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Who the F**K are the markets?

  • 09-11-2011 7:24pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭nimrod86


    You hear on the telly and the radio that such and such are happening to various economy's and that the markets say this or are doing that. So the whole world is collapsing and these market people seem to be sitting there with the power to topple countries! WHO ARE THEY!!!

    Also, at this stage, with the whole world basically f**ked, would doing, in effect, a system restore so speak with the debts and stuf be a good idea? Put it back to 2004 -2005 when everything was relatively less screwed?

    nim


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Just a bunch of lads.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Just a bunch of lads.

    A great bunch of lads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭Full.Duck




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,828 ✭✭✭stimpson




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭nimrod86


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Just a bunch of lads.
    That's what I don't understand though! Why do a few lads in an office get to control the fate of Europe by picking numbers out of their holes?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    nimrod86 wrote: »
    That's what I don't understand though! Why do a few lads in an office get to control the fate of Europe by picking numbers out of their holes?

    because everything is for sale in a free market system


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Aldi


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Just a few guys selling copy DVDs out of the boot of their cars.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 731 ✭✭✭inmyday


    Never mind the markets... Who are the BONDHOLDERS???

    I just dont understand!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    Reboot world

    [YES] [NO]



    Rebooting world..........


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  • Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭ Lochlan Refined Teaspoonful


    nimrod86 wrote: »
    You hear on the telly and the radio that such and such are happening to various economy's and that the markets say this or are doing that. So the whole world is collapsing and these market people seem to be sitting there with the power to topple countries! WHO ARE THEY!!!

    Also, at this stage, with the whole world basically f**ked, would doing, in effect, a system restore so speak with the debts and stuf be a good idea? Put it back to 2004 -2005 when everything was relatively less screwed?

    nim
    They are the people that buy government debt using mostly private individuals money, the government pay intrest to them for buying their debt but the markets have decided Italy might not be able to pay them back if they lend the money,so they are demanding more intrest if they lend it to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭Pure Sound


    The markets from what I can gather are the statistics of us the consumers spending, so we are the markets


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    mikom wrote: »
    A great bunch of lads.

    That's the Chinese you're thinking of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭Full.Duck


    Ruu wrote: »
    Reboot world

    [YES] [NO]



    Rebooting world..........

    YES

    Y..... I only have to press Y, i just tripled my productivity


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭HellFireClub


    yore ma's on the market


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 523 ✭✭✭coonecb1


    The markets are 23 year olds fresh out of business schools, whose only emotions consist of greed and fear.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭parker kent


    The markets from what I can gather are the statistics of us the consumers spending, so we are the markets

    The end of the horror movie when you finally see the monster and the character realises they are looking in a mirror :eek::eek::eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭al28283


    The end of the horror movie when you finally see the monster and realise you are looking in a mirror :eek::eek::eek:

    Why would you watch a horror movie in a mirror?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    I care more about what their end game is

    Do these parasites want the global financial system to completely collapse?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    Where you buy and sell stuff and that is exactly what they are.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭thee glitz


    'The markets' are hedge funds, lads and girls whose collective speculative investment decisions can influence stock and bond prices, causing chaos in the pursuit of a quick buck. Or less cynically, those who allocate capital efficiently in accordance to relative merit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭AhSureTisGrand


    The markets are the people you blame for shit you done wrong.

    "My shares in Anglo Irish went down. It's the markets I say!"

    "Dear citizens, I appear to have squandered all your money on cocaine and timeshares in Florida. You now owe more money than I can count accurately... Damned markets. Last time I trust them. I knew it was the markets. Even when it was the bears I knew it was the markets"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭parker kent


    al28283 wrote: »
    Why would you watch a horror movie in a mirror?

    That was a typo and also post half written and interrupted by a phone call. Surely it was obvious from the rest of my post that I was talking about the character in the movie?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    watch wall street the movie, it'll give you an idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Caveman1


    Compare the meeeerrrkkaaattt.com


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 959 ✭✭✭kwalshe


    its the 2 boys from trading places with all their pork belly speculation that's wrecking "the markets"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,013 ✭✭✭kincsem


    People in stripey coloured blazers shouting at each other?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,202 ✭✭✭amacca


    al28283 wrote: »
    Why would you watch a horror movie in a mirror?

    why not?..................go on try it, you might like it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭Tandey


    More importantly who is it that has the power to make the worlds money? Who produces the euro notes and why cant they just make a few trillion more and put it in our bank so we can all be rich fucker$??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭al28283


    amacca wrote: »
    why not?..................go on try it, you might like it.

    It'd ruin the shining. Why is that kid writing murder everywhere?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,202 ✭✭✭amacca


    Tandey wrote: »
    More importantly who is it that has the power to make the worlds money? Who produces the euro notes and why cant they just make a few trillion more and put it in our bank so we can all be rich fucker$??

    I like your manifesto....lets put it to the testo!


    (google hyperinflation in the weimar republic to see the error of your ways - ironically what you suggest will probably happen /has happened to an extent - they have a new phrase for it called quantitative easing as if you could ever hope to quantify peoples capacity or fear or losing faith in a currency)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,202 ✭✭✭amacca


    al28283 wrote: »
    It'd ruin the shining. Why is that kid writing murder everywhere?

    granted....but just avoid the horror films that involve backwards/reverse writing......its not that much of a price to pay for hours of mirror enhanced viewing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    When a country (like Ireland) wants to borrow money, they borrow from the bond markets. Most of the bond markets consist of large insurance and pension companies who are trying to invest their clients money.

    Quite rightly, these companies don't want to lose their clients money, so they ask for a high rate of interest if they think they might not get their money back. Often, they won't lend to a country at all if there is too much risk. And rightly so.

    Hurling accusations at "the markets" is an easy way for politicians to blame someone else for them being unable to balance the countries books.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    The markets are just people. You can be a part of them if you have the money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    They're cousins of the bankers, and nephews of the guberment.. and they live next door to Big Pharma.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 914 ✭✭✭tommyboy2222




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭Pal


    kincsem wrote: »
    People in stripey coloured blazers shouting at each other?

    We don't shout. That's only in the movies.
    We don't even shout on the phone.
    Hell you can't even shout at somebody in the office anymore.

    The blokes with the stripey jackets (locals) are old hat too except for a token few remaining in NY and Chicago for reasons of nostalgia.
    Agree they might look good on the TV news but the fact is they don't do much of anything else.

    Its very cynical.
    "The markets" are real people who use keyboards to wreck the world.

    These "markets" really don't care about wrecking everything. That's just a consequence.
    Making money is the only reason they exist. Or in some cases, not losing money.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭Absurdum


    The "markets" are the reason we need guns, explosives and lots of canned food.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    OP watch this on channel4od and the rest in the series for related stuff


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    Isn't it true that much of the markets run semi-automatically on the back on complex software that buy and sell at defined price points? Fairly sure I saw something about that being some of the cause of the 2008 crash's severity on a BBC2 show a few months back... it's also a case that banks and large investment firms are recruiting code programmers and engineers rather than people coming from a purely business education background.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,398 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    I am the markets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭boombang


    The market represent reality. You can't run your economy foolishly and expect to get away with it. The market is amoral and unforgiving. But we knew the market was there in the first place and what would happen if we screwed stuff up, yet we still screwed stuff up. I think you should direct your questions to politicians, regulators and bankers that remain in their jobs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Seem a bit of a schizophrenic bunch to me.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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