What is the value for the Superbowl

Themonkey

Green Bay Packers 15/8
New England Patriots 5/1
New Orleans Saints 15/2
Pittsburgh Steelers 9/1
San Francisco 49ers 10/1
Baltimore Ravens 12/1
Houston Texans 12/1
Dallas Cowboys 22/1
New York Giants 25/1
New York Jets 25/1
Atlanta Falcons 25/1
Chicago Bears 25/1
Detroit Lions 28/1
San Diego Chargers 33/1
Oakland Raiders 33/1
Philadelphia Eagles 40/1
Cincinnati Bengals 40/1
Buffalo Bills 40/1
Tennessee Titans 66/1 .............................................................. just curious to see wat people consider as a good bet for the superbowl personally i like the texans at 12s and think the cowboys are a nice price starting to motor at the right time

jack presley

Themonkey wrote: »

Green Bay Packers 15/8
New England Patriots 5/1
New Orleans Saints 15/2
Pittsburgh Steelers 9/1
San Francisco 49ers 10/1
Baltimore Ravens 12/1
Houston Texans 12/1
Dallas Cowboys 22/1
New York Giants 25/1
New York Jets 25/1
Atlanta Falcons 25/1
Chicago Bears 25/1
Detroit Lions 28/1
San Diego Chargers 33/1
Oakland Raiders 33/1
Philadelphia Eagles 40/1
Cincinnati Bengals 40/1
Buffalo Bills 40/1
Tennessee Titans 66/1 .............................................................. just curious to see wat people consider as a good bet for the superbowl personally i like the texans at 12s and think the cowboys are a nice price starting to motor at the right time

Texans would have been a good bet until Matt Schab was ruled out for the rest of the season on Monday.

FreeOSCAR

Sneaky bet i'd take the Cowboys @ 22/1.

jack presley

The Patriots have a nice run in and could easily go 13-3 and get home field throughout the playoffs and both the Steelers and Ravens are hit and miss so they could come out of the AFC

GoldFour4

Pittsburgh is always there or there about. San Francisco is ridiculously good value for the team with the second best record in the league. Their gonna get a first round bye.

Trampas

49ers have only played 1 division game also which even makes their start even better.

I can't see by Green Bay unless they have a knightmare in the playoffs but you can always back and lay.

Dallas are hitting fine form but Romo and November is a perfect partner after November is Romo funny season.

Dodge

If you're looking for a bit of trade value, I think the Jets at 25/1 is a decent bet. Likely to be the 5th seed, they'll play on the road in Oakland/San Diego in the first round and then in Baltimore/Pittsburgh in divisional games. Proven record of winnign play off gams on th road too

I can see a Pats/Jets rematch in the AFC championship (when the Jets will be significantly less than 25/1)

GoldFour4

Trampas wrote: »

49ers have only played 1 division game also which even makes their start even better.

I can't see by Green Bay unless they have a knightmare in the playoffs but you can always back and lay.

Dallas are hitting fine form but Romo and November is a perfect partner after November is Romo funny season.

I'd be wary of Green Bay. Everyone thought New England was unstoppable but Plexico Burress and Eli Manning proved otherwise. 16-0 means nothing in the playoffs. Its one team against the other, anything can happen. Its where the men are seperated from the boys.

Peyton Manning

Best value is the Steelers at 9/1 imo.

Saints are 62/5 on Betfair (according to OddsChecker) which works out at around 12.5/1. That seems like incredible value, although I've never used Betfair and I know it works a bit differently to other bookes, so not sure how that works out.

Themonkey

thats unlucky on the texans with schab out i didnt hear that i know green bay will be very difficult to beat but but them up against maybe the cowboys or the bears and they have big game players and good defense(bears)especially i think green bay d is there for the taking if u can stop rodgers big IF i know AFC picture is very messy and i wouldnt rule out san diego i know all laugh but there division is so bad there have a chance to get healthy by play off time

matthew8

Dodge wrote: »

If you're looking for a bit of trade value, I think the Jets at 25/1 is a decent bet. Likely to be the 5th seed, they'll play on the road in Oakland/San Diego in the first round and then in Baltimore/Pittsburgh in divisional games. Proven record of winnign play off gams on th road too

I can see a Pats/Jets rematch in the AFC championship (when the Jets will be significantly less than 25/1)

A team in the AFC North will be 5th seed, and perhaps another from the North will take the last wildcard spot.

UnitedIrishman

The Bears at 25-1 look a decent each way bet to me. They have a good running game, Cutler isn't getting pasted into the ground every week anymore, an excellent defence and the Soldier Field is a tough place to visit. Granted they'll be a wildcard and have a tough run to try and win it but they'd be my longshot to win it.. which is absolute blasphemy coming from a Packers fan!

spiralism

Broncos at 250/1... put your faith in Tebow, that's one way for God to repay you for backing his golden boy!:pac:

Packers odds aren't good but they're who i'd definitely expect to win it

spank_inferno

Steelers / 49rs / Ravens all seem good value

me-skywalker

Saints E/W? Do they do e/w in NFL? Otherwise Steelers is a great shout. I'm still wating unti lafter the Packers V Giants game, if we come through that with a win and a even half decent performance I'll lump on us straight away!

UnitedIrishman

me-skywalker wrote: »

Saints E/W? Do they do e/w in NFL? Otherwise Steelers is a great shout. I'm still wating unti lafter the Packers V Giants game, if we come through that with a win and a even half decent performance I'll lump on us straight away!

As far as I know, a lot of firms offer two different markets - E/W 1st and 2nd @ 1/2 the odds ; or E/W 1,2,3,4 at 1/4 the odds. So basically if your team reaches the Conference final you'll get paid out E/W in the case of the second market. It's a good bet considering the playoff contenders are shaping up pretty well now.

me-skywalker

Yea I understand the E/W from the horses/golf and soccer but never even looked at it for NFL before. Just thinking out loud that if they do offer it for the Superbowl (e/w including conferences) then there are some serious gambles there for the bookies to payout on. I just think they only cover the SB itself though as in 1st and 2nd. Ill have to check later.

padraig_f

In a single-game elimination playoff, the value is on the longer-priced teams. I think the top 3 are over-rated, Packers particularly so (though they are the best team on form, just over-rated at 15/8). The public over-rates offense and doesn't give enough credit to defense, so the bookies will lay those teams at shorter odds than they should be, because they know the public will bet them regardless.

Another reason the Packers are over-valued....of the top-10 favourites to win the Super Bowl, they've played only one so far. This was the Saints, at home, on the first day of the season, and it took a goal-line stand at the 1-yard line to stop that game going into overtime.

Compare that to say the Ravens, who've played 4 games against the top 10 teams (Steelers twice, Jets and Texans), and won all 4 games. So the Packers unbeaten record is deceptive, they haven't been tested yet.

If the Packers are over-rated, that means there's good value in the rest of the NFC. I already bet on the Cowboys @ 33/1. I think the Giants are flattered by their 6-3 record with an easy start to the season, but it's about to get a lot tougher, and I expect the Cowboys to win that division.

I think the Bears are also good value at 25/1. They've had a tough schedule to start the season, but the 2nd half gets a lot easier for them. They're a well balanced team (offense, defense special teams), which is something I look for. At some stage, you're going to have to win a game that doesn't quite go your way, and a balanced team has a better chance of doing this. The Bears play the Packers twice a year, so they're not going to be in any way awed by them. Winter weather should favour them in that matchup as well.

In the AFC I like the Ravens @ 15/1. I'd rate them about the same as the Steelers (10/1) but they have the tie-breaker, so just need to match them to win the division (both have easy remaining schedules). The winner of that division looks like getting a first-round bye now, with Matt Schaub getting injured.

The bye is a big factor, getting a first-round bye will roughly halve your odds. e.g. whether the Ravens or Steelers win the AFC North division will be big. If the Ravens beat the Bengals this week, their price probably drops below the Steelers.

Hulk Hands

The 2 best teams in the NFL right now are the Packers and the Saints. At the moment the Packers are looking terrific but they are 9/4 on Betfair as opposed to the 13/1 I just took about the Saints. When you see a price difference from 13/1 to the 15/2 on offered on the Saints in the bookies, you wonder why everyone isn't using Betfair.

Backing NFC teams EW is stupid this year. Most bookies will only pay E/W 2 places, which means they have to get to the Superbowl to get paid. To even get to the Superbowl this year, an NFC outsider is going to have to get through the Saints or the Packers or maybe both. If you fancy a NFC team as an outsider then back them outright, you can always lay off for a much better profit if they make it to the Superbowl.

The worst value of the whole lot imo is the 49ers. I would nearly lay them now but I don't want to tie up that much cash this side of Christmas. I probably will once the playoff's start though. Reasons being that they have yet to face a top class team, and that Alex Smith will never win them a Superbowl. They will also have to go through the minefield NFC. The only reason they are 10/1 or so is because they are guaranteed a playoff spot. They will be the same price in mid-January.

I've also had a small dabble on the Jets at 39/1. They are a doubt to make the playoff's at this stage, but I think they may come alive once again if they do.

matthew8

The 49ers are good, they beat the Bengals and Lions. Baltimore is great value here at 12/1. We hammered the Steelers at home, beat them away and also beat the Jets and Texans comprehensively. So the only very good AFC team we haven't beaten is the Patriots.

Here's how I'd rank the NFC teams in playoff spots:
1. Packers
2. Saints
3. 49ers
4. Bears
5. Lions
6. Giants

If the Cowboys make the playoffs there is no team I'd write them off against, they're a quality outfit.

Here's how I'd rank the AFC teams in playoff spots:
1. Baltimore Ravens
2. New England Patriots
3. Pittsburgh Steelers
4. Cincinatti Bengals
5. Oakland Raiders
6. Houston Texans

I wouldn't be able to decide on the total rankings.

UnitedIrishman

http://sports.ladbrokes.com/en-gb/American-Football/NFLAmerican-Football/NFL-t210002490#

For anyone looking for the 4 places EW.

Think I'm going to go for a team in either conference at a big price E/W for an added interest, or lump the Packers once the playoff teams are determined (and if their D improves further on last Monday).

SantryRed

Lads. Is Schaub definitely out for the season?

If so, Tennessee are 5/1 to win the AFC South. Great odds considering they're only two games behind and still have to play again.

Conor108

SantryRed wrote: »

Lads. Is Schaub definitely out for the season?

In an interview on the Texans site it says

Schaub will visit with doctors next week from Charlotte, N.C., and Indianapolis to see if he can avoid having season-ending surgery. He said that there’s “no way” his injury is career-threatening.

Texans are on a bye this week.

UnitedIrishman

Fairly bored and can't sleep so decided to do a run through of what I think (all opinion) the playoff shake-up will look like in the NFC first (.. will do one for the AFC tomorrow) and see where the value lies then. Doing a process of elimination - teams who are definitely out of the running:

Miami, Cleveland, Colts, Jaguars, Kansas, Redskins, Vikings, Panthers, Buccaneers, Seattle, Arizona, Rams, Bills and Eagles.

Teams left: 18 for 12 spots.

Top seeds in NFC to be Packers and 49ers barring miraculous collapses by either. 49ers have St Louis twice, Arizona and Seattle who, whilst being divisional games - are pretty poor.

Other contenders left in NFC:

NFC East:

Dallas - Have an easier schedule left than their divisional rivals the Giants - all bar the two Giants ties are against current losing teams. Dolphins visit tomorrow, followed by a journey to Arizona - so they could be two games ahead of the Giants going into the first of two major games left in the regular season. (Possibly back to lay possibility?) Prediction: 10-6 - with losses coming to Giants and one of Eagles/Bucs (there's bound to be a spanner in the works the way things have gone this year for the Cowboys).

Giants - Have a few tough weeks coming up. Packers and the Saints next up followed by a visit to Texas. Then after the Redskins to big games against the Jets and the Cowboys. Prediction: 9-7 finish with three losses to Packers, Saints and Cowboys. Could be being harsh there given their performances this year but for me the Packers and Saints are the two strongest sides in the NFC this year and I'm going 50/50 on the two Cowboys ties. Romo is fully fit again so we should see a better Dallas side for the rest of the season.

NFC North

Bears - Going to hinge majorly on whether the Bears manage to pick up Orton, but going to say theoretically that they don't and they're left with Hanie.. it's going to be very tough for them but they've relied on Forte more this year moreso than Cutler. Now the QB will have to make some throws in order for Forte to be able to not be singled out of course, and I think he'll be 'adequate'. That's being diplomatic. With Cutler they would have been definites for the playoffs IMO, but it's hard to know which way this is going to pan out having only seen Hanie a couple of times. Prediciton: 10-6. Oakland, Packers, and a playoff chasing Broncos side I think could do them damage.

Lions - Tomorrow evening it's the Packers and as a Packers fan, I had this chalked down as a possible loss at the start of the season. To be honest I can still see the Lions snatching this one from us. I can still see wins against the Vikings and the Chargers also (with another possible at Oakland). Prediction: 10-6 (without the Oakland win). With the Lions having a better divisional record than the Bears.

NFC South

Saints - They have some tough games left but I'd fancy them to win their home games against Giants, Lions, Panthers and on the road to Vikings and Titans. But I'm also going to go for history to repeat itself and fancy the Falcons to win on the road to the Saints in a copy of last year. Prediction: 12-4. Divisional winner with better record than Falcons.

Falcons - Consolation for the Falcons is that they'll make the playoffs as a wildcard. Jaguars, Panthers, Vikings, the Saints tie (either way will make little difference) and Tampa make the route slightly easier for Ryan and co. Prediction: 12-4.

That would leave: 1- Packers, 2 - 49ers; 3 - Saints, 4- Dallas, 5 - Falcons, 6 - Lions. (Correct me if I'm wrong!)

Lions @ Saints
Falcons @ Dallas

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If it came to this, you'd have to say 20's or 33's about the Cowboys or Falcons respectively would be decent value. Whilst I see the 49ers getting into the playoffs pretty easily, I don't think they're realistic Superbowl winners. So I'd be looking to back Falcons/Cowboys E/W 1,2,3,4 if possible.

Of course, had the Bears still got Cutler I'd be siding with them and it just shows that absolutely anything can happen between now and playoff time..

..so I've probably just wasted 2 hours doing out a load of results and possiblities to be proven wrong in 6-7 weeks!

Pherekydes

UnitedIrishman wrote: »

That would leave: 1- Packers, 2 - 49ers; 3 - Saints, 4- Dallas, 5 - Falcons, 6 - Lions. (Correct me if I'm wrong!)

Lions @ Saints - winner to play Packers

The #1 seed cannot play the #3 seed.

jimjimjimmy

UnitedIrishman wrote: »

Fairly bored and can't sleep so decided to do a run through of what I think (all opinion) the playoff shake-up will look like in the NFC first (.. will do one for the AFC tomorrow) and see where the value lies then. Doing a process of elimination - teams who are definitely out of the running:

Miami, Cleveland, Colts, Jaguars, Kansas, Redskins, Vikings, Panthers, Buccaneers, Seattle, Arizona, Rams, Bills and Eagles.

Teams left: 18 for 12 spots.

Top seeds in NFC to be Packers and 49ers barring miraculous collapses by either. 49ers have St Louis twice, Arizona and Seattle who, whilst being divisional games - are pretty poor.

Other contenders left in NFC:

NFC East:

Dallas - Have an easier schedule left than their divisional rivals the Giants - all bar the two Giants ties are against current losing teams. Dolphins visit tomorrow, followed by a journey to Arizona - so they could be two games ahead of the Giants going into the first of two major games left in the regular season. (Possibly back to lay possibility?) Prediction: 10-6 - with losses coming to Giants and one of Eagles/Bucs (there's bound to be a spanner in the works the way things have gone this year for the Cowboys).

Giants - Have a few tough weeks coming up. Packers and the Saints next up followed by a visit to Texas. Then after the Redskins to big games against the Jets and the Cowboys. Prediction: 9-7 finish with three losses to Packers, Saints and Cowboys. Could be being harsh there given their performances this year but for me the Packers and Saints are the two strongest sides in the NFC this year and I'm going 50/50 on the two Cowboys ties. Romo is fully fit again so we should see a better Dallas side for the rest of the season.

NFC North

Bears - Going to hinge majorly on whether the Bears manage to pick up Orton, but going to say theoretically that they don't and they're left with Hanie.. it's going to be very tough for them but they've relied on Forte more this year moreso than Cutler. Now the QB will have to make some throws in order for Forte to be able to not be singled out of course, and I think he'll be 'adequate'. That's being diplomatic. With Cutler they would have been definites for the playoffs IMO, but it's hard to know which way this is going to pan out having only seen Hanie a couple of times. Prediciton: 10-6. Oakland, Packers, and a playoff chasing Broncos side I think could do them damage.

Lions - Tomorrow evening it's the Packers and as a Packers fan, I had this chalked down as a possible loss at the start of the season. To be honest I can still see the Lions snatching this one from us. I can still see wins against the Vikings and the Chargers also (with another possible at Oakland). Prediction: 10-6 (without the Oakland win). With the Lions having a better divisional record than the Bears.

NFC South

Saints - They have some tough games left but I'd fancy them to win their home games against Giants, Lions, Panthers and on the road to Vikings and Titans. But I'm also going to go for history to repeat itself and fancy the Falcons to win on the road to the Saints in a copy of last year. Prediction: 12-4. Divisional winner with better record than Falcons.

Falcons - Consolation for the Falcons is that they'll make the playoffs as a wildcard. Jaguars, Panthers, Vikings, the Saints tie (either way will make little difference) and Tampa make the route slightly easier for Ryan and co. Prediction: 12-4.

That would leave: 1- Packers, 2 - 49ers; 3 - Saints, 4- Dallas, 5 - Falcons, 6 - Lions. (Correct me if I'm wrong!)

Lions @ Saints - winner to play Packers
Falcons @ Dallas - winner to play 49ers

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If it came to this, you'd have to say 20's or 33's about the Cowboys or Falcons respectively would be decent value. Whilst I see the 49ers getting into the playoffs pretty easily, I don't think they're realistic Superbowl winners. So I'd be looking to back Falcons/Cowboys E/W 1,2,3,4 if possible.

Of course, had the Bears still got Cutler I'd be siding with them and it just shows that absolutely anything can happen between now and playoff time..

..so I've probably just wasted 2 hours doing out a load of results and possiblities to be proven wrong in 6-7 weeks!

Should've used ESPN playoff machine, would've saved ya a bit of time.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/machine

UnitedIrishman

Pherekydes wrote: »

The #1 seed cannot play the #3 seed.

Ah yeah, forgot that it all depends on who goes through. Rookie error. In that case it'd be the Saints vs. 49ers and Cowboys vs. Packers IMO.

Here's what the AFC looked like after doing out the games:

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Morrisseeee

What are the current odds folks ? My favourites are now the Saints, but I wonder are the Chargers worth a few quid as a long shot, they were fairly impressive against the Ravens.

Johnny_Fontane

just got the steelers at 17/1, SF at 16/1, Texans at 34/1 and Tebow Time at 79/1.

Benny Cake

Johnny_Fontane wrote: »

just got the steelers at 17/1, SF at 16/1, Texans at 34/1 and Tebow Time at 79/1.

Good prices TBH, betfair?

Justin10

Chargers are currently 40/1

me-skywalker

steelers at 17/ & SF at 16/1 E/W looks like a a great shout to me... who is that with Johnny?

Johnny_Fontane

yep, betfair......steelers will win me €340!

adrian522

What are the odds on the ravens?

Hulk Hands

me-skywalker wrote: »

steelers at 17/ & SF at 16/1 E/W looks like a a great shout to me... who is that with Johnny?

You can't back e/w on betfair. Either way, it's pointless. If any NFC team beats the Saints and/or Packers on the way to an NFC title then they will go into the Superbowl as favourites. Then you just back the opposing team to lay off. Much better idea than backing an NFC team each way

spiralism

Johnny_Fontane wrote: »

just got the steelers at 17/1, SF at 16/1, Texans at 34/1 and Tebow Time at 79/1.

Somewhat ridiculously we're 79/1 while the chargers are 40/1 despite being a game back on us and in third place behind the raiders on a tiebreaker. I know they're talented and all but does stringing a couple of late wins together mean all that? After all, if we win at Buffalo, they're pretty much dead as regards the playoffs and the bookies will be laughing.

Normally this is the stage where a winner could be picked, enough games have been played for a clear picture to be seen. I've got the last 3 right at this time of year and imo the smart money is on New Orleans. They'll likely be home in the divisional, are near unstoppable in the superdome (6-0 this year with the closest winning margin 7 points. Atlanta and Carolina coming to town given their road woes will likely make that 8-0.) and the expected week 1 rematch at lambeau could go a lot differently with them wanting revenge and the pack having cooled off somewhat from their early season roll. After that, they would even have the advantage of playing a superbowl in a dome in Indy. In nine Dome games this year Brees is 257/353 for 2931 yds, 29 total tds (1 rush), 5 ints and a passer rating of 117.9 with an 8-1 record.
They also make good underdogs in recent years, and despite being third favourites at 6/1, are underdogs in the sense that they're in the NFC and are not the packers.

Hulk Hands

11/2 is the best price ive seen? Either way, yeah I agree that they're the ones to be on. For anyone looking to back them, have a think about taking the 9/2 about an NFC South winner. It'll give you the Falcons also who are starting to play well, and might give you 2 shots of beating the Packers

Justin10

Can get the Chargers at 54/1 on betfair.
While Donks are 80/1

bruschi

spiralism wrote: »

Somewhat ridiculously we're 79/1 while the chargers are 40/1 despite being a game back on us and in third place behind the raiders on a tiebreaker. I know they're talented and all but does stringing a couple of late wins together mean all that? After all, if we win at Buffalo, they're pretty much dead as regards the playoffs and the bookies will be laughing.

Normally this is the stage where a winner could be picked, enough games have been played for a clear picture to be seen. I've got the last 3 right at this time of year and imo the smart money is on New Orleans. They'll likely be home in the divisional, are near unstoppable in the superdome (6-0 this year with the closest winning margin 7 points. Atlanta and Carolina coming to town given their road woes will likely make that 8-0.) and the expected week 1 rematch at lambeau could go a lot differently with them wanting revenge and the pack having cooled off somewhat from their early season roll. After that, they would even have the advantage of playing a superbowl in a dome in Indy. In nine Dome games this year Brees is 257/353 for 2931 yds, 29 total tds (1 rush), 5 ints and a passer rating of 117.9 with an 8-1 record.
They also make good underdogs in recent years, and despite being third favourites at 6/1, are underdogs in the sense that they're in the NFC and are not the packers.

yup. I cant not for the life of me see how the chargers are good value at 40-1. I'd nearly only give them those odds just to get to the playoffs, never mind the superbowl.

adrian522

spiralism wrote: »

Somewhat ridiculously we're 79/1 while the chargers are 40/1 despite being a game back on us and in third place behind the raiders on a tiebreaker. I know they're talented and all but does stringing a couple of late wins together mean all that? After all, if we win at Buffalo, they're pretty much dead as regards the playoffs and the bookies will be laughing.

Normally this is the stage where a winner could be picked, enough games have been played for a clear picture to be seen. I've got the last 3 right at this time of year and imo the smart money is on New Orleans. They'll likely be home in the divisional, are near unstoppable in the superdome (6-0 this year with the closest winning margin 7 points. Atlanta and Carolina coming to town given their road woes will likely make that 8-0.) and the expected week 1 rematch at lambeau could go a lot differently with them wanting revenge and the pack having cooled off somewhat from their early season roll. After that, they would even have the advantage of playing a superbowl in a dome in Indy. In nine Dome games this year Brees is 257/353 for 2931 yds, 29 total tds (1 rush), 5 ints and a passer rating of 117.9 with an 8-1 record.
They also make good underdogs in recent years, and despite being third favourites at 6/1, are underdogs in the sense that they're in the NFC and are not the packers.

The bit in bold is incorrect, they'll likely be at home in the wildcard game and on the road in the divisional game (unless Seattle or St. Louis Beat SF).

I know I'm biased but I like the 49ers chances at home against most teams, Saints included, the way some people are talking the saints and packers are nailed on for the NFC championship game and I disagree with this.

Defence still matters in the NFL and while the saints have been great at home they are not nearly as good on the road, particularly outdoors. Don't forget they got turned over by the 7-9 Seahawks last year.

spiralism

adrian522 wrote: »

The bit in bold is incorrect, they'll likely be at home in the wildcard game and on the road in the divisional game (unless Seattle or St. Louis Beat SF).

I know I'm biased but I like the 49ers chances at home against most teams, Saints included, the way some people are talking the saints and packers are nailed on for the NFC championship game and I disagree with this.

Defence still matters in the NFL and while the saints have been great at home they are not nearly as good on the road, particularly outdoors. Don't forget they got turned over by the 7-9 Seahawks last year.

Seattle on the road is no walkover, especially with them still fighting for their playoff lives while the niners are in good shape regardless. Niners will not be able to keep up with the saints, even on the road, their offence is too good and i dont see them matching it if they go into a 14-0 hole and have to abandon the run

adrian522

spiralism wrote: »

Seattle on the road is no walkover, especially with them still fighting for their playoff lives while the niners are in good shape regardless. Niners will not be able to keep up with the saints, even on the road, their offence is too good and i dont see them matching it if they go into a 14-0 hole and have to abandon the run

I'm not saying its a walkover I'm just pointing out that they are likely to have home field advantage in the divisional round which is a huge difference to playing the saints in the dome. The Saints also have to play the Falcons which is no walkover either.

I don't agree that the Saints are "likely" to be at home in the divisional round though it is a possibility.

Also why would 49ers abandon the run at 14-0 down that doesn't make any sense given their passing attack is so poor.

Pherekydes

spiralism wrote: »

I've got the last 3 right at this time of year and imo the smart money is on New Orleans. They'll likely be home in the divisional, are near unstoppable in the superdome (6-0 this year with the closest winning margin 7 points. Atlanta and Carolina coming to town given their road woes will likely make that 8-0.) and the expected week 1 rematch at lambeau could go a lot differently with them wanting revenge and the pack having cooled off somewhat from their early season roll.

Green Bay in mid-January is not the same as Green Bay in early September. Aaron Rodgers has shown he can handle those conditions. Can Drew Brees?

spiralism

Pherekydes wrote: »

Green Bay in mid-January is not the same as Green Bay in early September. Aaron Rodgers has shown he can handle those conditions. Can Drew Brees?

He hasnt played in Lambeau in mid january though fwiw. I think that the packers having cooled off somewhat as well as the saints motivation for week one revenge could offset that. Should be an epic encounter if it does happen either way.