No animals were harmed....

Temptamperu

...In the making of this motion picture. This tag is at the end of every movie made now a days, But my ponderence of this is why does it not say no humans were harmed are we not as important as animals? Why dont we get a special mention at the end credits.
Another thing in the making of The Game of Thrones a scene where a horse gets its head lamped off and Peta :rolleyes: complained... but there are hundreds of humans are slain in the most awful ways.

So why are animals more important than humans?

krudler

cos humans sign up for it and are paid to do stunts. did PETA think that horse really had its head chopped off? morons. I remember them complaining about the horses in Braveheart as well, which were rubber ones on a track to make them flip over when speared. suppose its the best compliment the special effects guys can get if hippies think their work is realistic looking.

The King of Moo

It's funny, I was just reading about this recently.

In the 1939 film Jesse James, a horse was blindfolded and ridden over a cliff to its death (I guess the rider jumped off first!).

The American Humane Association understandably kicked up a fuss and since then they've had that disclaimer.

So maybe if someone did something similar to Robert Pattinson or some such heartthrob (not that I'm advocating that...not really) Amnesty International might do something similar for humans.

OldGoat

You ARE an animal.

D1stant

If no animals were harmed during the production does that mean their canteen was vegetarian?

Mr. Incognito

Animals are pretty and taste good.

People are smelly and taste awful.

Too many poeple. Not enough animals.

Kill people.

Eat animals.

MungBean

I'm sure if ya look hard enough you'll find some group complaining about any particular thing.

Violence in movies should have a good few groups harping about it.

sensibleken

Temptamperu wrote: »

So why are animals more important than humans?

Cause humans are assholes and watching them die is entertaining.

BaZmO*

Temptamperu wrote: »

But my ponderence of this is why does it not say no humans were harmed are we not as important as animals? Why dont we get a special mention at the end credits.

Because humans have free choice, and get paid handsomely for their efforts.

Temptamperu wrote: »

So why are animals more important than humans?

They're not, but in a civilised society it is generally deemed unacceptable to treat animals cruelly in the name of entertainment. In fairness though, I thought that would've been obvious.

Emiko

OldGoat wrote: »

You ARE an animal.

Speak for yourself, Mr. Goat.

SEPT 23 1989

What a about those bulls who went over the cliff in The Field?

Were they alive or fired out of a large canon?:D

Emiko

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

What a about those bulls who went over the cliff in The Field?

Were they alive or fired out of a large canon?:D

They were actually stunt-men in costume.

Fishooks12

The King of Moo wrote: »

It's funny, I was just reading about this recently.

In the 1939 film Jesse James, a horse was blindfolded and ridden over a cliff to its death (I guess the rider jumped off first!).

The American Humane Association kicked up a fuss and since then they've had that disclaimer.

So maybe if someone did something similar to Robert Pattinson or some such heartthrob (not that I'm advocating that...not really) Amnesty International might do something similar for humans.

Good god I hope they do

The King of Moo

Fishooks12 wrote: »

Good god I hope they do

I'd say there'd be plenty of volunteers to ride him.

The cliff part might be more problematic though.

danniemcq

if they ran cows off a cliff into a big meat grinder i'd be happy enough.

Snakeblood

If I were a director, I'd have 'No animals were accidentally harmed in the making of this movie'

OutlawPete

danniemcq wrote: »

if they ran cows off a cliff into a big meat grinder i'd be happy enough.

Jaysus, the Bull McCabe would surely have been annoyed if Tadgh had of ended up in a fecking meat grinder.

Captain Darling

Temptamperu wrote: »

...In the making of this motion picture. This tag is at the end of every movie made now a days, But my ponderence of this is why does it not say no humans were harmed are we not as important as animals? Why dont we get a special mention at the end credits.
Another thing in the making of The Game of Thrones a scene where a horse gets its head lamped off and Peta :rolleyes: complained... but there are hundreds of humans are slain in the most awful ways.

So why are animals more important than humans?

I think it goes without saying that there wouldnt be a message saying that 'no humans were harmed etc' There's enough legislation etc out there to protect 'humans.'

The same protection doesnt apply to animals however and thats why its probably stated explicitly in the credits that no animals were exploited or harmed.

As for PETA i personally dont think animals are equal to humans. Its a bit of an insane notion. I know what i'd be doing if i'd to choose between the life of a person or an animal.

It always reminds me of the vote or die episode in Southpark or the guy in my home town who has been seen swapping spit with his dog. Fookin barking mad.

danniemcq

OutlawPete wrote: »

Jaysus, the Bull McCabe would surely have been annoyed if Tadgh had of ended up in a fecking meat grinder.

all depends on the taste,

after all meat is murder... tasty tasty murder

The King of Moo

The King of Moo wrote: »

In the 1939 film Jesse James, a horse was blindfolded and ridden over a cliff to its death (I guess the rider jumped off first!).

What?!
that's awful

danniemcq

bluewolf wrote: »

What?!
that's awful

yes but bet you are looking for a torrent of it now!

Irish Guitarist

It's pretty obvious that filmmakers don't go around killing humans. It's less obvious that they don't kill other animals. It would be illegal to kill a human. It wouldn't be illegal to buy a farm animal like a pig and kill them.

danniemcq

danniemcq wrote: »

yes but bet you are looking for a torrent of it now!

i certainly am not

ejmaztec

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

It's pretty obvious that filmmakers don't go around killing humans. It's less obvious that they don't kill other animals. It would be illegal to kill a human. It wouldn't be illegal to buy a farm animal like a pig and kill them.

The stuntman killed in an explosion during the filming of The Expendables 2 has been identified as Kun Lieu. The accident occurred last week on a second unit location on Lake Ognyanovo, Bulgaria. Another stuntman, Nuo Sun, was also seriously injured, according to the movie's production company, Nu Image/Millennium Films. The company also sought to clarify what it dubbed "incorrect reports" that the injured stuntmen were the doubles for Sylvester Stallone and Jet Li: "This is absolutely false and inaccurate. At the time of the accident neither Li's or Stallone's stuntmen were on or near the Second Unit set, nor were any of the film's main actors, director Simon West or any of the Main Unit crew."

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/10/stuntman_killed_on_expendables_1.html

The King of Moo

ejmaztec wrote: »

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/10/stuntman_killed_on_expendables_1.html

There was a stuntman killed on the first XxX film as well, and they kept the footage in the film, which I couldn't believe!

Snakeblood

The King of Moo wrote: »

There was a stuntman killed on the first XxX film as well, and they kept the footage in the film, which I couldn't believe!

I imagine he died of shame at the film he was in.

Vic Morrow and two kids got killed by a helicopter in the making of the Twilight Zone movie. That was the first real movie death I ever heard of.

Irish Guitarist

I just Googled for animal deaths in films and found this. Be warned if you don't want to see animal cruelty though; it shows a (very small) screen capture of the horse from Jesse James falling off the cliff.

Shockingly, animals have been killed in films as recently as 2005.

Manderlay: A donkey is slaughtered for dramatic purposes. Actor John C Reilly, quits in protest. The scene is cut from the film before it is released.

ejmaztec

The King of Moo wrote: »

There was a stuntman killed on the first XxX film as well, and they kept the footage in the film, which I couldn't believe!

I suppose the clue's in the film-title.

OldGoat

Disney - lemmings - White Wilderness.
http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/lemmings.asp
No cameramen were injured.

Emiko

Who can forget the buffalo which had it's throat slit at the end of 'Apocalypse Now'.

Who says that wasn't artistic?

danniemcq

bluewolf wrote: »

i certainly am not

oh....


just me then!

Captain Darling

Emiko wrote: »

Who can forget the buffalo which had it's throat slit at the end of 'Apocalypse Now'.

Who says that wasn't artistic?

I dont think a case can be made for justifying animal cruelty in the name of art.

DublinWriter

They blew up a real live horse with dynamite for a scene in Heaven's Gate. That was as late as 1979 and was what arguably started the whole PETA involvement with Hollywood studios.

Emiko

Captain Darling wrote: »

I dont think a case can be made for justifying animal cruelty in the name of art.

As long as the cast and crew sat down to a hearty buffalo stew afterwards, I don't see the issue.

Captain Darling

Emiko wrote: »

As long as the cast and crew sat down to a hearty buffalo stew afterwards, I don't see the issue.

Meh, you seem to be semi trolling, but if it isnt necessary i dont see the point.

It just seems a bit retarded inflicting pain on an animal when its not required. Each to their own however.

MrJoeSoap

First, you stun them. Then you stick'em in the vice.

I could run them down in me van!

Have you nothing I could kill at all all, Father?

http://www.channel4.com/assets/programmes/images/father-ted/series-2/episode-6/bunny-boiler/father-ted-s2e6-bunny-boiler_200x113.jpg

LighterGuy

Temptamperu wrote: »

...In the making of this motion picture. This tag is at the end of every movie made now a days, But my ponderence of this is why does it not say no humans were harmed are we not as important as animals? Why dont we get a special mention at the end credits.
Another thing in the making of The Game of Thrones a scene where a horse gets its head lamped off and Peta :rolleyes: complained... but there are hundreds of humans are slain in the most awful ways.

So why are animals more important than humans?

Pretty much because there are alot of as*holes out there.
Theres alot of animal rights extremists who even take an issue to an animal being killed on camera (while being perfectly safe and unharmed) like the perfect peta example you mentioned... :rolleyes:

Just as*holes who need to cop on to themselves.

LH Pathe

just laid down te biggest gozzier right between the biggest most muzzled pitbull's eyes. not what I wish to be greeted by outside the post office..

he / his owner flinched like it hurt but I can assure you, no animals were harmed