One site detailing all government income and expenditure?

Moriarty

Is there a single site somewhere that details all government income and expenditure by any chance? I've never come across one, but it could be mighty interesting.

I'm thinking specifically about a site that lets you pick 'income' or 'expenditure', which gives you overall totals, then splitting it down by department, sub-department and all the way down to how much each individual program costs, year by year.

I'm guessing nothing like this exists as it'd make it far too easy to spot money that's been ... less than ideally spent, shall we say.. but it would seem to be a pretty basic request to know how much everything costs or earns, no?

nesf

The data is available, well most of it, it escapes me right now what site it is though. Possible the Department of Finance website.

antoobrien

Moriarty wrote: »

Is there a single site somewhere that details all government income and expenditure by any chance? I've never come across one, but it could be mighty interesting.

I'm thinking specifically about a site that lets you pick 'income' or 'expenditure', which gives you overall totals, then splitting it down by department, sub-department and all the way down to how much each individual program costs, year by year.

I don't know if you can get to the programme level (haven't tried), but the department level figures are published monthly on the department of finance website as part of the exchequer statements.

Riskymove

Moriarty wrote: »

I'm guessing nothing like this exists as it'd make it far too easy to spot money that's been ... less than ideally spent, shall we say.. but it would seem to be a pretty basic request to know how much everything costs or earns, no?

The information exists as others have said, but usually in pdf or similar

I am not aware of an interactive website like you are talking about

AnCatDubh

One that might be of interest is the PER databank which has expenditure at vote/vote group level ( current and history ) .

spank_inferno

Those links are very interesting.

So, for 2011 the targeted tax take will be just shy of €35 billion.
The 2011 Expenditure will be approx €57.5 billion.

So for 2011 we will have a government budget deficit of €22 billion.

Irelands expenditure will be 64% higher than its income in 2011 alone

The scale of this task is frankly enormous!

And I assume these figures exclude payments to the banks and/or Nama.

Riskymove

spank_inferno wrote: »

And I assume these figures exclude payments to the banks and/or Nama.

Thankfully (in a weird way) the Bank figures are now included, thanks to the ECB's insistence

therefore this year's deficit has been skewed by the payments to Banks

In previous discussions I think the cost of the banks was around €10bn

so the actual deficit for futue year's reference is around €12bn or so...still some work to come but a lot better than €22bn

antoobrien

spank_inferno wrote: »

And I assume these figures exclude payments to the banks and/or Nama.

The payments made so far to NAMA are actually relatively speaking quite small (and AFAIK have been repaid).

IIRC the funding model for NAMA is to issue ECB bonds to pay the banks and pay for these using property sales. I don't believe there is due to be any intervention for government until the end of the process and then only in the case that NAA don't break even or better.