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Water Tax?

  • 20-11-2011 11:47pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭


    Will the water tax also be for people in the countryside who have their own wells and septic tanks? Does anyone know anything about this. Just curious.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,685 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I'm no expert, but I can see every household having to pay it. Same as the property tax.

    Too hard to police otherwise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭Alibaba


    I have my own well and I would have no intention of paying a water tax for something i'm not getting off the State.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭largepants


    Alibaba wrote: »
    I have my own well and I would have no intention of paying a water tax for something i'm not getting off the State.

    Well I have my own well too and would have no problem paying the e100 tax. Of course I will insist on the givernment maintaining my well and testing the water on a regular basis. That would result in a net saving for me.Otherwise they can go jump for it. It has cost me thousands to install and is still costing money. No way. I'd rather go to jail.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,344 ✭✭✭Is mise le key




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭Tora Bora


    Alibaba wrote: »
    I have my own well and I would have no intention of paying a water tax for something i'm not getting off the State.


    Thing is, you do not actually own the water in your well:eek: You own the ground you walk on, but you do not own what is or comes from underneath it. The water belongs to the state!
    So, you will probably have to register your well as you will have to register your septic tank. You will have to upgrade same septic tank, if it does not meet standards, and that will cost you up to ten or twelve grand:o

    Nest years household charge, is just a taster. It will evolve into seperate charges for public water, private well, septic tank etc to be paid yearly.

    Government needs the money, to keep Mary Harney, and Bertie and John Bruton, and the likes on multiple pensions of €130k plus.
    It's your civic duty to support these great patriots.:cool:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,344 ✭✭✭Is mise le key


    Water should be a human right,

    http://article31.org/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,020 ✭✭✭ianuss


    Water should be a human right,

    http://article31.org/


    I'm going to make an assumption here and assume that the state will provide an option for those who genuinely cannot pay. Something like the fuel allowance or something similar would be my guess.

    Water charges are common in the modern developed world, it's probably something we're just going to have to get used to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭Tora Bora


    Water should be a human right,

    http://article31.org/

    So is food! Doesn't mean you get it for free:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭junipergreen


    I don't know if this is true but someone suggested it to me yesterday as a possibility for the household and water taxes - that if you're living in a shared house/flat (i.e. not with family or partner) - that the charge may be levied against each individual because they would constitute separate households. Is it just me or does that seem a bit, well, wrong?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,283 ✭✭✭✭Scofflaw


    ferike1 wrote: »
    Will the water tax also be for people in the countryside who have their own wells and septic tanks? Does anyone know anything about this. Just curious.

    You can probably assume that the intention of the system would be the same as for current commercial water charges, which would mean that those with their own well won't be liable, because what you're paying for is provision of treated mains water - if you have your own well, you're not using treated mains water.

    The septic tank charge, on the other hand, will presumably apply to everyone with a septic tank, because the charge is an inspection/licensing charge.

    cordially,
    Scofflaw


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭flutered


    this crowd dont give a schit about how funds are collected, as long as it is collected, they intend putting the house hold tax on the electric or gas bill if one does not pay it, there could be an opening for handy sized wind turbine sales then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,283 ✭✭✭✭Scofflaw


    I don't know if this is true but someone suggested it to me yesterday as a possibility for the household and water taxes - that if you're living in a shared house/flat (i.e. not with family or partner) - that the charge may be levied against each individual because they would constitute separate households. Is it just me or does that seem a bit, well, wrong?

    I don't think anyone has suggested that - bar the person you were talking to, obviously!

    cordially,
    Scofflaw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,344 ✭✭✭Is mise le key


    ianuss wrote: »
    I'm going to make an assumption here and assume that the state will provide an option for those who genuinely cannot pay. Something like the fuel allowance or something similar would be my guess.

    Water charges are common in the modern developed world, it's probably something we're just going to have to get used to.

    Ah yes, like the woman who froze to death in ballymun, this is how ireland provides for people in the most dire need,

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/0618/1224299153913.html

    Also, i can imagine the fuel allowance will be looked at at some point in the budgets to come.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,020 ✭✭✭ianuss


    Ah yes, like the woman who froze to death in ballymun, this is how ireland provides for people in the most dire need,

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/0618/1224299153913.html

    Also, i can imagine the fuel allowance will be looked at at some point in the budgets to come.


    Whilst any death is sad, 1 out of 4,500,000 is a tiny, tiny statistic by any standard. There will always by 'that case' no matter what happens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭Alibaba



    I know it is off the topic but this household tax is another crazy idea. I worked hard to pay off the mortgage on my house and now this crowd are sticking us with this tax just for the 'privilege' of owning our own home. I Have a HUGE ISSUE with this tax.


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