Protecting Employment

rodento

With tax's and levies my wages are slashed. But at least I've been told that the government plans to hit those who aren't paying tax by widening the tax burden so I don't have to worry cause my salary is protected....

So instead I have to worry about

Tax credits going down
Child Welfare going down
Vat going up
Carbon Tax going up
Property Tax
Water Charges
Road Tolls
Incease in Road Tax

Can anyone tell me how these measures protect jobs and not just push struggling families over the edge

At least they won't have to worry about people going North, as no one will be able to afford the trip with the new tolls and the price of petrol these days :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

stucass

They should be investing in infra structure while wages are down and materials relatively cheap. A very large portion of this money would be spent straight back into the economy producing more jobs and more tax for the government. Hitting motorists again is a joke. Unless you live in a town there is no choice but to drive, and you certainly don't get what you paid for with the roads. I understand they have a deficit, but I bet the very top earners don't pay any more.

thebman

stucass wrote: »

They should be investing in infra structure while wages are down and materials relatively cheap. A very large portion of this money would be spent straight back into the economy producing more jobs and more tax for the government. Hitting motorists again is a joke. Unless you live in a town there is no choice but to drive, and you certainly don't get what you paid for with the roads. I understand they have a deficit, but I bet the very top earners don't pay any more.

Where the hell is the money going to come from to invest in the infrastructure?

realdanbreen

rodento wrote: »

With tax's and levies my wages are slashed. But at least I've been told that the government plans to hit those who aren't paying tax by widening the tax burden so I don't have to worry cause my salary is protected....

So instead I have to worry about

Tax credits going down
Child Welfare going down
Vat going up
Carbon Tax going up
Property Tax
Water Charges
Road Tolls
Incease in Road Tax

Can anyone tell me how these measures protect jobs and not just push struggling families over the edge

At least they won't have to worry about people going North, as no one will be able to afford the trip with the new tolls and the price of petrol these days :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Maybe you should start by not worrying so much.
We tend to worry a lot about things we have little control over.

puffdragon

realdanbreen wrote: »

Maybe you should start by not worrying so much.
We tend to worry a lot about things we have little control over.

I think rodento is entirely right to be worried, there's a real air of looming poverty slowly creeping in to the country ,

I believe the powers that be are aware of the real depth of the global recession and hard as they may try can do little about it.

The apparent message from this government is that we should all try to emigrate if we can ,this is clear from the number of foreign jobs fairs and visits from recruitment agencies , subsidized and encouraged by the government. At least they can say in two or three years time "we told you to get out" while the going was good.

Worried ?! yes I'd be worried too.

realdanbreen

I said worrying about things we have 'little control over'
Some people can get into a state over things and very often can't remember what it was they were worrying about 2 months ago.

ZoneAlarm

realdanbreen wrote: »

I said worrying about things we have 'little control over'
Some people can get into a state over things and very often can't remember what it was they were worrying about 2 months ago.

Unfortunately there is lots of people out there that should be worried regardless of having "control or not over it" many people are on the bread line, some are even losing there houses, families been split up for what a government that dont give a hoot about them, it was like the lisbon treaty we all told the Government No and what did they do, decided to have another vote just to make sure they would get a yes this time.

People forget all to often that is the problem about things that matter, our biggest problem was entering the EU monetery, we should have been box clever and done what the Uk done join the EU and keep their own currency, people thought they would be better off changing only now to find out they have lost a quater of our old pound.

realdanbreen

ZoneAlarm wrote: »

Unfortunately there is lots of people out there that should be worried regardless of having "control or not over it" many people are on the bread line, some are even losing there houses, families been split up for what a government that dont give a hoot about them, it was like the lisbon treaty we all told the Government No and what did they do, decided to have another vote just to make sure they would get a yes this time.

People forget all to often that is the problem about things that matter, our biggest problem was entering the EU monetery, we should have been box clever and done what the Uk done join the EU and keep their own currency, people thought they would be better off changing only now to find out they have lost a quater of our old pound.

So you reckon our punt was on a par with Sterling and we should have told Europe to shove their euro?

RichardAnd

ZoneAlarm wrote: »

Unfortunately there is lots of people out there that should be worried regardless of having "control or not over it" many people are on the bread line, some are even losing there houses, families been split up for what a government that dont give a hoot about them, it was like the lisbon treaty we all told the Government No and what did they do, decided to have another vote just to make sure they would get a yes this time.

People forget all to often that is the problem about things that matter, our biggest problem was entering the EU monetery, we should have been box clever and done what the Uk done join the EU and keep their own currency, people thought they would be better off changing only now to find out they have lost a quater of our old pound.

To be fair, I think the British decision to stay out of the Euro was more one of nostalgia than economic acumen. The Sterling has been with the british people for close to a thousand years and has a rich history that they seemed unwilling to close the book on. That alone was a good reason to keep out of the Euro as why give up a historically rich and tradition laden currency for the characterless euro?

ZoneAlarm

realdanbreen wrote: »

So you reckon our punt was on a par with Sterling and we should have told Europe to shove their euro?

Work that out its simple 1 euro equates to 1.27 our old money the stirling is 84/88 to the euro, so all in all i would say yes on par.

ZoneAlarm

RichardAnd wrote: »

To be fair, I think the British decision to stay out of the Euro was more one of nostalgia than economic acumen. The Sterling has been with the british people for close to a thousand years and has a rich history that they seemed unwilling to close the book on. That alone was a good reason to keep out of the Euro as why give up a historically rich and tradition laden currency for the characterless euro?

Did we actually think we would be better off changing, well i for one did not as soon as we did everything was put up in price, so we would have been better to stick to what we had thats my opinion.

realdanbreen

ZoneAlarm wrote: »

Work that out its simple 1 euro equates to 1.27 our old money the stirling is 84/88 to the euro, so all in all i would say yes on par.

Try as I might, I can make no sense whatsoever of your post. To grant it the status of nonsensical would be to overvalue it.

rodento

ZoneAlarm wrote: »

Unfortunately there is lots of people out there that should be worried regardless of having "control or not over it" many people are on the bread line, some are even losing there houses, families been split up for what a government that dont give a hoot about them, it was like the lisbon treaty we all told the Government No and what did they do, decided to have another vote just to make sure they would get a yes this time.

People forget all to often that is the problem about things that matter, our biggest problem was entering the EU monetery, we should have been box clever and done what the Uk done join the EU and keep their own currency, people thought they would be better off changing only now to find out they have lost a quater of our old pound.

Aren't the british facing at least 10yrs of austerity

ZoneAlarm

And Ireland are looking at 10 yrs of Bankruptcy so who is struggling now.

ZoneAlarm

realdanbreen wrote: »

Try as I might, I can make no sense whatsoever of your post. To grant it the status of nonsensical would be to overvalue it.

Possibly the same as your nonsensical post about using cat5e (patch) cable to wire up a satallite dish which is impossible.

realdanbreen

ZoneAlarm wrote: »

Possibly the same as your nonsensical post about using cat5e (patch) cable to wire up a satallite dish which is impossible.

Cat5e isn't necessarily used as patch cable my friend. Did you ever hear of Cat5e solid cable?

ZoneAlarm

realdanbreen wrote: »

That was your experience. Mine was that I had the whole lot done & dusted in a few hours. That was 6 years ago and its going well since.I didn't have to cut down any trees and found the satellite with a finder that cost around €5
and didn't use cheap cable(BTW copper cat5e is good for 90mt)

Yes its used for networking "NOT" for fitting of satalite dishes :rolleyes: