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Tractor trouble

  • 14-11-2011 9:56pm
    #1
    sea12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,244 ✭✭✭


    My tractor was giving trouble starting lately. Battery seemed to go flat. Wouldn't turn over. However when I jumped lead it, it started no problem.
    Anyway couldnt keep at that so Bought a new battery. Put it in this evening but it was like a dead battery for a few turns before it cranked up.
    I thought It would be ok once it warmed up but same thing again a few mins later. I can sort of hear the starter clicking.

    I presume its the starter gone or would it just be the connection from the battery to the starter.

    Secondly if its the starter, is it cheaper to buy a new one these days or get it reconditioned.

    Thanks


Comments

  • #2
    reilig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    sea12 wrote: »
    My tractor was giving trouble starting lately. Battery seemed to go flat. Wouldn't turn over. However when I jumped lead it, it started no problem.
    Anyway couldnt keep at that so Bought a new battery. Put it in this evening but it was like a dead battery for a few turns before it cranked up.
    I thought It would be ok once it warmed up but same thing again a few mins later. I can sort of hear the starter clicking.

    I presume its the starter gone or would it just be the connection from the battery to the starter.

    Secondly if its the starter, is it cheaper to buy a new one these days or get it reconditioned.

    Thanks

    Most likely the starter. I got one reconditioned a few weeks back for Eur 50. Could be just the solenoid on the starter either.

    Much cheaper to get it reconditioned.


  • #3
    jeff greene
    Closed Accounts Posts: 733 ✭✭✭jeff greene


    Sounds like loose connection somewhere to me


  • #4
    snowman707
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭snowman707


    I would check the connection leads

    check in particular the earth lead to the chassis of the tractor

    corrosion can build up inside the connectors as well as outside

    I also double check the simple things before getting out the spanners ( and/ or the cheque book)


  • #5
    johnayo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭johnayo


    It may well be the starter, but it's worth eliminating the basics first. Im sure you will have cleaned the battery connections when you were fitting the battery, and also that they are tight. Check the earth lead where it is connected to the engine. It needs to be clean and tight. Check the connections to the starter, and again clean and tight. It would also be better to check all these with a multi meter.


  • #6
    sea12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,244 ✭✭✭sea12


    Thanks for replies.
    it will have to wait until Saturday morning. Its too late by the time I get home from work these evenings.
    Will try all the basics before I go at the starter.
    I remember changing one on a MF 135 years ago. It was a simple enough Job.
    Not so sure with my present one MF362.
    Anyone know is it difficult to remove?
    Cheers.


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  • #7
    valtra8150
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭valtra8150


    how did you get on and ya johnayo is right check all the wires first that happened me durning the summer in my landini 10000s was dumptrailering in and out gap and bush must of done something and when i went to start it she wouldnt go i didnt know what to do so i just checked alll connections. connection to starter was pulled out


  • #8
    BeeDI
    Closed Accounts Posts: 805 ✭✭✭BeeDI


    valtra8150 wrote: »
    how did you get on and ya johnayo is right check all the wires first that happened me durning the summer in my landini 10000s was dumptrailering in and out gap and bush must of done something and when i went to start it she wouldnt go i didnt know what to do so i just checked alll connections. connection to starter was pulled out


    What's that in English?


  • #9
    charityboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 258 ✭✭charityboy


    BeeDI wrote: »
    What's that in English?
    its exactly what it says it is,wish we were all perfect like you


  • #10
    pakalasa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭pakalasa


    We always had ongoing trouble like that on our tractor. Starter would only be clicking etc. I went away and got a good heavy welding cable made up, with proper crimped lugs on the end. It worked a treat.
    I don't even disconnect the battery now if I have to charge it, say in very cold weather. I find that even if you open the connections on the battery, they give trouble. ;)


  • #11
    johnpawl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭johnpawl


    If its more a whirring sound off the starter its prob the bendix slipping off the ring gear, so teeth on the bendix are worn and it needs to be replaced. If its a single click, more likely loose connection as already stated, in my opinion. Eliminating these, I would look at the solenoid switch.


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  • #12
    sea12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,244 ✭✭✭sea12


    [Q

    Well I checked all the connections and although some looked a bit dirty they were all ok. Its was more a flat battery sound on Saturday. Like there was no power coming from the battery. Anyway jump charged it off the car and after a few goes she started no problem.
    Did a bit of work with it and she she was fine.
    Anyway couldn't chance it being like that for the whole winter so brought it to a mechanic up the road for home to take a look at it and another slight issue unrelated.
    Will get it back tomorrow so will find out then.


  • #13
    k mac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭k mac


    Having the exact same problem just a clicking sound when trying to start. Just put in a new battery and new pole on the positive. Only problem i have is where the connection is to the chassis it is very hard to get at i would have to take off panels to get at it. If it started with jump leads or a pull would that mean it is a connection problem ?


  • #14
    yellow50HX
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭yellow50HX


    k mac wrote: »
    Having the exact same problem just a clicking sound when trying to start. Just put in a new battery and new pole on the positive. Only problem i have is where the connection is to the chassis it is very hard to get at i would have to take off panels to get at it. If it started with jump leads or a pull would that mean it is a connection problem ?

    Check your connections 1st
    If its starting ok give the jumper cables then its your alternator not charging the battery. If its still clicking then its probably the starter, a lot of the new Lucas starters are a bit rubbish nowadays. We put in a high speed iska starter last year, fantastic.


  • #15
    tomo75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭tomo75


    k mac wrote: »
    Having the exact same problem just a clicking sound when trying to start. Just put in a new battery and new pole on the positive. Only problem i have is where the connection is to the chassis it is very hard to get at i would have to take off panels to get at it. If it started with jump leads or a pull would that mean it is a connection problem ?

    If you think it's the -ve pole/connection, get a jump lead from chassis/ground to the -ve pole. This should eliminate the -ve side of the loop.


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