Magnaclean installation

MuffinsDa

I had new boiler installed yesterday and I asked a Magnaclean unit to be put in as part of the installation.

It all went well and boiler is working fine. But I checked Magnaclean manual today, and it says that it has to be installed either on flow or return pipe, just before the boiler, inline. But from what I can see in my installation it seems to short circuit flow an return right below the boiler, i.e. it's placed between (and connection) flow and return pipes. Is this a valid installation, or is it a mistake? It doesn't make sense to me, as it will allow water to just short circuit through it instead of going through CH Pipes.

Urgent advice need and will be hugely appreciated!:eek:

Needs to be fitted to the return pipe under the boiler.

MagnaClean® Professional is suitable for all central heating systems and can be fitted anywhere on the main circuit. However, in order to achieve the best protection for the boiler, it is recommended that the MagnaClean Professional is fitted after the last radiator before the boiler.

(I have always seen them fitted on the return)

MuffinsDa

Thanks Gary yeah I've checked the manual and it's recommended on return (although it says its ok on the flow too), but the problem is this installation seems to have it BETWEEN flow and return, i.e. connecting them, right under the boiler!

The idea of it is to help reduce the impact of contamination on your heating system and boiler and I think they're a good piece of kit, fitting it anywhere but on the return will leave the boiler unprotected, it's the boilers components that tend to be effected the most.

Fitting it as a type of bypass is silly as it can only filter any water that may pass through it.

DoneDL

These system cleaners should always be fitted on the return to protect the heat exchanger in the boiler as this prevents crud in the system becoming dislodged and sticking in the heat exchanger, I would add a note of caution as magnaclean are prone to leakage.

GASMANN

MuffinsDa wrote: »

Thanks Gary yeah I've checked the manual and it's recommended on return (although it says its ok on the flow too), but the problem is this installation seems to have it BETWEEN flow and return, i.e. connecting them, right under the boiler!

a magnetic bypass filter !

DGOBS

Cleans on overrun only...lol

I would love to be a fly on the wall has the 'installer' tries to explain away that one!

Please let us know how you get on, and a pic would be superb

I think we should focus on the positives, They have fitted a system bypass which was very rare a few years ago and the OP will be able to explain how a filter works on a heating system and show them the installation pictures just to be sure:D.

JohnnieK

Have you contacted the installer? I'm sure it will be rectified once you contact him. He might have been having "one of those days" :D:D

MuffinsDa

Spoke to installer today, looks like it was a genuine and honest mistake and he's coming to fix it tomorrow so it's all good. Genuine mistake CAN happen, I've done worse myself!

DGOBS

At least he offered to come back, to be honest it's one of those errors that has some installers here chuckling to themselves I am sure....

but after all the person who never made a mistake, never made anything worth talking about, he will never do it again!

(the other guy did it!.....he mustn't have had an apprentice to blame!)

GASMANN

MuffinsDa wrote: »

In fairness he had a guy with him who did some of the plumbing work and allegedly he is the one responsible for it, the installer says he didn't check that one. In fairness at this point they were working for hours on end, but then, it's GAS you need to be diligent till the last second don't you?

He said he'll come and fix it later in the week anyway, I've closed the Magnaclean valves for now (I presume leaving them open will just make no sense at all, am I right?). But Am I a bit too demanding to expect that he should really come today or tomorrow to rectify it, rather than leaving it till Friday? Or you think it won't make much difference?

But yes it's a very basic error, even I with no plumbing experience could see that!

Below is a photo as per your requests:

condensate water, although highly acidic, does not flow uphill.

JohnnieK

GASMANN wrote: »

condensate water, although highly acidic, does not flow uphill.

It seems to going out at an angle to the rest of the pipes so it probably is going out correctly, just hard to see from the pic.

JohnnieK

JohnnieK wrote: »

Have you contacted the installer? I'm sure it will be rectified once you contact him. He might have been having "one of those days" :D:D

JohnnieK wrote: »

It seems to going out at an angle to the rest of the pipes so it probably is going out correctly, just hard to see from the pic.

You're very understanding:)



Fitted any those new Magnaclean bypasses lately?

JohnnieK

gary71 wrote: »

JohnnieK wrote: »

Have you contacted the installer? I'm sure it will be rectified once you contact him. He might have been having "one of those days" :D:D

JohnnieK wrote: »

It seems to going out at an angle to the rest of the pipes so it probably is going out correctly, just hard to see from the pic.

You're very understanding:)



Fitted any those new Magnaclean bypasses lately?

Im TF1 filter man me self Gary

MuffinsDa

Update: the installer came in today and promptly fixed it and sorted out a couple of other things around the house. Unfortunately I can't name him on this site but I was very impressed with the quick response and rectification and his attitude to his professional work and would have no problem recommending his work. He didn't try to fudge it, he just explained that it was a genuine mistake and he fixed it straight away. That's how a professional should deal with situations like this.