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Signing a contract under protest

  • 08-11-2011 9:08pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 731 ✭✭✭


    Hey lads,

    Anyone know definitively how to sign a contract under protest with the right to appeal the terms of the contract in the future. I was given the advice just to write 'i am signing this under protest'

    Anyone any experience on the legality of this statement and whether it makes the contract binding or not?

    I did google it but there aint much info to be honest


    cheers


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭Delancey


    Funnily enough I'm just reading up on the very basics of Contract Law , acording to what I am reading a Contract must be made with real consent , this means duress or undue pressure may render it void.
    I think it unusual for a person to be told to sign ' under protest ' and would be very cautious about entering into any sort of relationship with someone who seeks to address concerns in this way.

    More learned people here will know for sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 269 ✭✭chopser


    Trhiggy83 wrote: »
    Hey lads,

    Anyone know definitively how to sign a contract under protest with the right to appeal the terms of the contract in the future. I was given the advice just to write 'i am signing this under protest'

    Anyone any experience on the legality of this statement and whether it makes the contract binding or not?

    I did google it but there aint much info to be honest


    cheers

    why ask a question about law on this site when you are following the advice of Freemen believers?
    They are the ones who recommend signing contracts this way. 'i am signing this under protest'

    If you believe that the legal system doesn't apply to you then why ask questions about it?

    You should go back to the Freeman website you read that on and ask them how they worded it and how successfully it has worked out for them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭Delancey


    Had I known the OP revolved around Freeman Bullsh1t I wouldn't have bothered my arse replying :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    If you arent happy, dont sign. If they have a gun to your head and you are forced to sign, it shouldnt stand up in court.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭twowheelsonly


    Are you a grown up???

    1 : Read Contract

    2a : Happy with contract, sign it.

    2b : Not happy with Contract, don't sign it.

    It's not that complicated.

    If I was trying to do some sort of deal with you and you signed it like that I'd tear it up or burn it in front of you. A contract is usually to provide some level of protection for all involved parties and signing it like that will either nullify the contract or nullify my protection depending on what humour the Judge is in when it all goes tits up!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Trhiggy83


    chopser wrote: »
    Trhiggy83 wrote: »
    Hey lads,
    Anyone know definitively how to sign a contract under protest with the right to appeal the terms of the contract in the future. I was given the advice just to write 'i am signing this under protest'
    Anyone any experience on the legality of this statement and whether it makes the contract binding or not? I did google it but there aint much info to be honest
    cheers
    why ask a question about law on this site when you are following the advice of Freemen believers?
    They are the ones who recommend signing contracts this way. 'i am signing this under protest'
    If you believe that the legal system doesn't apply to you then why ask questions about it?
    You should go back to the Freeman website you read that on and ask them how they worded it and how successfully it has worked out for them.
    What are you on about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Trhiggy83


    Delancey wrote: »
    Had I known the OP revolved around Freeman Bullsh1t I wouldn't have bothered my arse replying :mad:

    Dont believe everything you read, op put 2 and 2 together and got 5


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 269 ✭✭chopser


    Trhiggy83 wrote: »
    What are you on about.


    I am saying that any further advice you require should be asked of that same fine fellow who advised you to write 'i am signing this under protest,

    or take the advice of twowheelsonly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,381 ✭✭✭✭Paulw


    1 : Read Contract

    2a : Happy with contract, sign it.

    2b : Not happy with Contract, don't sign it.

    It's not that complicated.

    Simple as that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    Aren't the 3 requirements for a legally binding contract:

    Offer
    Consideration
    Acceptance

    If you've been offered a contract, considered it, and then ACCEPTED, you my friend, are bound to the terms of the contract. (providing the contract itself is legal of course).

    The key word is ACCEPTANCE.

    You cannot 'sort of' accept a contract. Or accept it until such a time as you don't agree with it any more.

    It is really fairly simple when you get to the nuts and bolts of it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 476 ✭✭jblack


    Offer + Acceptance = Agreement

    Agreement + Consideration= Contract
    also required are other factors such as certainty of terms, Intention to create legal relations etc.


    It depends on what under protest means. If there's a gun to your head then its obviously under duress. If its because you don't like the fact that a bank are renegotiating terms after default etc then probably tough sh1*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Trhiggy83 wrote: »
    Anyone know definitively how to sign a contract under protest with the right to appeal the terms of the contract in the future.
    As said, there is no such way to sign a contract. You're either happy with it, or you're not. If you're not, don't sign it.

    Nobody is holding a gun to your head to sign it, so there's never any good reason why someone would sign a contract under protest.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    seamus wrote: »
    Trhiggy83 wrote: »
    Anyone know definitively how to sign a contract under protest with the right to appeal the terms of the contract in the future.
    As said, there is no such way to sign a contract. You're either happy with it, or you're not. If you're not, don't sign it.

    Nobody is holding a gun to your head to sign it, so there's never any good reason why someone would sign a contract under protest.


    There is an old tradition of putting V.C. after signing your name to show that you were coerced (vi coactus).

    However, that is only relevant to testamentary documents signed before someone is executed or assasinated and is not of much use to the op.

    It does not invalidate the document, but merely alerts people to the possibility that it was coerced.


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