.5kg
Luke Costello Gracie barra birmingham Gold
Henrique Junior (Juniao) RGA Silver

Adult Male Brown Belt Absolute
Luke Costello Gracie barra birmingham Gold
Douglas Mayer Ataque Duplo Silver
Darragh O Conaill Ribeiro Jiu Jitsu Bronze

Adult Male Black Belt Under 76kg
Paul Bridges Paul Bridges Jiu Jitsu Gold
Austin Gardner CGRT Silver

Adult Male Black Belt Under 82.3kg
Leonardo Queiroz Checkmat Gold
Rafael Heck Checkmat BJJ Silver

Adult Male Black Belt Under 88.3kg
Shane Smith Mauricio Gomes Origin BJJ Team Gold
Gary Savage Sukata BJJ Silver

http://www.englishbjjopen.co.uk/8.html

EnjoyChoke

Those results are incomplete.
Darragh won (blitzed) the 82 Brown belt Division and Purple masters 88 is missing.

Barry.Oglesby

Conor and Adriana too! Is Conor still living in England or is he back home?

Well done to all.

Sid_Justice

Conor lives in london yeah

SDTimeout

Awesome results, wouldn't mind seeing a few white belt results when they get posted.

Sid_Justice

http://www.englishbjjopen.co.uk/7.html

i didn't recognise any names

SDTimeout

Sid_Justice wrote: »

http://www.englishbjjopen.co.uk/7.html

i didn't recognise any names

Cheers, youtubed the guys from either division I could compete at. Only found a video of what looks like a closed door MMA event.

David Jones

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EnjoyChoke

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David Jones

The first line of my post is a congratulatory one, if I wanted to have a dig at anyone I would, I certainly dont need boards to do that, and I have kept quiet on threads in the past where I could of spoken my mind but chose the higher ground. Unlike many posters here I do remember it's the Internet and I wouldnt put anything up that I wouldnt say to your face, which in this case is just a question.

Anyway you are right there weren't that many bjj comps in this country when i was starting out and going the uk or further afield etc isnt always an option for those of us with mortgages, pensions, bills, and more than one full time job.

I was asking what happens in a situation where there are too few competitors for a division, and are seniors, masters, adults etc thrown together (which kind of makes those divisions redundant in the first place) and do people think there are too many divisions or options and does the absolute reflect a truer picture? That is all.

EnjoyChoke

David Jones wrote: »

The first line of my post is a congratulatory one, if I wanted to have a dig at anyone I would and I have kept quiet on threads in the past where I could of spoken my mind but chose the higher ground. Unlike many posters here I do remeber it's the Internet and I wouldnt put anything up that I wouldnt say to your face.

Any you are right there weren't that many bjj comps in this country when i was starting out and going the uk or further afield etc isnt always an option for those of us with mortgages, pensions, bills, and more than one full time job.

I was asking what happens in a situation where there are two few competitors for a division and do people think there are too many divisions or options and does the absolute reflect a truer picture? That is all.

If that's the case I apologise for doubting your motives.
For me the purest reflection of your BJJ skills is how you do against a resisting opponent matching your weight and age. In the Abosolute, size, strength and athleticism factor hugely, probably above actual BJJ skill.
Some of us do manage to make comps abroad with mortgages, pensions & bills, but I take your point.

Barry.Oglesby

For my money on this one:

Increasing participation is a good thing. Having masters and senior competitor divisions has certainly done Judo no harm, likewise all the non-combat sports have brackets for seniors etc. I don't see any reason why a 40 year old man starting out in BJJ shouldn't have a division suited to his needs. Likewise a former competitive brown belt should have a division for him to participate in.

Dave I know you've been through the some of the same courses as I have so you'll know the value of retention in sport. Having experienced competitors still involved in your club despite age is not only helpful to younger athletes in the sport, but also increases participation, involvement and the general "buzz" about the sport. We've had many medalists at European level in some of the older divisions in BJJ, which I'm sure inspires the younger fighters at a club to jump in and have a go.

EnjoyChoke

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Barry.Oglesby

EnjoyChoke wrote: »

For my money, three competitors managed to travel from Ireland to compete at this tournament while others sat around worring about what division they should be in.

I'd say they're also worried that they'll be sneered at on the internet if they do compete to be honest. Based on my conversations with both my guys and others from other gyms, the competition circuit isn't seen as somewhere you will be respected, win, lose or draw.

In any case I started this thread as a way of congratulating you guys on your performances, but I won't be doing it again. I'll shake your hand next time I see you instead.

EnjoyChoke

Barry.Oglesby wrote: »

I'd say they're also worried that they'll be sneered at on the internet if they do compete to be honest. Based on my conversations with both my guys and others from other gyms, the competition circuit isn't seen as somewhere you will be respected, win, lose or draw.

In any case I started this thread as a way of congratulating you guys on your performances, but I won't be doing it again. I'll shake your hand next time I see you instead.

Boards.ie is not the competition circuit Barry
I've met few people as respectful as those I met at the last few Opens.
I am sick of the negativity that surfaces here, the grapplepalooza thread was derailed with similar, but in the grand scheme of things, who cares.
I'll continue to compete in any case, anyone who doesn't is missing out.

Killme00

Well done Tom, Darragh and Adriana. Respect

David Jones

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Barry.Oglesby

EnjoyChoke wrote: »

Boards.ie is not the competition circuit Barry
I've met few people as respectful as those I met at the last few Opens.
I am sick of the negativity that surfaces here, the grapplepalooza thread was derailed with similar, but in the grand scheme of things, who cares.
I'll continue to compete in any case, anyone who doesn't is missing out.

Perhaps I should rephrase. The internet post-competition isn't a very respectful place, win, lose, or draw. This puts people off.

Anyway I'll bow out now. I'm only posting here to avoid real work.

EnjoyChoke

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Barry.Oglesby

Dave,

Rugby, a sport I know you also love, has J1, J2, J3 divisions plus seniors teams etc. Is this not just the same?

EnjoyChoke

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Sid_Justice

I'm not sure what the protocol is for merging divisions, is it up to the organiser himself to merge as he feels fit?

I think its important to set a precedent in the sport that divisions exist for every weight class and belt level. And that separate classes exist for <30, +35, +40 etc.

If competitions keep running the divisions the entries and participation will increase, where hopefully, in 10 years all these divisions will have numbers to justify their inclusion.

If you entered the Irish Amateur Boxing at <57 and someone told you there is no one fighting at that weight, you'd be entitled to your medal at <57. It becomes messy if you want to jump in the 61kg division instead, because, to the best of my knowledge, you can't enter two weight divisions therefore couldn't get your medal in <57 and do <61 anyway to get a fight.

I don't see why it should be any different in BJJ. The sport is very competitive and success in competition drives individuals and the availability of fair competition drives competition.

I take the point that someone winning a Gold medal in a group of 2 isn't quite the same achievement of someone winning A gold in a group of 32

David Jones

I have edited original post which began with congratulations need I remind you. A simple question of are there too many divisions and does the absolute reflect the real standard etc. You have managed to turn into something it was not. I said my congrats and my question was related to the comp in question so not unrelated.

I think i have done more positive things for bjj in Ireland than most on here and certainly individuals like yourself who continue to hide behind user names. I don't think I can recall ever being disrespectful to anyone regardless of their posts on here. I have edited my posts as they seem to have caused offence, I suggest you take the opportunity to do the same.

With regard the rugby analogy, if you don't have enough numbers for a j3 then you don't enter a team and your club only has a j1 and j2. And if you are the only j3 team then there is no competition and you don't win anything.

SDTimeout

I don't think it's a big secret who EnjoyChoke is considering how he's responded to this thread. EnjoyArmbars might be more current however..

EnjoyChoke

David Jones wrote: »

I have edited original post which began with congratulations need I remind you. A simple question of are there too many divisions and does the absolute reflect the real standard etc. You have managed to turn into something it was not. I said my congrats and my question was related to the comp in question so not unrelated.

I think i have done more positive things for bjj in Ireland than most on here and certainly individuals like yourself who continue to hide behind user names. I don't think I can recall ever being disrespectful to anyone regardless of their posts on here. I have edited my posts as they seem to have caused offence, I suggest you take the opportunity to do the same.

Done, I’ve no interest in an internet bitching session.
I’m not doubting the positive influence you’ve had on the sport here, I was referring to your recent posts.
It’s fairly obvious who I am and I haven’t said anything that I wouldn’t say face to face.
Let’s leave it there.