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Closed or Open Source Linux Satellite System

  • 08-11-2011 7:43pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 401 ✭✭


    Hello Looking for some advice....

    Which is better/reliable/has a longer term future? Closed Source Linus Satellite system like a spiderbox 9900HD or open source like VU+Duo?

    Also can anyone recommend a reputable supplier in the Galway region who won't screw a newbie?

    Thanks a mil in advance?:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,015 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    Open source is way better .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 401 ✭✭rco2000


    Zardoz wrote: »
    Open source is way better .

    Please explain why - is it the better support community?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,015 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    rco2000 wrote: »
    Please explain why - is it the better support community?
    Yes much better support.
    Support for dreamboxes ,even old receivers like the Dm500 is still very strong.
    The Vu receivers also have good support.
    Without a wide support base a receiver is limited.
    Saying that there are some closed source receivers with good support too,the Opticum 403x has excellent support ,but alot of closed source units have extremely limited support .
    Good hardware is of little use without decent support.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭Robxxx7


    I echo that ... Open source is the way to go

    Have a look at the ET9000 as well better hardware than the VU Duo and about the same price.

    The trouble with some closed source receivers are that you are relying on patches etc and although they are generally available they are generally dependent on one person or one team.

    With open source receivers you can generally rely upon 5 or 6 different teams providing updates,firmware etc ..

    At the end of the day it will all depend on what you want to get our of your receiver and what your expectations are ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 401 ✭✭rco2000


    Thanks lads for that advice. Open source it is.

    Any links to Irish suppliers of these boxes & especially the satellite dishes (thinking I need 1.1m + & like look of Triax TD110)?
    UK suppliers prices look very competitive but prob won't ship large satellites overseas?
    Thanks again


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭Robxxx7


    http://www.sat-shop.co.uk

    I've used this place in the past to ship stuff over here and never had any problems and find them to be very good .. although they are not Irish based.
    For the receiver i'm pretty sure its Europe wide free delivery but you can drop them an email and ask

    as far as Irish shops you could try http://www.satboxes.com/shop/ never used them myself but a few people on here have. Just bear in mind that their dreamboxes are clones rather than genuine, hence the price of them but it could be an option


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 401 ✭✭rco2000


    Robxxx7 wrote: »
    http://www.sat-shop.co.uk

    I've used this place in the past to ship stuff over here and never had any problems and find them to be very good .. although they are not Irish based.
    For the receiver i'm pretty sure its Europe wide free delivery but you can drop them an email and ask

    as far as Irish shops you could try http://www.satboxes.com/shop/ never used them myself but a few people on here have. Just bear in mind that their dreamboxes are clones rather than genuine, hence the price of them but it could be an option

    Thanks.

    Sat boxes don't sell dishes?

    Sat-Shop won't ship large satellites to Ireland :(

    I like the look of the VU+DUO but it's expensive


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭Robxxx7


    Ebay is worth a look as well regarding dishes ..I've had 1m dishes delivered from Germany with no problem...

    Regarding receiver it depends on whether you want Twin tuner, single tuner etc ?
    Single tuner boxes such as Xtrend ET5000, Vu Uno , Dreambox Clone (although you can only use firmware specific to clones)

    Twin Tuner Xtrend/CT ET9000/9100, Vu Duo etc ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,157 ✭✭✭Compton


    satworld.ie have the triax 110 I think its around 90 quid or something.

    Get a wavefrontier, they are a serious dish!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,015 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    shblob wrote: »

    Get a wavefrontier, they are a serious dish!
    Serious weight too,only suitable for ground mounting in the Irish climate.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,157 ✭✭✭Compton


    Not true at all, my mate has one on a T&K bracket and its fine.. Hasn't moved in over 2 years for a re-alignment either.,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭asif2011


    HM-Sat in Germany have a cheap TD110 and they do the Wavefrontier T90 as well - links below

    http://www.hm-sat-shop.de/en/antennen-triax/triax-tds-110-stahl-antenne-antrazit.html

    http://www.hm-sat-shop.de/en/antennen-wavefrontier/wave-toroidal-t90-p.html

    They are cheap for LNBs and VU+ Duo's too. Shipping is with DHL or UPS and is €19 or €24 depending on who you use + 4% of the total goods. Can't beat it as far I can see.

    If you can't make out some of the descriptions use Google Translate, just paste the URL in and hit tanslate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 401 ✭✭rco2000


    Zardoz wrote: »
    Serious weight too,only suitable for ground mounting in the Irish climate.



    LOOKS A SERIOUS BIT OF KIT ALL RIGHT.......

    http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Wave-Frontier-90cm-Dish-up-sixteen-LNBs-/160551053876?pt=UK_ConEle_SatCableFreeview_RL&hash=item256196aa34#ht_5465wt_952


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭asif2011


    They use a 60mm pole mount which is a little hard to find but HM-Sat have a wall mount which should do the job. Or you could use a T&K bracket like shblob has said.

    http://www.hm-sat-shop.de/en/montage-zubehoer-wand-dach-montage/wandhalter-standfuss-stahl-i-f1-t90.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 401 ✭✭rco2000


    rco2000 wrote: »


    Above though is not an aluminium satellite = rust in 5/6 years
    I see they have some big spec aluminium satellites which are much more weather proof


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭asif2011


    rco2000 wrote: »
    Above though is not an aluminium satellite = rust in 5/6 years
    I see they have some big spec aluminium satellites which are much more weather proof
    Sounds like you want a Gibertini instead so...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,015 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    shblob wrote: »
    Not true at all, my mate has one on a T&K bracket and its fine.. Hasn't moved in over 2 years for a re-alignment either.,
    Most T90 owners I have spoken to ,and I have spoken to alot of them;),recommend a ground mount or a wall mount in a sheltered spot.
    I'd love to get one but the weight is putting me off.

    That said,a Triax 1.1m is 11kg in weight ,the T90 is only an extra 3kg ,my old aluminium Gibertini 1m was only 7kg .
    Sounds like you want a Gibertini instead so...
    Gibertini dish is aluminium so wont rust but the bracket on the back is steel so will rust slightly but nobody will see that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭flutered


    there are usually a few for sale over on adverts.ie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,157 ✭✭✭Compton


    Zardoz wrote: »
    Most T90 owners I have spoken to ,and I have spoken to alot of them;),recommend a ground mount or a wall mount in a sheltered spot.
    I'd love to get one but the weight is putting me off.

    That said,a Triax 1.1m is 11kg in weight ,the T90 is only an extra 3kg ,my old aluminium Gibertini 1m was only 7kg .


    Gibertini dish is aluminium so wont rust but the bracket on the back is steel so will rust slightly but nobody will see that
    gilbertini gear is pretty overpriced stuff from what I can remember, can't really go wrong with a td110 and multiblock though, cheap and cheerful


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,015 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    shblob wrote: »
    gilbertini gear is pretty overpriced stuff from what I can remember, can't really go wrong with a td110 and multiblock though, cheap and cheerful
    There actually isnt much difference price wise between Gibertini and Triax .
    Gibertini is lighter and also has better elevation adjustment .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭Robxxx7


    Also bear in mind that if you are fitting a diseqc motor then the heaviness of the dish could have an impact over time. A few years ago i was waying up whether to go for the triax or a 1m funke dish ... went for the funke as it was aluminium and is extremely light .... both dish and motor still in operation without problem after about 5 years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 401 ✭✭rco2000


    Hey folks! Another question re Open V Closed Source................
    Do you have to be continuously connected to the internet to receive the satellite channels when using:
    A. Open Source
    B. Closed Source
    And if so, then why?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭Robxxx7


    rco2000 wrote: »
    Hey folks! Another question re Open V Closed Source................
    Do you have to be continuously connected to the internet to receive the satellite channels when using:
    A. Open Source
    B. Closed Source
    And if so, then why?
    FTA channels and those channels where you have an official subscription card do not require the use of the internet.
    Other methods of getting channels means you need the internet.But discussion about this is outside the rules


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