Gross Margins

locky76

Hey folks,

Can anyone supply me with gross margins/acre for the following (or alternatively point me in the direction of someone/womewhere it is stored):

• Winter wheat
• Spring Barley
• Milk
• Suckler

I've tried google to no avail:rolleyes:.

Tipp Man

Before you go anywhere i think it is important to determine exactly what you define as gross margin. Everybody seems to have a different opinion of what it is nowadays. Reading the journal sometimes and you see items they have clearly not included and i am wondering what the hell, how can you not include that.

So I think the detailed definition of what you want gross margin to be is the first step

pakalasa

Exactly. That bugs the hell out of me. It's as if labour, buildings etc are all free. The farmers journal, etc quote gross income figures that in other business's would be just laughed at...

Even some farmers think that just because they have paid off the bank, that the cost of the slatted shed isn't an expense.

flatout11

locky76 wrote: »

Hey folks,


Can anyone supply me with gross margins/acre for the following (or alternatively point me in the direction of someone/womewhere it is stored):

• Winter wheat
• Spring Barley
• Milk
• Suckler

I've tried google to no avail:rolleyes:.

look up the national farm survey report it gives a break down of each enterprise in GM or net terms which ever you prefer

tilting tim

There is a breakdown in the farmers handbook.
http://www.farmershandbook.ie/pdf/Samples_2010/03_Gross_Margins.pdf
Should be a guide anyway but have to watch what's included.

nilhg

Some info from the National Farm Survey here (PDF) and the crops cost and returns booklet that Teagasc produce is here (also PDF).


FWIW I'm one of the farmers surveyed for the National Farm Survey and I do think it's a fairly comprehensive look at the finances of the farms involved, the recorder comes and goes through all the cheques, invoices, statements and sales, they are dealing with farmers all the time so they know all the questions to ask. Your accounts when they come back wouldn't be quite the same as your accounts for tax but possibly are more useful as a management tool.

blue5000

http://www.teagasc.ie/publications/2011/1031/EprofitDrystock2010.pdf

You'll find the suckler info here, p36. God help us, the top 1/3 are making a net profit of 83e /ha before subs.:eek:

bob charles

blue5000 wrote: »

http://www.teagasc.ie/publications/2011/1031/EprofitDrystock2010.pdf

You'll find the suckler info here, p36. God help us, the top 1/3 are making a net profit of 83e /ha before subs.:eek:

Check out page 44 Non breeding cattle farms

The top 1/3 of farms made a Net Profit before premia of €-7 per ha:eek:. Im telling you for non breeding farms just to stay in business is something else