Recovering from Religion

Tim Robbins

Fellow Heathens,
What is the Charity that helps people recover from the effects of Religion?
Cheers,

Genghiz Cohen

Funny Side Of Religion thread

robindch

A+A forum, though it's not a charity

The Mad Hatter

robindch wrote: »

A+A forum, though it's not a charity

Sure it is. Donations can be sent to me.

strobe

Tim Robbins wrote: »

Fellow Heathens,
What is the Charity that helps people recover from the effects of Religion?
Cheers,

I know you are joking but there actually are several charity groups that do work in this area.

I watched a pretty good doc on Nat Geo recently called 'The Secret World of Hasidism' (I've been waiting for it to pop up on youtube or somewhere so I could post it) and there are several groups in the US (and presumably elsewhere) that offer support to Hasidic Jews that leave their religion. Often these people find themselves suddenly without a friend or supportive family member in the world and very few of the skills needed to live productive adult lives in mainstream society. They help them get into proper education, find apartments and basically become self sufficient. A big challenge for a lot of them seemed to be simply learning how to make their own decisions about things, as previously they had every major decision set out for them.

I know there is also an organisation that supports Mormon apostates in the US.

There are also groups such as Cult Information Centre in the UK that do work in this area.

Tim Robbins

I wasn't joking. There was one mentioned in a Dawkins documentary just can't remember the name of it.

Siuin

strobe wrote: »

I watched a pretty good doc on Nat Geo recently called 'The Secret World of Hasidism' (I've been waiting for it to pop up on youtube or somewhere so I could post it) and there are several groups in the US (and presumably elsewhere) that offer support to Hasidic Jews that leave their religion.

When I registered to volunteer in Israel, an organisation like this was offered to me called Hillel (http://www.charity-charities.org/Israel-charities/RamatGan-1464750.html)- their basic aim is to offer support to counteract the isolation someone leaving an ultra-orthodox community might face, and often the abuse they would have suffered while part of it, and to help reconstruct their lives without the influences of extreme religion. People really underestimate the extent to which religion interferes with basic aspects of human life- Judaism even has a prayer that you need to say when you use the toilet... it takes a lot of adjustment to lead an 'ordinary' life after you've been praying every time you take a dump

Sarky

I've had good results with a combination of fine alcohol, good books and general apathy about other peoples' beliefs.

magicbastarder

strobe wrote: »

I watched a pretty good doc on Nat Geo recently called 'The Secret World of Hasidism' (I've been waiting for it to pop up on youtube or somewhere so I could post it) and there are several groups in the US (and presumably elsewhere) that offer support to Hasidic Jews that leave their religion.

what happens when a hasidic jew meets a basic jew?

Sarky

Their pH levels become closer to neutral.

recedite

magicbastarder wrote: »

what happens when a hasidic jew meets a basic jew?

They take each other with a pinch of salt

Morag

Tim Robbins wrote: »

Fellow Heathens,

the Heathens do believe in gods and so tend to post in the paganism forum.

Kepti

Sharrow wrote: »

the Heathens do believe in gods and so tend to post in the paganism forum.

Was curious so I looked this up. Three of the four definitions could apply to atheists.

noun /ˈhēT͟Hən/ 
heathens, plural

derogatory. A person who does not belong to a widely held religion (esp. one who is not a Christian, Jew, or Muslim) as regarded by those who do

A follower of a polytheistic religion; a pagan

Heathen people collectively, esp. (in biblical use) those who did not worship the God of Israel

derogatory. An unenlightened person; a person regarded as lacking culture or moral principles

Jimoslimos

Kepti wrote: »

Was curious so I looked this up. Three of the four definitions could apply to atheists.

derogatory. An unenlightened person; a person regarded as lacking culture or moral principles

Unenlightened?? Lacking culture??

I know.....stuff......and......things.......about art and **** like that.

Michael Nugent

Tim Robbins wrote: »

Fellow Heathens,
What is the Charity that helps people recover from the effects of Religion?
Cheers,

You might be thinking of Recovering from Religion

http://recoveringreligionists.com/

Their founder Darrel Ray spoke at the 2010 Atheist Ireland AGM.

goose2005

"Heathen" and "pagan" are ancient words for "culchie", because country people are backward no matter where you go.

magicbastarder wrote: »

what happens when a hasidic jew meets a basic jew?

That would be an ecumenical matter.

Siuin

I told that hasidic/basic Jew joke to an Israeli friend and he just got angry and demanded to know what I thought a 'basic' Jew was

Can't please 'em all!

Jimoslimos

magicbastarder wrote: »

what happens when a hasidic jew meets a basic jew?

The Dead Sea??


Sorry if that's a little too cryptic:o

strobe

Siuin wrote: »

I told that hasidic/basic Jew joke to an Israeli friend and he just got angry and demanded to know what I thought a 'basic' Jew was

Can't please 'em all!

Oh just tell him not to be so caustic.

Pace2008

Siuin wrote: »

I told that hasidic/basic Jew joke to an Israeli friend and he just got angry and demanded to know what I thought a 'basic' Jew was

Can't please 'em all!

As a person of Jewish descent, I don't take kindly to jokes about us Jews.
I think they often cement prejudices and misinterpretations of the Jewish people and culture.
But, every now and then, even I enjoy a good laugh and feel that I shouldn't be so serious about everything.

So I have a very good joke about the holocaust here, if anyone wants to buy it.

Siuin

Pace2008 wrote: »

As a person of Jewish descent, I don't take kindly to jokes about us Jews.
I think they often cement prejudices and misinterpretations of the Jewish people and culture.
But, every now and then, even I enjoy a good laugh and feel that I shouldn't be so serious about everything.

So I have a very good joke about the holocaust here, if anyone wants to buy it.

XD

Just reminded me of an interesting moment on the bus in Israel when my boyfriend was telling me that I needed to be careful with what I said or it might get me in trouble cos people tend to be a little more... highly strung there. 10 minutes later the bus was bouncing around like crazy and I said to him; "whoah, it's like a roller coaster!"
Dude in front of us whips around-- "did you say it's like the Holocaust??"
Sweet Jesus, what have I gotten myself in for...

Dades

Siuin wrote: »

Sweet Jesus, what have I gotten myself in for...

Did you just say Sweet Jesus?

Siuin

Dades wrote: »

Did you just say Sweet Jesus?

:eek: Instant ban from A&A??

mikhail

Dades wrote: »

Did you just say Sweet Jesus?

Clearly a slip of the mind - he's left out a word.

Siuin

mikhail wrote: »

Clearly a slip of the mind - he's left out a word.

She! :P

Sarky

Heh, those crazy Jews...

Panrich

goose2005 wrote: »

"Heathen" and "pagan" are ancient words for "culchie", because country people are backward no matter where you go.

In ancient times, everyone was a culchie and anyway there were no jackeens because there were no union jacks to wave.