Clerk of Works Query

foray

Applying for a Clerk of Works job and need to know if I require a safe pass. I am sure I do but have been told otherwise. My background is in architecture where I did not require a safe pass. Any assistance would be appreciated.

BryanF

yep

slowharry

If your going to be on a building site you need a Safe Pass. You must not have left the office in your architecture days

sydthebeat

slowharry wrote: »

If your going to be on a building site you need a Safe Pass. You must not have left the office in your architecture days

not correct.

Visiting professionals are exempt from safe pass as they are not considered "workers" under the legislation.

see here

foray

slowharry wrote: »

If your going to be on a building site you need a Safe Pass. You must not have left the office in your architecture days

I was going to send you on the same link slowharry as sydthebeat did. I was fully aware of my requirements in my architecture days and my query relates to Clerk of Works now!

slowharry

So I have wasted 2 days of my life getting and renewing a Safe Pass when I didn't need to.

Ahhhhh

Well I suppose i wont need to renew again next year

sydthebeat

ah well, at least now you can lend a hand a la Kevin Mc Cloud

BryanF

slowharry wrote: »

So I have wasted 2 days of my life getting and renewing a Safe Pass when I didn't need to.

Ahhhhh

Well I suppose i wont need to renew again next year

it all depends, my last office, for insurance reasons required all arch/AT's to sit through:mad: the safepass course. I appreciate its not a technically a requirement.

slowharry

"ah well, at least now you can lend a hand a la Kevin Mc Cloud"

My hands are for loving not lifting.

Max Moment

sydthebeat wrote: »

not correct.

Visiting professionals are exempt from safe pass as they are not considered "workers" under the legislation.

see here

I 100% agree with this to the letter of the law. However, some site's specific safety management teams make it compulsory for all those visiting or working on site to have safe pass as a minimum.

OP if the job is with an LA or similar body I would imagine you will need a safe pass. However, I am sure they would put you through it as it is only one day long. You could do the course tomorrow and receive a letter from the trainer which will cover you immediately so it would not hold you up from starting.

It might be worth asking the question to the employer?

foray

Max Moment wrote: »

I 100% agree with this to the letter of the law. However, some site's specific safety management teams make it compulsory for all those visiting or working on site to have safe pass as a minimum.

OP if the job is with an LA or similar body I would imagine you will need a safe pass. However, I am sure they would put you through it as it is only one day long. You could do the course tomorrow and receive a letter from the trainer which will cover you immediately so it would not hold you up from starting.

It might be worth asking the question to the employer?

Thanks Max Moment. It is probably just best I do the safe pass altogether and I guess I cannot be wrong then. I will run it be the employer also though.

sydthebeat

Max Moment wrote: »

I 100% agree with this to the letter of the law. However, some site's specific safety management teams make it compulsory for all those visiting or working on site to have safe pass as a minimum.

while that may be laudable, they would be operating outside the legislation and thus would be incorrect to refuse entry to an architect / engineer to the site. Im afraid they dont have the power to make it 'compulsory'.

I wouldnt like to be the safety officer who refuses access, and then has a bill for the engineers visit turn up on his desk.


foray, as you would be on site pretty much full time id expect that you would require a safe pass as you would be interacting with workers on a regular basis.

Glebee

Has this always been the case (that architects dont need safe pass) or has it been recently changed?

bikermartin

i believe only construction "workers" need the safe pass as have researched it few days ago...... says on the HSA website

Max Moment

sydthebeat wrote: »

while that may be laudable, they would be operating outside the legislation and thus would be incorrect to refuse entry to an architect / engineer to the site. Im afraid they dont have the power to make it 'compulsory'.

I wouldnt like to be the safety officer who refuses access, and then has a bill for the engineers visit turn up on his desk.


foray, as you would be on site pretty much full time id expect that you would require a safe pass as you would be interacting with workers on a regular basis.

I was just sharing an experience I had - and the safety officers / site management definitely had this power on this particular job and do on others. I am an Engineer and was refused entry to a site for this reason - could still enter the offices etc though but not the site.

I know of other colleagues this has happened to also. Needless to say the client nor my boss were particularly impressed when I explained the reason that I could not walk the site. Safe pass was done by me the following Saturday!

Anyways OP, save the embarrassment and do the course would be my advice.