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Pulling out on a hill

  • 07-11-2011 4:15pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭


    Just wondering is this the correct procedure for pulling out on a hill? Just want to clarify it. Basically, get into first gear, pull up the handbrake, button pressed in, (mirror signal observation) go when clear whilst clutch up a bit, pressing down the accelerator down a bit with a bit more gas once you get to biting point and you feel the car pulling forward you let the handbrake go down (stops it from rolling back).

    Is the manoeuvre/procedure the correct way for pulling out on a hill?

    Thanks in advance.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 847 ✭✭✭Proxy


    This sounds about right.

    Handbrake on, signal, first gear, observation, get to biting point so you feel the car is "ready to go", take a quick look back then back to ahead as you move out. Having the car at bite is the most important part.

    If you're thinking about the test - you *should* be able to move out slowly, i.e. do not swerve out and back to the lane in order to feel like you've completed the move quickly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭MascotDec85


    First gear, biting point, centre mirror, right signal, right mirror, hand on handbrake, look over your right shoulder, release handbrake and move off increasing the power as you go.


    No matter what you are doing in a car have it ready to go, in the appropriate gear and at the biting point prior to making observations or putting signals on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,054 ✭✭✭Carsinian Thau


    First gear, biting point, centre mirror, right signal, right mirror, hand on handbrake, look over your right shoulder, release handbrake and move off increasing the power as you go.

    Largely out of a general observation habit but I'd also look to the left and check the left mirror really quickly just be sure that there wasn't any pedestrians or cyclists about to move into the path of the car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭dillo2k10


    Can you use the foot break when doing this?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 7,396 Mod ✭✭✭✭**Timbuk2**


    dillo2k10 wrote: »
    Can you use the foot break when doing this?

    Not for uphill, as the car can roll slightly back when taking your foot off the footbrake and onto the accelerator. For uphill use the handbrake - trust me, after practicing a few times you won't even think about it.

    As far as I know, for flat or downhill, there's nothing wrong with using the footbrake!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭MascotDec85


    dillo2k10 wrote: »
    Can you use the foot break when doing this?

    With good clutch control it is possible to do use the footbrake in this situation.
    Basically you'd be doing the same thing, finding the biting point prior to removing the footbrake or handbrake. The biting point the key thing here.

    That said, I'd never advise a pupil to use anything other than the handbrake during the test. Too easy, in the pressure situation of the test to make an unforced error!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    Is any sort of rollback a grade 3?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 495 ✭✭brian076


    naughtb4 wrote: »
    Is any sort of rollback a grade 3?

    No a slight roll back wouldn't generally get you a Grade 3 fault, in fact it mightn't even get you a Grade 2 fault, however it depends on the circumstances, i.e. is there something or someone behind the car when it rolls and by how much.

    Just one other thing when moving off, don't put on your signal if there's traffic coming behind, they might think that you're going to pull out in front of them, wait until they've passed, then carry out your observations again, signal and move off if safe to do so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 243 ✭✭zxcvbnm12


    just wondering...when you stop on the hill do you indicate left and when you are taking off do you indicate right


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    Depends what direction you are going and what position you are in at the stop sign/line if there is an unusual slope or that there is a bit of a cross road or on a bridge.

    If you coming up to a hill generally you indicate the direction you plan to go even if you have to edge a bit or move the car into an unusual position like you would at a bridge maybe.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    Not unless you be causing an obstruction or dangerous manoeuvre would it be considered a grade fault. I think? If there was a chance you too close to the vehicle behind you or not leaving enough room when pulling out and you roll back that could be considered dangerous or an obstruction?

    Depends on the circumstances and the situation really.

    Indicate when there is a gap in traffic and its clear be already to pull out once the last vehicle passes you be ready to move on then just before hand indicate.
    Always observe and look at your mirrors before pulling out and look at your side mirror after you have pulled out.

    Mirrors first then signal. Move off when safe and when its clear and you have enough time and space to move out before the next vehicle comes along.


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