What to buy 22K to spend

carmad

Hi All.

Need a nice motor, insurance isn't an issue although needs to be diesel.
22,000 to spend maybe 24,000 at a push. I've been looking at brand new
as I'll be a first time buyer so want a decent car under my belt with a warranty.

Been looking at Golf's but by the time you put extras on their nearly BMW money?
Don't want a family car, Kia keep poping into my head because of 7 year warranty but not keen on them. two year old BMW 5 series also came to mind
but could be expensive and short warranty on a used model.

What do you suggest, new Focus looks nice, not sure if its as good as the golf?

rocky

First time buyer? Get a smaller car for less money, a Suzuki Swift for example, you don't want to put dings in your new golf do you?

If you really want new, a Golf Tsi 122bhp or Focus (no idea of the engines here) should be plenty.

I would get the Golf only for the DSG box, prefer the Focus in all other areas - possibly there's a focus with a dual clutch configuration - if you mostly drive in town, an automatic is best.

colm_mcm

You'd get a 2011 seat exeo for your budget, it's basically a previous generation Audi a4 with new type engines

Kearys in cork have a nice one

galwaytt

colm_mcm wrote: »

You'd get a 2011 seat exeo for your budget, it's basically a previous generation Audi a4 with new type engines

Kearys in cork have a nice one

New Ford's on tv ad this eve: 4 years warranty, 4 years roadside cover, 4 years servicing included. . . .I'd buy one.....nicer than Golf imho. . . .

-Corkie-

galwaytt wrote: »

New Ford's on tv ad this eve: 4 years warranty, 4 years roadside cover, 4 years servicing included. . . .I'd buy one.....nicer than Golf imho. . . .

+1 on that. Focus is much nicer than Golf and that offer is very attractive..

bazz26

If you don't need space or extra doors then the Scirocco is a nice option:

http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=201135204205493

http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=201144205322399

More stylish than the conservative Golf too.

fletch

Okay the looks aren't to everyone's tastes but I challenge anyone to find a faster new car for less money than a Skoda Fabia RS
link

166man

This for sure!Great spec on it and good engine under them

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2695851

The Tyre Dude

galwaytt wrote: »

New Ford's on tv ad this eve: 4 years warranty, 4 years roadside cover, 4 years servicing included. . . .I'd buy one.....nicer than Golf imho. . . .

Offer only applies to C-MAX, Mondeo, Kuga, S-MAX or Galaxy.

No Focus I'm afraid.

who_ru

new opel (vauxhall) astra

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/vauxhall/astra-gtc-2011/

galwaytt

The Tyre Dude wrote: »

Offer only applies to C-MAX, Mondeo, Kuga, S-MAX or Galaxy.

No Focus I'm afraid.

...mmm., that's unfortunate: I wonder would they haggle ?

Either way, there are 3 Focus' (Focii ? ) under 22k, and the Zetec is listed at €23,025, so I would expect that would be haggle-able to your 22k budget.....

The KIA Cee'd and Pro-Cee'd have several models, from 3-door, to 5-door to estate, all well below your budget, and that 7-year warranty is very hard to ignore, as well.

polod

-Corkie- wrote: »

+1 on that. Focus is much nicer than Golf and that offer is very attractive..

Are they f***, go for the golf OP you will not regret it when you go to sell it on or trade it in. a golf is one of the best cars out there to hold their money, while the focus will lose a lot more of its value. I traded in a 10 year old golf diesel last year and got €2500 for it, rang the garage up after for the cod and he was looking for €3600 for it :eek: Buts thats VW and Audi's they hold their money .....but most people on here seem to Bash the VAG cars:D

Golf FTW OP

galwaytt

polod wrote: »

Are they f***, go for the golf OP you will not regret it when you go to sell it on or trade it in. a golf is one of the best cars out there to hold their money, while the focus will lose a lot more of its value. I traded in a 10 year old golf diesel last year and got €2500 for it, rang the garage up after for the cod and he was looking for €3600 for it :eek: Buts thats VW and Audi's they hold their money .....but most people on here seem to Bash the VAG cars:D

Golf FTW OP

I'll agree with you if you tell me you've owned both a new gen Ford and VW.

Otherwise.....rant on.....and, no point in having a car that 'holds it's value' if, whilst you own it, you either a) get bored to tears, or, b) get to use their roadside assistance a lot and of course c) pay over the odds for it in the first place.......

polod

galwaytt wrote: »

I'll agree with you if you tell me you've owned both a new gen Ford and VW.

Otherwise.....rant on.....and, no point in having a car that 'holds it's value' if, whilst you own it, you either a) get bored to tears, or, b) get to use their roadside assistance a lot and of course c) pay over the odds for it in the first place.......

No but I have a 2010 golf, but fair point you have made.

Zubeneschamali

polod wrote: »

go for the golf OP you will not regret it when you go to sell it on or trade it in

Yes, you'll be really pleased you bought a Golf the day you get rid of it.

166man

OSI wrote: »

Maybe stretch to a second hand car and get something you'll enjoy for years?

http://cars.donedeal.co.uk/for-sale/cars/2434051

Nice car but wouldn't touch a BMW with those 19 inch wheels on it. Have been reading alot lately of those wheels cracking in the UK and BMW UK having to compensate drivers. Not sure where BMW Ireland stand on the matter. Lovely machine though!

DaveMur1

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2663039

2011 BMW for €18,500 doesn't seem too bad.

Eric Cartman

http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/5-Series/530d-SE-/201126203108921/advert?channel=CARS

Warranty, Diesel, Nice to look at, Not some tiny engined shítheap , RWD, fun, perfect

dagerman

Think of the environment and buy a hybrid or electro car.

mikofo

166man wrote: »

Nice car but wouldn't touch a BMW with those 19 inch wheels on it. Have been reading alot lately of those wheels cracking in the UK and BMW UK having to compensate drivers. Not sure where BMW Ireland stand on the matter. Lovely machine though!

dont be too confident that VW will look after you either, if you go for a vw:o
vw are to motoring what Ryanair are to flying

Eric Cartman

dagerman wrote: »

Think of the environment and buy a hybrid or electro car.

i doubt your serious , but even if you were this is the wrong place for that kind of talk

dagerman

Eric Cartman wrote: »

i doubt your serious , but even if you were this is the wrong place for that kind of talk

Carzone.ie: Toyota Prius NG 1.8 LUXURY 5DR AUTO €22,950

Nice car and they are fun to drive. Have you ever? It's so weird when you don't hear the engine and that thing drives off...

And hey, it's not that awkward to do something for the environment.

dagerman

dagerman wrote: »

And hey, it's not that awkward to do something for the environment.

It is if it means driving a horrible looking, over priced not so economical Prius.

Walking would be more fun and would be of much more benefit to the environment.

Alanstrainor

dagerman wrote: »

Carzone.ie: Toyota Prius NG 1.8 LUXURY 5DR AUTO €22,950

Nice car and they are fun to drive. Have you ever? It's so weird when you don't hear the engine and that thing drives off...

And hey, it's not that awkward to do something for the environment.

If you want to start a discussion on the wonders of a prius you can start your own thread. You've made your suggestion so lets leave it there.

mark renton

Alanstrainor wrote: »

If you want to start a discussion on the wonders of a prius you can start your own thread. You've made your suggestion so lets leave it there.

was there really a need for the bold there?? nearly after taking the eyes outta me head

Graham_B18C

Eric Cartman wrote: »

http://www.carzone.ie/search/BMW/5-Series/530d-SE-/201126203108921/advert?channel=CARS

Warranty, Diesel, Nice to look at, Not some tiny engined shítheap , RWD, fun, perfect

They're a first time buyer and they want a new car, you suggested an (almost) 5 year old 3L 5 series. It's fair enough that you like big engines but not everyone else has the need for it. I'd take plenty of smaller engined cars over that BMW

heate

That 530d is €1293 to tax I doubt the OP was headed that way!
Why are peope anti golf I drove a rental new one recently like I stole it and found it quite good for a hatch.
The interior was nicely finished and the engine was quiet on the motorway.
As for pricing it up to BMW prices - if you're buying new you'll never recover the price of extras by a mid level model in a normal cover and it will hold its value relatively well.

galwaytt

heate wrote: »

That 530d is €1293 to tax I doubt the OP was headed that way!
Why are peope anti golf I drove a rental new one recently like I stole it and found it quite good for a hatch.
The interior was nicely finished and the engine was quiet on the motorway.
As for pricing it up to BMW prices - if you're buying new you'll never recover the price of extras by a mid level model in a normal cover and it will hold its value relatively well.

I agree they're nice to drive. And there is something to the 'sounds like a VW' door clunk, even.
But you got to give it back, and not own it. Huge difference.

Squall19

Alfa Romeo Giulietta 2.0 Diesel 170BHP



Shouldn't be a problem getting it for 25k next year.

heate

galwaytt wrote: »

heate wrote: »

That 530d is €1293 to tax I doubt the OP was headed that way!
Why are peope anti golf I drove a rental new one recently like I stole it and found it quite good for a hatch.
The interior was nicely finished and the engine was quiet on the motorway.
As for pricing it up to BMW prices - if you're buying new you'll never recover the price of extras by a mid level model in a normal cover and it will hold its value relatively well.

I agree they're nice to drive. And there is something to the 'sounds like a VW' door clunk, even.
But you got to give it back, and not own it. Huge difference.

It wouldn't be big enough or rwd enough for me but their is a good air of quality and I can't see why it would be unreliable or trouble to own.

I think for every 1000 owners there may be one owner with an issue which you see cropping up on boards.ie but VW is Ireland best selling car and has been for quite a while.
There are many 1000's of satisfied customers out there and I know plenty of people who would swear by their golf as classless reliable transport.

As for more modern VW's with DPF's give the car a good blast now and again as I would with any automobile!

Blazer

Bought a nissan primera brand new back in 2005 and I think the novelty only lasted a few days. Great car though, never had a spot of bother with it but just boring and a lack of poke at low end gears due to it's weight.
Changed it a few months ago and got a 07 BMW 520D and absolutely love driving it. It came with a 2 year warranty so I've peace of mind for 2 years and it's a fantastic car, nice bit of poke compared to my last car and perfect for passing those pesky 80kph drivers
Go for black or silver...looks way nice especially in black.

Marcin_diy

First time buyer?
I personally wouldn't buy anything new - get an older second hand money, learn to drive, operate clutch and all that stuff - no point to waste your money if you are not a good driver.
Drive it for a year, sell and then get a good brand new car. - you will have it for years, so whats the point to have a car that newbie used learnt to drive before.

You can also get a focues 2011 - with very low mileage for less than 17k. Seat Leon - 18k . Golf - 19k all diesels.

barura

I might be losing my mind a little, but somethng really high class? http://www.carzone.ie/search/Maserati/Quattroporte/F.S.H./201139204757073/advert?channel=CARS

I'm sure you could haggle them down to 17/18k, sinc it will be hard for them to sell in these times. Drive around like a king!

Okay, it's early, nevermind...

IrishZeus

From the OP's post, seems to be a first time buyer rather than a first time driver....

166man

barura wrote: »

I might be losing my mind a little, but somethng really high class? http://www.carzone.ie/search/Maserati/Quattroporte/F.S.H./201139204757073/advert?channel=CARS

I'm sure you could haggle them down to 17/18k, sinc it will be hard for them to sell in these times. Drive around like a king!

Okay, it's early, nevermind...

Top suggestion! Shouldn't be too bad depreciation wise etc, how much more money could it lose if you got if for €20k. A V8 Maserati will always be worth something. And you get to drive around like a BOSS instead of some Ford with 90bhp that will lose a huge amount of money over the first 2 years.

It's also never too early to suggest a Maserati.:D

barura

barura wrote: »

I might be losing my mind a little, but somethng really high class? http://www.carzone.ie/search/Maserati/Quattroporte/F.S.H./201139204757073/advert?channel=CARS

I'm sure you could haggle them down to 17/18k, sinc it will be hard for them to sell in these times. Drive around like a king!

Okay, it's early, nevermind...

The op mentioned he wanted a diesel presumably for economy, dont see how this fits in to be honest.

The worst of the depreciation might be out of the way but the servicing and running costs will go a long way to making up the difference.

Jimmy Bottlehead

john47832 wrote: »

was there really a need for the bold there?? nearly after taking the eyes outta me head

:pac:

munchkin_utd

heate wrote: »

........ VW is Ireland best selling car and has been for quite a while.

There are many 1000's of satisfied customers out there and I know plenty of people who would swear by their golf as classless reliable transport.

As for more modern VW's with DPF's give the car a good blast now and again as I would with any automobile!

its news to me that VW are the best selling brand in Ireland.

Heres the SIMI stats for the past 10 years.
http://www.simi.ie/statistics/national_vehicle_statistics.aspx

I didnt have time to go through all the years, but of the ones i looked at by random Toyota and Ford are ahead of VW in the sales (in 08 Toyota sold almost 50% more than VW) which confirms what I remember from various new items over the years.
Never once remember hearing VW as the leading brand.

I really like VWs myself but they are overpriced and are NOT the best selling car maker in Ireland.

Tea 1000

heate wrote: »

It wouldn't be big enough or rwd enough for me but their is a good air of quality and I can't see why it would be unreliable or trouble to own.

I think for every 1000 owners there may be one owner with an issue which you see cropping up on boards.ie but VW is Ireland best selling car and has been for quite a while.
There are many 1000's of satisfied customers out there and I know plenty of people who would swear by their golf as classless reliable transport.

As for more modern VW's with DPF's give the car a good blast now and again as I would with any automobile!

And I know many Golf owners who've had their Golf back at the dealer's many times, but would still swear by their reliability. There's no glasses like Rose tinted VW glasses!!

unkel

munchkin_utd wrote: »

I really like VWs myself but they are overpriced and are NOT the best selling car maker in Ireland.

There's very little in it this year. Toyota is 1, VW is 2 and then after a gap, Ford is 3...

EPM

unkel wrote: »

There's very little in it this year. Toyota is 1, VW is 2 and then after a gap, Ford is 3...

Amazing what a clock from the 2 euro shop glued to the dash of a passat can do for sales...

munchkin_utd

unkel wrote: »

There's very little in it this year. Toyota is 1, VW is 2 and then after a gap, Ford is 3...

indeed, but the statement I am pulling up is : "VW is Ireland best selling car and has been for quite a while."

It isnt the best selling, not this year and not any year. And certainly not for a series of years either.

VWs are solid cars, but it still hasnt made the brand the best seller in Ireland !!

Raskolnikov

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2706194

Mercedes E220 CDI?

Marcusm

barura wrote: »

I might be losing my mind a little, but somethng really high class? http://www.carzone.ie/search/Maserati/Quattroporte/F.S.H./201139204757073/advert?channel=CARS

I'm sure you could haggle them down to 17/18k, sinc it will be hard for them to sell in these times. Drive around like a king!

Okay, it's early, nevermind...

Needs to have a crema or bianco interior or it's not worth buying.....