Remove ps3 update?

98q76e12hrflnk

Is there a way to remove ps3 updates(i.e 3.??) not game updates.I only use ps3 for movies and cinevia is a pain.Will a formate of the hard drive do it?

I want to remove updates to get ride of cinevia

ex_infantry man

Bryce Tangy Dachshund wrote: »

Is there a way to remove ps3 updates(i.e 3.??) not game updates.I only use ps3 for movies and cinevia is a pain.Will a formate of the hard drive do it?

why would you wanna remove an update???updates generally are a good thing

98q76e12hrflnk

You obviously dont know what im on about.

TouchingVirus

You cannot downgrade the PS3 firmware. But don't upgrade beyond 3.73, and next time drop into the Console Modding forum, I got your hint

Captain Chaos

Updates are not stored on the HDD. They are stored on the CMOS chip on the main board. Has to be flashed some way or another.

noodler

Bryce Tangy Dachshund wrote: »

You obviously dont know what im on about.

Charming.

Varik

Bryce Tangy Dachshund wrote: »

You obviously dont know what im on about.

Translation, "i want to pirate movies"

Helix

why would you need to downgrade your firmware to do that? i dont think it's movies he wants to pirate

Varik

Helix wrote: »

why would you need to downgrade your firmware to do that? i dont think it's movies he wants to pirate

Cinavia is a audio watermark that tells the player what it is, you can't remove it as it's part of the sound that coming though the speakers in the cinema or you house.

So hidden under the explosions, music, and dialogue is information on what the sound it meant to be played on. So when the PS3 "hears" that the audio is meant to be coming over a cinemas speakers rather than a ps3 it won't play.

There's no legitimate source that would have it, it can't be removed as it's part of the sound so the only way to play movies that have it is to play them on a player that does not check for it.

Helix

Varik wrote: »

Cinavia is a audio watermark that tells the player what it is, you can't remove it as it's part of the sound that coming though the speakers in the cinema or you house.

So hidden under the explosions, music, and dialogue is information on what the sound it meant to be played on. So when the PS3 "hears" that the audio is meant to be coming over a cinemas speakers rather than a ps3 it won't play.

There's no legitimate source that would have it, it can't be removed as it's part of the sound so the only way to play movies that have it is to play them on a player that does not check for it.

or you just reencode the file to have stereo audio instead of swanky cinavia

Varik

Helix wrote: »

or you just reencode the file to have stereo audio instead of swanky cinavia

It's sound, can you remove the music from a film without messing with anything else.

Helix

Varik wrote: »

It's sound, can you remove the music from a film without messing with anything else.

very, very easily

edgecutter

Get yourself an e3 flasher

Varik

Helix wrote: »

very, very easily

They embed a signal in the analog master audio track before mastering it, as long as the player can detect even the smallest trace of it then it won't play.

No filtering or encoding will get rid of all of it, it's interspersed throughout the full spectrum.

Myrddin

Varik wrote: »

They embed a signal in the analog master audio track before mastering it, as long as the player can detect even the smallest trace of it then it won't play.

No filtering or encoding will get rid of all of it, it's interspersed throughout the full spectrum.

From what I know of the tech this is true, its embedded in the analogue signal & as such filtering won't work.

Varik

EnterNow wrote: »

From what I know of the tech this is true, its embedded in the analogue signal & as such filtering won't work.

Only using a player that either has been hacked to disable the player side of things or never had it to begin with.

And like all DRM it can still piss off someone who buys the stuff, but in this case it's only audiophiles and they're weird so who cares.

Myrddin

Varik wrote: »

Only using a player that either has been hacked to disable the player side of things or never had it to begin with.

And like all DRM it can still piss off someone who buys the stuff, but in this case it's only audiophiles and they're weird so who cares.

I don't think the trigger though is any retail dvd or film, it's purely encoded onto cinema\leaked video files isn't it? I could well be wrong, but is there any legitimate use for not having the checks in place?

Varik

EnterNow wrote: »

I don't think the trigger though is any retail dvd or film, it's purely encoded onto cinema\leaked video files isn't it? I could well be wrong, but is there any legitimate use for not having the checks in place?

There're DVDs, BLu-rays, and cinema/leaked that have it, i don't think it's been found on any streaming or digital distribution yet(Itunes or netflix).

No reason that any format can't have it, no issue of backwards compatibility with older players or older formats.

There's no legitimate use in Ireland, but country by county back up and DRM protection laws change.

Helix

EnterNow wrote: »

From what I know of the tech this is true, its embedded in the analogue signal & as such filtering won't work.

well if its out of the audible range then just rolling off everything under 100hz and over 17khz would get rid of it

Varik

Helix wrote: »

well if its out of the audible range then just rolling off everything under 100hz and over 17khz would get rid of it

it's not.

Helix

any ideas where it resides on the frequency spectrum? im quite curious about this now lol

Varik

Helix wrote: »

any ideas where it resides on the frequency spectrum? im quite curious about this now lol

All of it, varying with time and unique to each master track.

Main reason it's impossible(no one mention locks or keys) to remove from the file without having the isolated source to be compared to and again that's per track and probably very well guarded, and why in this case messing with the PS3 firmware to remove the checks is the only way.

Myrddin

Helix wrote: »

any ideas where it resides on the frequency spectrum? im quite curious about this now lol

As Varik mentions, it encompasses the whole sprectrum, & because its analogue, its IN the audio as such.

I'm no lover of DRM but given my limited knowledge of this type, I don't see hows a bad thing...unless there are other implications for it

Varik

EnterNow wrote: »

I'm no lover of DRM but given my limited knowledge of this type, I don't see hows a bad thing...unless there are other implications for it

It's at times in the audible range and as such audiophile hate it as it's noise and even knowing it's there is an offence, no chance of hearing such a subtle thing and i assume it's tailored to the audio. But removing any checks won't remove the sound and using some method that could remove it would worse be that leaving it in.

Myrddin

Varik wrote: »

It's at times in the audible range and as such audiophile hate it as it's noise and even knowing it's there is an offence, no chance of hearing such a subtle thing and i assume it's tailored to the audio. But removing any checks won't remove the sound and using some method that could remove it would worse be that leaving it in.

Ah I see, enthusiasts eh? Hard to imagine you can actually hear an audible signal from it!