cyclocross race in cork

full gas

been chatting to a few people in the real capital , lots of interest in running a few races in the new year , would people travel

GlennaMaddy

full gas wrote: »

been chatting to a few people in the real capital , lots of interest in running a few races in the new year , would people travel

Yep, once a season would be the most I'd be able to do though

billy.fish

Hiya,

heard rumours of this yesterday. I'd travel down, maybe bring a few more WORC riders down, would be good to get racing expanded outside of the usual spots.

As always feel free to ask questions of us who've run races.

See you kids at St Annes in two weeks!

Greg

25sean

would also travel for a bit of variety and a few pints of beamish!!

cork city or outside?
before or after christmas?

cheers like!

High Nellie

Yes please

norris

would like to see it down in cork too. I was only talking about it at the weekend to a few lads and they were up for it too

Quicktwo

I know it's been a while, but anymore developments on this? There is a lot of interest around for this

Bianchi00

I Would be interested & I know 5-6 others over the county bounds in kerry interested in racing

outfox

De Ronde VC had a casual survey on their facebook page a few weeks ago about it. And Valley Wheelers are also looking into it. It's gaining momentum!

karlmyson

We're looking at two possible venues in the Cork area at the moment. Insurances and red tape are the only things preventing a start. When we have sorted that out (which could take a few weeks or more) a few club riders will have a rattle off it before we consider opening it to riders from other clubs. It's great that there's seems to be a huge interest in it in the south. A place to do it is the biggest difficulty. If anyone here has any suggestion about a venue we'd be happy to hear it.
I ride with De Ronde van Cork CC, and am helping to try to get this scene going. We're closet Flandrians in this club, after all

Hi Ho

I'm up for it.

outfox

karlmyson wrote: »

Insurances and red tape are the only things preventing a start......A place to do it is the biggest difficulty. If anyone here has any suggestion about a venue we'd be happy to hear it.

Maybe that guy Rolf (info@waterfordracingclub.com) who got the CX set up in Waterford might be worth a shout? He somehow managed to convince the airport business park management to let him do it. Fair play to him.

Raam

Have you tried any local parks? Have a look around and then approach your relevant council. That is what I did. Trying to find the right person to talk to can be tricky at first, but persevere and you will find them.

maesrichard1

Definitely be up for it and id know of a 5-10 lads in killarney CC that would go also.

Tenzor07

Would be good to hear of clubs in the South/Munster getting together to form a CX league.
As Raam has mentioned, find out who's in charge or either local parks or has suitable patches of land that can be used.

I am sure the new CX Coordinator for Cycling Ireland would be happy to lend advice...
If clubs in Cork/Kerry etc do get a venue and a sponsor etc, maybe run a one off test race in preparation for running a Munster series next year?

bwalsh1983

Ballincollig regional Park?

Quicktwo

I sent a mail to Maciej, the XC co-ordinator as i couldn't find an email for the CX co-ordinator.
Cheers Tenzor07 for the idea. Will keep this updated

SomeFool

I'd consider looking at places willing to host park runs, (Macroom and Clon come to mind) if they are open to that they may be willing to allow a cx race.

ford2600

How much land would one need for a decent course?
A mix of forestry with grassland?

maesrichard1

ford2600 wrote: »

How much land would one need for a decent course?
A mix of forestry with grassland?

Anything with a few acres just to get it up and running would suffice. Be nice to get it going this side of xmas.

Raam

ford2600 wrote: »

How much land would one need for a decent course?
A mix of forestry with grassland?

Course should be between 2.5km and 3.5km. Easily achieved with lots of looping.

maesrichard1

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on_the_nickel

Vernon Mount?

https://goo.gl/maps/yFQBB

Mefistofelino

on_the_nickel wrote: »

Vernon Mount?

You'd need a mountain bike for Vernon Mount - far too steep (and "jumpy")

Far better off across the other side of the South Ring Road in Tramore Valley Park (the old Kinsale Road landfill). It belongs to the city council.

Its still being developed for its formal opening next year but is already in use and has been variously used for orienteering and as a rally special stage.

Theres a BMX track due to go in there too.

maesrichard1

Mefistofelino wrote: »

You'd need a mountain bike for Vernon Mount - far too steep (and "jumpy")

Far better off across the other side of the South Ring Road in Tramore Valley Park (the old Kinsale Road landfill). It belongs to the city council.

Its still being developed for its formal opening next year but is already in use and has been variously used for orienteering and as a rally special stage.

Theres a BMX track due to go in there too.

Formal opening of what?

Mefistofelino

maesrichard1 wrote: »

Formal opening of what?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tramore_Valley_Park

ford2600

Mefistofelino wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tramore_Valley_Park

Still they gazed and still the wonder grew
That one small head could carry all he knew

Wordsworth I think, primary school is a long time ago!

Mefistofelino

ford2600 wrote: »

Still they gazed and still the wonder grew
That one small head could carry all he knew

Wordsworth I think, primary school is a long time ago!

It's a priest city boy thing. You wouldn't understand.

bwalsh1983

I reckon Ballincollig Regional Park has the rigt mix of paths, grassland, scrub run throughs etc to have apretty good course there. Only issue is with the county council and insurance but you would hope the may be open to these things and find a way to make it happen.

Raam

bwalsh1983 wrote: »

I reckon Ballincollig Regional Park has the rigt mix of paths, grassland, scrub run throughs etc to have apretty good course there. Only issue is with the county council and insurance but you would hope the may be open to these things and find a way to make it happen.

Insurance problem is solved by getting indemnity from CI. It costs about 25 quid. That covers the land owner and no one else.

Quicktwo

Max Power, the XC guy got back to me and said that Robin Seymour is the guy in charge of cyclo cross. There is a big CX event on Sunday so he's busy for now. After that I'll contact him

Raam

Quicktwo wrote: »

Max Power, the XC guy got back to me and said that Robin Seymour is the guy in charge of cyclo cross. There is a big CX event on Sunday so he's busy for now. After that I'll contact him

I got much of my info from Robin originally

bwalsh1983

Raam wrote: »

Insurance problem is solved by getting indemnity from CI. It costs about 25 quid. That covers the land owner and no one else.

Thats that aspect sorted then, access to all the below then could be a possibility. Plenty of parking out there for those travelling and ease of access from Kerry and Waterford. Don't see why it would'nt be a possiblity.

Raam

bwalsh1983 wrote: »

Thats that aspect sorted then, access to all the below then could be a possibility. Plenty of parking out there for those travelling and ease of access from Kerry and Waterford. Don't see why it would'nt be a possiblity.

It took me quite a few months to get the OK from Fingal County Council in Dublin. Not that they were difficult, they were in fact very helpful. The time was spent tracking down the correct person and then checking a couple of different venues to find somewhere that suited the race needs and that Fingal were happy to make available.

bwalsh1983

Raam wrote: »

It took me quite a few months to get the OK from Fingal County Council in Dublin. Not that they were difficult, they were in fact very helpful. The time was spent tracking down the correct person and then checking a couple of different venues to find somewhere that suited the race needs and that Fingal were happy to make available.

Im not in Cork at the moment but it would be divisional services south who ned to be contacted in order to get discussions moving on using the park, if they are as accomodating as Fingal Co Co then it could be a winner.

De Ronde are well placed to contac the right people in County Hall!

Raam

bwalsh1983 wrote: »

Im not in Cork at the moment but it would be divisional services south who ned to be contacted in order to get discussions moving on using the park, if they are as accomodating as Fingal Co Co then it could be a winner.

De Ronde are well placed to contac the right people in County Hall!

If you can approach them and have all your "t"s crossed and "i"s dotted then that is half the work done and makes it easier for them to say yes. Take a look at the CI event guidelines: http://www.cyclingireland.ie/page/events/how-to-organise-a-cycling-ireland-event

For the Crossmarnock and NDCX races series we produced a Risk Assessment which outlined everything that will happen in the build up to the race, during the race and then after the race. The council will be interested in keeping Joe Public happy and making sure there will be no damage to the venue.