1.4 V 1.6 Petrol Octavia

karltimber

hi,

had an 03 1.6 P Octavia upto recently.

Had a go in an 07 corolla today but just too light.
so, might go back to an Oct but would a 1.4L P be lacking compared to a 1.6 ?

Now, I dont drive mad at all - but it is a heavy car.

any opinions from 1.4L Oct drivers please.
plenty of 1.4's available comared to 1.6's

Thanks

K

EPM

The 1.4 will be fine if you're not looking for poke. Personally I think it's too underpowered but horses for courses. I'd be a little concerned about the engine, which can give issues along with the gearbox in that car.

CiniO

karltimber wrote: »

hi,

had an 03 1.6 P Octavia upto recently.

Had a go in an 07 corolla today but just too light.
so, might go back to an Oct but would a 1.4L P be lacking compared to a 1.6 ?

Now, I dont drive mad at all - but it is a heavy car.

any opinions from 1.4L Oct drivers please.
plenty of 1.4's available comared to 1.6's

Thanks

K

There's both 1.4 8v which has acceleration of 18s to 100km/h.
or 1.4 16v with acc 15.5s to 100km/h.

Both seems to be radiculously long.
Imagine joining motorway with such thing.

Tea 1000

The Corolla and the Octavia are practically the exact same weight. In any case, lighter is better so long as the structure is sound!
But if it's an Octavia you want, then go with the 1.6.

Sobanek

1.4 16v engine is rubbish - stay away from it! Drinks petrol like 1.8, gives performance equal to a horse and sucks oil like it's addicted to it!

unkel

Sobanek wrote: »

1.4 16v engine is rubbish - stay away from it! Drinks petrol like 1.8, gives performance equal to a horse and sucks oil like it's addicted to it!

And eats coil packs for breakfast. Soft engine, most of them won't make it to 100k miles

Ardennes1944

just get a 1.8, best mix of both worlds

Sobanek

Ardennes1944 wrote: »

just get a 1.8T, best mix of both worlds

fixed

sean1141

no just get a tdi!!

op even if you dont drive hard or fast try avoid the 1.4. they are a very poor engine, not reliable, gives very poor mpg and very little power. i would look for a diesel over them anyday. if you need petrol go for the corolla

C4Kid

unkel wrote: »

And eats coil packs for breakfast.

+1 Funny You say that, I've just started my search for a coil pack for that engine in my car. Scanned it yesterday and there was a fault relating to it.

Other than that it's been pretty good to be honest in my exp.

Sobanek

sean1141 wrote: »

no just get a tdi!!

op even if you dont drive hard or fast try avoid the 1.4. they are a very poor engine, not reliable, gives very poor mpg and very little power. i would look for a diesel over them anyday. if you need petrol go for the corolla

TDIs are slow and smokey and sound awful. I drive a diesel though, so I should just shut up at this point :pac:

spiggotpaddy

unkel wrote: »

And eats coil packs for breakfast. Soft engine, most of them won't make it to 100k miles

and timing belts for tea.

more flashing lights than a christmas tree.

but having said that, my bro's has circa 150 thousand trouble-ish free miles and still going strong.

karltimber

thx folks,

looks like the 1.4 so is out of the picture.
my old 1.6p was a grand motor - so may search for that so.

I wanted to go for a smaller car but that 07 corolla today was very light - and it was a garage courtesy car - so that put me off.
thx again,

k

colm_mcm

Try a 1.6 Avensis, same length as the Corolla but much bigger inside. Better on fuel than the corolla as well, but not overly economical either.

_Conrad_

Sobanek wrote: »

TDIs are slow and smokey and sound awful. I drive a diesel though, so I should just shut up at this point :pac:

Well... yes you should. Also, you may say a tdi is "slow" but it's not even half as slow as the pathetic 1.4 when combined with those cars. It was an awful stupid idea ever making a 1.4 octavia

colm_mcm

_Conrad_ wrote: »

Well... yes you should. Also, you may say a tdi is "slow" but it's not even half as slow as the pathetic 1.4 when combined with those cars. It was an awful stupid idea ever making a 1.4 octavia

They sold enough of them.

EPM

_Conrad_ wrote: »

Well... yes you should. Also, you may say a tdi is "slow" but it's not even half as slow as the pathetic 1.4 when combined with those cars. It was an awful stupid idea ever making a 1.4 octavia

Not really. Stroke of genius when you think how many they've flogged.

There's an even less powerful 1.3 as a police car special in Lithuania afaik.

C4Kid

If You find a well maintained one they are not that bad.

colm_mcm

Epm: That was the 1.4 mpi pushrod engine as used in the fabia I believe

EPM

colm_mcm wrote: »

Epm: That was the 1.4 mpi pushrod engine as used in the fabia I believe

It's the felicia one:eek:

colm_mcm

Yeah the mpi is the old favorit/felicia unit reworked. It was canned because of emissions laws

bazz26

OP, have you looked at a 1.6 Ford Focus? Better than a 1.4 or 1.6 Octavia.

karltimber

bazz26 wrote: »

OP, have you looked at a 1.6 Ford Focus? Better than a 1.4 or 1.6 Octavia.

hi,
not yet - just about to start my search.
was chatting to my bro just there and have added others into the mix.
I just thought I would have liked the corolla as I had 2 before - but better made models imo - years ago

Golf, Focus, Civic
am open to diesel too - about €7500 odd cash to spend.

Thx

colm_mcm

Ok here goes:

You can get 08 KIA cee'ds for €6750 including vrt from the UK
My mother is looking at them at the minute. You'd get a 1.6 petrol SR with a very nippy cvvt engine, there'd also be 4 years warranty left. Theres a blue one on auto trader with 16000 miles.

colm_mcm

€302 tax by the way

166man

Spend about €5250 of that on this and you get a really nice car that isn't a run of the mill hatchback from Ford or Opel. Great engine and has timing belt just done on it. Tax too. Plus the fact that it's an Alfa.

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Alfa-Romeo/147/1.6-SPOR/201142205051203/advert?channel=CARS&featuredListingClickThru=true

karltimber

is insurance any different for automatics ??

K

Mister Jingles

_Conrad_ wrote: »

Well... yes you should. Also, you may say a tdi is "slow" but it's not even half as slow as the pathetic 1.4 when combined with those cars. It was an awful stupid idea ever making a 1.4 octavia

Sure isn't there a 1.2 now (ino its a 105 bhp but still )

colm_mcm

karltimber wrote: »

is insurance any different for automatics ??

K

Not usually. Sometimes the engine on the auto is bigger and that makes the insurance a little bit more.

Tea 1000

karltimber wrote: »

thx folks,

looks like the 1.4 so is out of the picture.
my old 1.6p was a grand motor - so may search for that so.

I wanted to go for a smaller car but that 07 corolla today was very light - and it was a garage courtesy car - so that put me off.
thx again,

k

Again - The Corolla is not light... it's the same weight as the Octavia. It's all about perception. And Light isn't necessarily bad, contrary to Irish thinking. An F1 car is 600kgs including driver! Are they bad cause they're light?

langdang

Tea 1000 wrote: »

An F1 car is 600kgs including driver! Are they bad cause they're light?

Pure useless. The plastic on the dash is fierce hard and light too. And the tax, jebus mary and joseph, the tax!

Tea 1000

langdang wrote: »

Pure useless. The plastic on the dash is fierce hard and light too. And the tax, jebus mary and joseph, the tax!

And the steering wheel... just breaks off in the hands! Cowboys Ted...

sean1141

Sobanek wrote: »

TDIs are slow and smokey and sound awful. I drive a diesel though, so I should just shut up at this point :pac:

taken from the owners manual of my leon which should be the same as a octavia
1.6 petrol
105bhp
max speed 192 kph
0-100 kph 10.9 seconds
combined fuel comsumption 6.9l/100km

1.9 tdi
110bhp
max speed 193 kph
0-100 kph 10.7
combined fuel comsumption 5.2l/100km

both are slow:p

Damokc

Cant believe nobody has tried to tell the OP that he's a fool if he doesn't just buy a 3series. Where have the Beemer FBs gone?

Two cousins of mine have 1.4 Octavias and they seem happy enough. One had some problem at one stage alright but dunno what it was. Think they would be fairly slow to overtake though with the big body?

I was on about getting a Leon and was told to get a 1.6 16v or at least a 1.4 16v. Same engines OP.

karltimber

so,

eventually got myself another Octavia.
1.6 Petrol elegance model - 2007 with 30k miles on it from Pilsen Auto in Ballymount. Not a mark on this - new tyres, just serviced too.

Pleased out - good buy for good money too.


so thanks folks for the help

much appreciated.

K

EPM

Well wear.

unkel

Well wear

That 1.6 is an old, but very sorted and reliable engine. You're unlikely to have problems with it as opposed to the 1.4

karltimber

true Unkel

I only ever had to replace the anti-roll bushes on my old one.

why change from a good known motor that I liked.

and good deals to be had too.

K

x in the city

karltimber wrote: »

hi,

had an 03 1.6 P Octavia upto recently.

Had a go in an 07 corolla today but just too light.
so, might go back to an Oct but would a 1.4L P be lacking compared to a 1.6 ?

Now, I dont drive mad at all - but it is a heavy car.

any opinions from 1.4L Oct drivers please.
plenty of 1.4's available comared to 1.6's

Thanks

K

under powered, a 1.4 focus has the pull of 2 terriers, let alone a similar sized engine in an octa

by all means buy it but dont expect to be passing many cars out and dont expect great economy.

maidhc

Threads like this is exactly why I rarely bother visiting this forum much.

I bought a 1.4 Octavia for my sister a few years ago. It had 50 odd k on it then and has 87k on it now. In that period it has returned a steady 40mpg and has cost exactly 0 in repairs. Yes, aside from a timing belt and servicing it has cost nothing.

As regards poke it is perfectly fine. Not the fastest car in the road, but will do 140k comfortably, and is lively to 50k. Overtaking on N roads is best avoided unless you have a good run, but it seriously is fine and you won't be late for work over it.

unkel

maidhc wrote: »

Threads like this is exactly why I rarely bother visiting this forum much.

Perhaps you shouldn't jump to conclusions too quickly

My mother in law was in the market for a brand new car (on a budget) nearly 9 years ago

I advised her and did the negotiations for her on a 1.4 Octavia, which she then got at a very good price and she still has the car. It set her back €17k on the road, way less than any other car in that class. A Toyota Yaris would have been nearly that price. And the Octavia takes 3 of them in the boot. Sorry, couldn't resist

She is a very low mileage driver, the car has given no trouble at all apart from 3 coil packs (you can imagine this is unnerving to an elderly lady as the engine very badly misfires), the oil light coming on many a time :eek: and the owner just topping up within a week or two :eek: :eek:

The car has been serviced (more or less) once a year and it is still going fine. The main dealer did the timing belt + service for a reasonable €450 a few years ago