Ruaidhri Murphy - Brumbies

madds

Anyone know much about Ruaidhri Murphy? I know he joined Leinster back in '07 from the Academy and most recently was playing with Exeter Chiefs, but is he rated by any of ye? He's now with the Brumbies and Jake White has allocated him to a club I know in North Canberra, Gunghalin Eagles.

irishbucsfan

I have a vague memory of him. Don't know much about him though. Don't think he ever played senior rugby for Leinster.

GavMan

Thats about it really. Featured in the academy, never got a run of games at all. Headed to england and played championship with Exeter and 'A' rugby when they got into the premiership. Was released at the end of last season. Headed to Aus and obviously got picked up by the franchise.

Has a younger brother who played JCT with Rock. May well feature in the SCT in a couple of years

roycon

all i can say is good luck to the lad.he didnt want to hang around playing ail. maybe he will make his way back to leinster someday when he's 30 and battle hardened

http://www.brumbies.com.au/Team/PlayerProfile/tabid/1208/playerid/49/Default.aspx

WeeBushy

roycon wrote: »

all i can say is good luck to the lad.he didnt want to hang around playing ail. maybe he will make his way back to leinster someday when he's 30 and battle hardened

http://www.brumbies.com.au/Team/PlayerProfile/tabid/1208/playerid/49/Default.aspx

Love the way they have to put in bracets how to pronounce his first name!

Amazotheamazing

really hope it works out for him, what's the competition like for props in the Brumbies squad?

The Aussie

WeeBushy wrote: »

Love the way they have to put in bracets how to pronounce his first name!

I would find it even funnier if they pronounced his name wrong for the next 3 seasons only to be corrected because they did not show the player due respect and have how to pronounce his name in brackets, but thats just me i suppose:D

irishbucsfan

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

really hope it works out for him, what's the competition like for props in the Brumbies squad?

Ben Alexander is there. Stephen Moore is their hooker as well. Murphy would be doing very well to get ahead of the other lads as well. Fingers crossed.

How many other Irish guys have played Super XV rugby (presuming Murphy will manage to play at some point)

conneem-TT

Hope he does well too. He is also eligible to play for Australia afaik.

WeeBushy

conneem-TT wrote: »

Hope he does well too. He is also eligible to play for Australia afaik.

Apparently so. This is what it says on his Brumbies profile:

Born in Ireland and raised between Dubin and Perth, Ruaidhri (pron: Rory) Murphy has impressed the Brumbies coaching staff with his quality scrummaging technique and willingness to improve his game. Recruited as one of five Extended Playing Squad members at the end of 2011, Murphy has slotted into life in Canberra smoothly and is now a popular member of the squad. A former Irish Schoolboy and Under 20's representative, Murphy will be working hard to represent his adopted country in the future.

http://www.brumbies.com.au/Team/PlayerProfile/tabid/1208/playerid/49/Default.aspx

mickey1979

seems we know nothing about Rugby over here guess who is the odd one out in the front rows reds v brumbies game Irish Man the rest were wallabies

opinionatedfan

"I describe myself as a passionate Irish-Australian, I’ve spent over half my life in Australia and feel very much at home here."
The 24-year-old admitted he may consider playing for Ireland if they show interest before he is officially eligible for the Wallabies in May, 2014.
"If Ireland were to come knocking at a senior level, it would be something that would be hard not to look at," Murphy said.
"It would be a fantastic honour and justification for a good year and the Brumbies success, but I can't get ahead of myself and it’s a massive 'if and but'.
"For them to come and have a look at me all the way from Ireland would be a long shot, but if it came to that I’d have to consider it and think about the best options.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/australia-rugby/im-an-aussie-says-ruaidhri-murphy-20120710-21t92.html#ixzz2L3cijTyh

No brainer decision to me, get him back in Ireland. Can never have too many props hanging about.

opinionatedfan

mickey1979 wrote: »

seems we know nothing about Rugby over here guess who is the odd one out in the front rows reds v brumbies game Irish Man the rest were wallabies

we certainly have questionable talent evaluation when it comes to props. Or at least we did, that is starting to maybe turn around though

The Aussie

Mind you, the Australian Scrum for the past decade has been a laughing stock, so it might not be a case of him being good but more a case of being made look good, I will hold judgement until he faces a few of the South African teams and see how he fairs those encounters.

Hagz

Difference of hemispheres. Scrum is just a way of restarting play down there.

opinionatedfan

Hagz wrote: »

Difference of hemispheres. Scrum is just a way of restarting play down there.

harsh, any Irish player playing regularly in the s15 is worthy of consideration and praise.

Hagz

opinionatedfan wrote: »

harsh, any Irish player playing regularly in the s15 is worthy of consideration and praise.

I never stated nor implied otherwise

The powers at be were questioned in their ability to judge front-row players based on the fact that Murphy is playing with the Brumbies. When in reality, Murphy is playing in a competition where there is a lot less focus placed on scrums for a team that resides in a country notorious for their weak props.

It's entirely likely that Murphy's scrummaging was just not good enough for him to progress up here.

The Aussie

Hagz wrote: »

a country notorious for their weak props.

Ah man, come on I'm still in the room here. :pac:

Agree 100% though, Laughing Stock is a common phrase used.

If he was playing as a loose forward down there you would pay more attention to his progress.

GerM

opinionatedfan wrote: »

harsh, any Irish player playing regularly in the s15 is worthy of consideration and praise.

It's not harsh. Starting for an Australian side is no indication of scrummaging talent. Go through their panels and see how many props are capped. They hand them out like confetti because a) they're willing to cap new players and b) bugger all props have actually made a strong case for themselves.

He didn't make it at Leinster and he was shown the door at Exeter too where he got all of one sub appearance in the Premiership.

He has indicated that he wants to play for Oz so we can put him out of our minds in terms of Irish possibilities. He was on Aussie radio stating that he wants to be a Wallaby and that's his desire and aim.

We've had several props come up here who have played Super Rugby and they've been decidedly dodgy. WP Nel at Edinburgh is the latest who came north with a reputation as a solid scrummager and has been shunted around the place and openly admitted it's a different world up here when it comes to packing down.

Best of luck to Murphy but we have plenty of options to look at here before we need to go sniffing around Australia.

[Jackass]

Best of luck to the lad.

On a side note, for a prop, he looks no where near the 119KG in his squad profile and photo. Look at his shoulders and arms too, he looks like a back, and not a very big one at that!!



I guess the camera can lie! (hopefully, at least!)

The Aussie

Ha Ha....

A Pretty Boy Prop.

I can see why he got the short shift up here, he is going to be to afraid to mess up his hair, with out even thinking about getting his face messed up.

pickarooney

He appears to have a neck.

Swiwi

Hagz wrote: »

Difference of hemispheres. Scrum is just a way of restarting play down there.

That would be league. Whether you're in the NH or the SH, you still need a good forward pack to win major trophies. But I guess it's simpler to believe in 10-man rugby and unenterprising back-play in the North, and powder puff forwards and frilly back play in the south (bangs head against wall). I think it's more to do with weather conditions than anything else.

pickarooney

Swiwi wrote: »

That would be league. Whether you're in the NH or the SH, you still need a good forward pack to win major trophies. But I guess it's simpler to believe in 10-man rugby and unenterprising back-play in the North, and powder puff forwards and frilly back play in the south (bangs head against wall). I think it's more to do with weather conditions than anything else.

I'm sure it rains as much in New Zealand as it does in France and England.

Swiwi

pickarooney wrote: »

I'm sure it rains as much in New Zealand as it does in France and England.

Only on the West Coast pickarooney, only on the West Coast...(anyone who's been to Fiordland will know what I mean )

Hagz

Swiwi wrote: »

That would be league. Whether you're in the NH or the SH, you still need a good forward pack to win major trophies. But I guess it's simpler to believe in 10-man rugby and unenterprising back-play in the North, and powder puff forwards and frilly back play in the south (bangs head against wall). I think it's more to do with weather conditions than anything else.

Hey man, I'm just repeating what the SH props who come up here say. Why it was only a few weeks ago that a SH prop now in Ireland (don't ask me who as I can't remember) said exactly what I did. Word for word.

swiftman

Hagz wrote: »

Hey man, I'm just repeating what the SH props who come up here say. Why it was only a few weeks ago that a SH prop now in Ireland (don't ask me who as I can't remember) said exactly what I did. Word for word.

skip to 1.44 nathan white says, over here its more to set up attack and back home its to restart play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWso7vjSofc

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Swiwi

Hagz wrote: »

Hey man, I'm just repeating what the SH props who come up here say. Why it was only a few weeks ago that a SH prop now in Ireland (don't ask me who as I can't remember) said exactly what I did. Word for word.

Yeah, I know. There is almost too much emphasis on the scrum in France, and in NZ, at least, you need a few more strings to your bow than just being able to hold up a scrum. No doubt Aussie generally has the weakest props in terms of technique etc, but they have improved compared to the debacle at Marseille in 2007. NZ & SA also have some good props. Many of the Kiwis who have come here (eg Peter Borlase, Rodney Ah You) were more ITM quality front row players rather than top notch scrummagers.

Ronan Raver77

I think someone said earlier he could play for australia just saw this on his Brumbies profile "Due to his Irish heritage, Murphy is currently ineligible to represent Australia and comes to the Brumbies as their marquee international player."

pickarooney

That's a very clumsy way to phrase that, as though having a particular 'heritage' made you non-Australian.

justsomebloke

As per post earlier he is looking to play for Oz via the residency rule and will be eligible come May of next year

opinionatedfan wrote: »

The 24-year-old admitted he may consider playing for Ireland if they show interest before he is officially eligible for the Wallabies in May, 2014.