bad day online boylesports.

tosell

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HI all,

I have had really bad day playing virtual horses on boylesports.
i know for fact they have these fixed. at times u may win and also you see the big odds coming in and u might think oh i was close ect just another go.
that when they said in the outsiders to win and also the repeat results when go to bet again.
the reason iam posting is iam pissed off at myself for playing and i dont want anyone else here to play.

on side issue they say games have 90 per ish win rate ect , bull,
please keep your money and dont play online as you will end up as
pissed off as i am today. i want to post this on many places as i can so it might even just help few.


p.s i know someone said paddypower games just as bad.

UrbanSea

At least you know now for the future.

I find it so frustrating that people bet on those events. They are pure chance

ft9

UrbanSea wrote: »

At least you know now for the future.

I find it so frustrating that people bet on those events. They are pure chance

They are not even chance in my eyes US. The way I see it, your betting against a computer, no prizes for guessing who's gonna win.

UrbanSea

Too right. Same with that roulette in Boyles

okidoki987

Virtual, Roulette etc - NEVER ever touch them.
Someone I know had a few drinks on board and went to collect a large amount from the previous nights gambling from Boyles.
While waiting for the real racing to start, decided to play the Roulette Wheel.
He stuck 3 bets of €100 on 3 seperate spins on black/red at evens.
Lost all three in a row!
Of course when he stopped betting on black, the black numbers came up.
Coincedence or what?

Tried his luck at the virtual racing and lost every bet he did.
Close to losing all his winnings, he legged it out of the shop with at least some of his money left.

Have a look at how many favourites win at virtual racing.
I'm sure it's a lot lower measured against normal racing favs.

cup of tea

Not just limited to virtual racing or roulette, ANY games on betting sites are completely against us. There is no edge whatsoever you can get, hard enough to get an edge on the bookies as it is!!.Just if at all possible never click the games tab on any betting sites(unless it's a free stake ).

Considering Einstein concluded one had feck all chance with an unbiased roulette wheel I think it's safe to say one has no chance with the boyles one either. I would be fairly certain that the 3 €100 bets not winning was just bad luck and nothing less too btw.

Sit down and work out the chances and the odds, the margin is all they need, they don't need to rig it too.

AstonMartin

Just make sure its the last time.

casino games should be outlawed.

zimmermania

I have never played roulette or cartoon racing online and anyone who bets online must have the willpower to resist that type of betting,otherwise they will go broke.Backing favs blindly will get you back 90% of your money.Backing on virtual stuff will lose you 90% of your money.Many virtual punters do their dosh following a bad days punting on,soccer,racing,golf or whatever they punt on.Having lost maybe more than they should have,punters are now in a very vunerable position and the desire to win back losses means that rational thinking is impossible and thats when real carnage occurs.Punters must never even contemplate betting in these circumstances.Our mantra must be VIRTUAL RACING,ROULETTE SLOTS etc is for mugs.

DB74

okidoki987 wrote: »

Virtual, Roulette etc - NEVER ever touch them.
Someone I know had a few drinks on board and went to collect a large amount from the previous nights gambling from Boyles.
While waiting for the real racing to start, decided to play the Roulette Wheel.
He stuck 3 bets of €100 on 3 seperate spins on black/red at evens.
Lost all three in a row!
Of course when he stopped betting on black, the black numbers came up.
Coincedence or what?

A good while ago (maybe a year or more), Betfair had some promotion thingy whereby if you spent so much on the roulette wheel then you got a free bet or something similar (can't remember the exact details but I only ever play when you get something for nothing, or next-to-nothing!)

Anyway I put €5 on red and €5 on black ... zero comes up

Did it again straight away ... zero comes up again

3rd time .. zero AGAIN!

I swear to God I nearly put my fist through the computer screen I was that pissed off

I had to self-exclude myself for life from the casino after that

Collie D

RoverJames wrote: »

Considering Einstein concluded one had feck all chance with an unbiased roulette wheel I think it's safe to say one has no chance with the boyles one either. I would be fairly certain that the 3 €100 bets not winning was just bad luck and nothing less too btw.

Sit down and work out the chances and the odds, the margin is all they need, they don't need to rig it too.

Really can't argue with this. Bookies wouldn't risk their licence rigging a roulette when the odds are already in their favour.
Now, some dodgy back-alley casino or unheard of offshore casino site may be a different matter and I've no idea how virtual horses work but I have my (more than unlikely) suspicions.

DB74 wrote: »

Anyway I put €5 on red and €5 on black ... zero comes up

Did it again straight away ... zero comes up again

3rd time .. zero AGAIN!

Sorry, I shouldn't laugh at someone's misfortune but I did.

cup of tea

Can still remember back to the time playing deal or no deal and being left with two boxes 1c and 100e and a deal of 40e. You don't need much of an imagination to see where this post is going....

Oscars Well.

And the moral of the story is stay well away from virtual games/racing and stick to real life :pac:

abouttobebanned

I would like to see an investigation, and a transparent one at that, into exactly how winners are decided on programs like Luckson Downs, Steephill Downs, Portman Park etc. I did some research on this a few months back...ladbrokes have one too and believe it or not, they actually have odds on shots in there.

We have no idea how the winners are decided and for all we know, no matter how unlikely it seems, the outcome may be decided only after our bet is known.

During the research (for the grasp forum) it was also found that the race itself was irrelevant. As soon as you placed the bet, you could refresh your balance and see if you won, before the race even starts. That alone should show people that there is no good that can come of virtual betting.

UrbanSea

If the computer knows before the race is even off who's going to win,surely this is a fix?

abouttobebanned

abouttobebanned wrote: »

I would like to see an investigation, and a transparent one at that, into exactly how winners are decided on programs like Luckson Downs, Steephill Downs, Portman Park etc. ..............................

We have no idea how the winners are decided and for all we know, no matter how unlikely it seems, the outcome may be decided only after our bet is known.

......................

Considering most of the virtual stuff you mention in on every betting office screen in Ireland and the UK do you really honestly think that prior to the off they somehow make a decision based on "our bet is known".

Iirc it's essentially a lottery type thing, the odds for each option is proportional to the number of balls in the lot for that option, the fav has more balls than the outsiders, there is a bookies margin too obviously. And I would think it's regulated and subject to audit much like an actual lottery.

abouttobebanned

Rover, I was referring to the online option. But thanks for the smugness, I enjoyed it.

The rest of your post is just guesswork.

mickey1979

Mate your right to a certain point. They say that virtual horses and games are a payout of 80%. Simple that means put a 100 in expect to get 80. However I think this is complete toss I think that online anyway or in FOBT's that the more you stake the bigger the bookies cut. I don't gamble on these things but have done in the past. They are the biggest earners for the bookies in the UK and thank god they have never come to this country and restricted to online thus far. These games casinos have been described as the crack cocaine of gambling and you are best advised to steer clear. In English bookmakers they can expect to make there overheads everyweek out of three FOBT's yet people keep playing them nuts

UrbanSea

They are here. Virtual racing is in all the shops and there's a Ladbrokes in town here that I was in the other day and went to the toilet. I didn't realise but there was a slot machine room in there in the back

thesandeman

One of the local bookies got a poker machine in for a couple of days here as well. Someone rang Joe Duffy about it and it dispareared very quickly lol.
A bookie found to have gaming machines can lose their licence.

abouttobebanned

abouttobebanned wrote: »

Rover, I was referring to the online option. But thanks for the smugness, I enjoyed it.

The rest of your post is just guesswork.

... so online virtual gambling is not subject to the regulations and audit that games available in the high street offices are? Btw smugness?

okidoki987

If you can check before the race is off , then why not put a yoyo on each horse and check the result after each bet?
Then You'll know the result and either have a whack on the winner yourself?

oneillMan999

I must say, i have the odd flutter on paddy power roulette (red and black only, im not stooopid) and have yet to have a losing session, it seems a little less random than a live wheel so i usually pick a colour and bet on it 15 times in a row then change over, i always notice they seems to have runs of 5 or 6 in a row quite often so this usually makes me win between 1 and 2 spins profit per 15 spins...

Now this isnt a system to beat roulette or anything but it proves its not rigged against me...and im just lucky enough to be better than break even.