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VRT / NCT test on car that's got known fault

  • 01-11-2011 3:20pm
    #1
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,522 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Folks,

    A VRT inspection is meant to be booked within 7 days of entering Ireland, and the registration completed within 30 Days. What's the situation with a vehicle that's imported but needs repair work before it's tested, as it's not going to pass, or may damage the engine if it's tested in it's current condition,

    My family have a 2002 Rover 25 that's done the regular Rover thing, and blown a head gasket. They've been unlucky, it blew a hose off a few months ago, and before they'd stopped it got very hot, which seized the engine, and the quickest and cheapest repair option was a complete engine out of a car that had been rear ended. That's now also blown a head gasket, it's a common enough problem on the 1.4 K series engine, unless the new style head gasket has been fitted to it. The family just want shot of it now, but as it's in good condition otherwise, and only done 45 K miles, it's there for the taking away if we want it, they're not going to trade it in as they are not prepared to be dishonest about it's present condition, and the trade in offer if it was 100% OK is only 500, so they'll probably get that as a reduction for no trade in.


    At the moment, it's still drivable, with care, but until the head gasket is replaced, it's not likely to pass the emissions test, so that means a head off job, possibly a skim, and then put it back together.

    Depending on the parts needed, that may take more than a week to do, so how do I square that circle. Also, the OMSP is going to be considerably less than the supposed €2000 that the revenue VRT calculator gives at the moment, the value right now is a lot less, so can the value be challenged with Revenue?

    Thanks

    Steve

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



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  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    .......................

    My family have a 2002 Rover 25 that's done the regular Rover thing, and blown a head gasket. They've been unlucky, it blew a hose off a few months ago, and before they'd stopped it got very hot.....................

    They cooked it and that's the usual Rover thing.

    Anyway, it's not worth fixing and VRTing so why bother.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,522 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    They cooked it and that's the usual Rover thing.

    For the original engine, it was, the replacement engine came out of a 25 that had been rear ended, and at the time, it was fine, but it's now started mixing it's water and oil. but not completely blown yet, and the new gasket that Land Rover have released seems to have solved the head gasket problem with the K series, and apart from the engine issue, the rest of the vehicle is immaculate, and had A/C etc, so a good spec.

    I would have had no worries about nursing it home, and then stripping the head off it, and doing whatever needed doing, but it's academic now, they went to the local Ford dealer this afternoon, and even with the issues it has, got offered a deal that they are happy with, so I won't be bringing it back to Ireland now anyway.

    Thanks

    Steve

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Folks,

    A VRT inspection is meant to be booked within 7 days of entering Ireland, and the registration completed within 30 Days. What's the situation with a vehicle that's imported but needs repair work before it's tested, as it's not going to pass, or may damage the engine if it's tested in it's current condition,

    My family have a 2002 Rover 25 that's done the regular Rover thing, and blown a head gasket. They've been unlucky, it blew a hose off a few months ago, and before they'd stopped it got very hot, which seized the engine, and the quickest and cheapest repair option was a complete engine out of a car that had been rear ended. That's now also blown a head gasket, it's a common enough problem on the 1.4 K series engine, unless the new style head gasket has been fitted to it. The family just want shot of it now, but as it's in good condition otherwise, and only done 45 K miles, it's there for the taking away if we want it, they're not going to trade it in as they are not prepared to be dishonest about it's present condition, and the trade in offer if it was 100% OK is only 500, so they'll probably get that as a reduction for no trade in.


    At the moment, it's still drivable, with care, but until the head gasket is replaced, it's not likely to pass the emissions test, so that means a head off job, possibly a skim, and then put it back together.

    Depending on the parts needed, that may take more than a week to do, so how do I square that circle. Also, the OMSP is going to be considerably less than the supposed €2000 that the revenue VRT calculator gives at the moment, the value right now is a lot less, so can the value be challenged with Revenue?

    Thanks

    Steve

    I'm confused. Are you importing a damaged car, paying VRT, or getting an NCT on a damaged car?

    When importing they don't test it they just look at it and take too much money off you. You then need to book it in for an NCT test if it's due.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,522 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    The rules have changed.

    As outlined here

    A car imported from the UK now has to have a VRT inspection at one of the designated NCT stations (not all NCT stations can do this inspection), and on completion, it can then be registered with Revenue, and the VRT paid. The rules are that it has to have the test booked within within 7 days of entering Ireland, and registered within 30, and my concern was that due to the fault on the vehicle, it might prove to be impossible to complete that test within the timescale laid down, as getting parts after stripping the engine might well take longer. On reading it again, it's possible that having booked the test, it might well be later than 7 days, but it's far from clear

    My original reason for asking was that the vehicle was going to be mine for the taking away, as my parents were not prepared to lie to a dealer about it's condition, and I could have done the necessary work here, I have most of the facilities to do it, and with the engine repaired, it would have been an OK vehicle for us to use.

    It's not going to happen now, the vehicle has still been given a trade in offer even with the faults disclosed, so it's been traded in, and will probably end up at a trade auction within a few days

    Steve

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



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