Chemical weapons found in Libya

FootShooter

http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=243776

http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/10/31/174585.html

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/10/30/world/africa/libya-chemical-weapons/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8859040/Libya-Mahmoud-Jibril-confirms-presence-of-chemical-weapons.html

Bloody lucky they got Ghadafi before he could use them, if they are operational that is.

MrStuffins

THIS JUST IN!!!

El Guapo!

[Homer Simpson] Oh I see, then everything is wrapped up in a neat little package! [Homer Simpson]

RichieC

no fking way... literally, how?

oh, wait, jpost, I'll wait for non zionist confirmation.

Mr Simpson

RichieC wrote: »

no fking way... literally, how?

oh, wait, jpost, I'll wait for non zionist confirmation.

Washington Post

FootShooter

http://www.agi.it/english-version/world/elenco-notizie/201110302140-cro-ren1073-ntc_s_outgoing_pm_says_nuclear_weapons_found_in_libya

Chemical weapons would not surprise me really. Maybe jpost and agi.it mistranslated chemical weapons to nuclear weapons.

Killer Pigeon

Sorry, we need a credible Zionist post before this can be confirmed.

If this is true, which I doubt, I would hope that the nukes are secured before the extremist Islamic elements within Libya get their hands on them.

General General

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKK!

I have 5 grand on with Paddy Power that Iran will be the next found with Nuclear weapons.

Please let this be a fabrication.

RichieC

mmcn90 wrote: »

Can't link properly cos Im on my phone, but here:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle-east/libyas-prime-minister-confirms-presence-of-chemical-weapons-inspectors-to-arrive-this-week/2011/10/30/gIQAM1S8WM_story.html

as i suspected, the jpost is full of ****.. nukes arent chemical weapons...

Saila

mmcn90 wrote: »

Can't link properly cos Im on my phone, but here:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle-east/libyas-prime-minister-confirms-presence-of-chemical-weapons-inspectors-to-arrive-this-week/2011/10/30/gIQAM1S8WM_story.html

its all there underlined OP

Libya’s prime minister confirms presence of chemical weapons says inspectors due this week




By Associated Press, Published: October 30


TRIPOLI, Libya — Libya’s interim prime minister on Sunday confirmed the presence of chemical weapons in Libya and said foreign inspectors would arrive later this week to deal with the issue.
Prime Minister Mahmoud Jibril said Libya has no interest in keeping such weapon



“We would like to assure you that the new Libya will be a peaceful Libya and that it is in our interest to have no weapons in Libya,” he told reporters.
Last week, Ian Martin, the top U.N. envoy to Libya, told the U.N. Security Council that undeclared chemical weapons sites have been located in Libya.
At the time, he also expressed concern over command and control of chemical and nuclear material sites.
Jibril, who has announced his resignation ahead of the formation of a new interim government, did not provide any details about the chemical weapons.
“There are international organizations taking care of this issue,” he said, adding that representatives of those organizations are due to arrive in Libya later in the week.
A Russian-drafted U.N. resolution, to be voted on this week, calls on Libyan authorities to destroy stockpiles of chemical weapons in coordination with international authorities.
Copyright 2011 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

BlastedGlute

mmcn90 wrote: »

Can't link properly cos Im on my phone, but here:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle-east/libyas-prime-minister-confirms-presence-of-chemical-weapons-inspectors-to-arrive-this-week/2011/10/30/gIQAM1S8WM_story.html

Copyright 2011 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

Nice to know where the washington post lifts their information from. :-/

RichieC

MrStuffins wrote: »

THIS JUST IN!!!

bear in the woods for nukes found in Libya... is the nuright really this brainwashed out of reality?

RichieC

BlastedGlute wrote: »

Copyright 2011 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

Nice to know where the washington post lifts their information from. :-/

they pay good money for it too.

tuxy

General General wrote: »

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKK!

I have 5 grand on with Paddy Power that Iran will be the next found with Nuclear weapons.

Please let this be a fabrication.

What happens if Israel finally declares their nukes?

Saila

change the title to chemical weapons OP <Edit>

RichieC

Saila wrote: »

change the title to chemical weapons OP <Edit>

jpost does say nuclear weapons in fairness.

General General

tuxy wrote: »

What happens if Israel finally declares their nukes?

I get my money back plus a free bet for £10000 on any Turkish Prima Liga match of my choice.

Saila

RichieC wrote: »

jpost does say nuclear weapons in fairness.

well then it must be right! :pac:

I see you heard me OP, fair play

FootShooter

RichieC wrote: »

jpost does say nuclear weapons in fairness.

Associated press is a bit more trustworthy imo. Title changed.

LighterGuy

I call government media spin on this.
Pretty sure the UN/US etc knew Ghadaffi had these.

biko

FootShooter wrote: »

http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=243776

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle-east/libyas-prime-minister-confirms-presence-of-chemical-weapons-inspectors-to-arrive-this-week/2011/10/30/gIQAM1S8WM_story.html

Bloody lucky they got Ghadafi before he could use them, if they are operational that is.

Why does neither link mention chemical weapons?
Libya has had a nuclear program since the 80s, some enriched uranium does not equal nuclear missiles.
It's known that Libya has had chemical weapons for some time.

Btw, they should definitely remove them before the rebels get their hands on them. Some rebels are muslim extremists linked to Al-Qaeda.

Remember, he never did actually use them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7pj3IL-hD8

Capt'n Midnight

If it's true that Libya had Nukes then the big question is whose nukes are they? Because Libya didn't have the technology to make them despite many attempts to get started.

http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/NP-Libya_moving_forward_with_nuclear_power_plans-0801107.html

The north African country already has a Russian 10 MWt research reactor, which has been operating since 1981 and is under International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) safeguards. France, Argentina, Ukraine and Russia have all signed agreements on the peaceful use of nuclear energy with Libya since its voluntary decision to halt a clandestine uranium enrichment program and fully open itself to IAEA inspections in 2003. Canada has also signed a memorandum of understanding with the country.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/22/libyan-rebels-gaddafis-chemical-weapons?newsfeed=true

But the international watchdog, the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, had stated it believed that Libya had kept 9.5 tonnes of mustard gas at a secret location: it is that which appears to have now been captured and secured.

Eric Cartman

Ohh this is just perfect , all those troops coming back from iraq and all of a sudden weapons are found .... But islamic politicians wont be best trusted with them in the wests view ..... US War on libya 2012-?

The fact that the zionist are mentioning this is also a key indicator its another bullshít excuse for a war

im invisible

Great scott!!

arybvtcw0eolkf

RichieC wrote: »

jpost does say nuclear weapons in fairness.

Report: Libya's NTC chief says nuclear weapons located
By JPOST.COM STAFF
10/30/2011 23:26

The outgoing premier of Libya's NTC, Mahmoud Jibril said Sunday that nuclear weapons were found in the country, according to the Al Arabiya TV network, Israel Radio reported.

The JPost is quoting from Al Arabiya TV Network & Libya's NTC chief are they not?.

Corsendonk

Isnt Toilet Duck and Domestos combined a chemical weapon?

biko

RichieC wrote: »

oh, wait, jpost, I'll wait for non zionist confirmation.

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Sorry, we need a credible Zionist post before this can be confirmed.

Eric Cartman wrote: »

The fact that the zionist are mentioning this is also a key indicator its another bullshít excuse for a war

Buying into "the great Jewish conspiracy"?

Killer Pigeon

biko wrote: »

Buying into "the great Jewish conspiracy"?

It's not the Jews, it's the Zionists. Jeez, I hate when people try to equate anti-Zionism to antisemitism. Gawd.

Killer Pigeon

A stink-bomb might be classified as a chemical weapon.

"Hey guys, we found a class-A stink-bomb in Gaddafi's personal armory."

"Let's just call it a 'chemical weapon' for added effect, it will make this NATO backed mission look even more worthwhile."

ejmaztec

While all the fighting was going on, NATO people were wandering around with truckloads of chemical weapons, burying them as they whistled nonchalantly on their way, so that they could be "found" later on.

RichieC

biko wrote: »

Buying into "the great Jewish conspiracy"?

:rolleyes:

jpost is a zionist rag.. ffs do people even research these things any more? if it was an al jazeera (100 times more trustworthy than jpost) the story would be instantly dismissed

biko

RichieC wrote: »

:rolleyes:

jpost is a zionist rag.. ffs do people even research these things any more? if it was an al jazeera (100 times more trustworthy than jpost) the story would be instantly dismissed

So if Jerusalem Post reports there's weapons in Libya (later backed up by papers in the countries warring on Libya) you instantly dismiss it because "Zionism"?
I think I know what you mean, that anything Israelis say can't be trusted, but I'd like for you to find some sources to show Jpost has lied previously or similar.
Until then I choose to think they're reporting real news and not some "zionist agenda".

RichieC

biko wrote: »

So if Jerusalem Post reports there's weapons in Libya (later backed up by papers in the countries warring on Libya) you instantly dismiss it because "Zionism"?
I think I know what you mean, that anything Israelis say can't be trusted, but I'd like for you to find some sources to show Jpost has lied previously or similar.
Until then I choose to think they're reporting real news and not some "zionist agenda".

Do your own research, biko. that's two posts in a row now you snidely switched up zionist with "israeli" or "jew".

I'm at this **** too long to be dragged in by that tactic.

biko

No answer eh? That answers my question.

RichieC

I didn't dismiss the story by the way. I called bull**** on them being nukes. which is rather clear had you of read the thread.

Einhard

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

A stink-bomb might be classified as a chemical weapon.

"Hey guys, we found a class-A stink-bomb in Gaddafi's personal armory."

"Let's just call it a 'chemical weapon' for added effect, it will make this NATO backed mission look even more worthwhile."

I think that the fact that a murderous tyrant has bee removed, and the people of Libya have a chance at shaping their own destiny in a democratic manner, makes the mission worthwhile in itself tbh.

RichieC

Einhard wrote: »

I think that the fact that a murderous tyrant has bee removed, and the people of Libya have a chance at shaping their own destiny in a democratic manner, makes the mission worthwhile in itself tbh.

long way to go yet, I'd hold off with the mission accomplished for now.

Einhard

RichieC wrote: »

long way to go yet, I'd hold off with the mission accomplished for now.

Hence the "chance at shaping their own destiny" part...

RichieC

Einhard wrote: »

Hence the "chance at shaping their own destiny" part...

I think it's more likely the states and france will be doing the destiny shaping myself. it will be another war if the Libyans actually get a say.

There's some serious cognitive dissonance going on, on the one hand everyone banging on about the Libyans shaping their own destiny and at the same time going on about sharia law and al qaeda connections.

yea people want the libyans to be free, but our kinda free. this will be very interesting to watch. It wasn't a week after the Egyptians ousted the old regime when the American and Israeli right started calling it a failure due to Obamas weakness.

skelliser

why are people surprised?

an interesting question is who sold him the weapons and/or the means to produce them?

a bet we wont hear the answer to that!!

Grassroots_FF

I wouldn't trust those NTC animals as far as I could throw them. They are nothing but savages who execute prisoners and civillians and fabricate lies about mass rapes.

Lizzzard

So the OP says, "Bloody lucky they got Ghadafi before he could use them", I say, silly of him NOT to use them. Why wouldn't he, America would use everything in its arsenal if they were threatened like that, at the moment its restricted to pepper spray use on protesters, just the beginning.

Do you realise the amount of weapons that the USA and other 'super powers' have that are more destructive than anyone could ever believe? That have never been used. And certainly more powerful than whatever Gadaffi had.

But no, Gadaffi was an evil man, dangerous and crazy right?
WHAT THE F**K ARE THE PEOPLE CONTROLLING THE WORLD AND RUNNING THE US DEFENSE FORCE THEN, REASONABLE?????

Maybe you shouldn't believe everything western media tells you,

Watch this if you have 3 and a half minutes to find out what happens if you piss off the other world powers and try to do your own thing for the benefit of your people. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O35_Ai6EsMU

Other videos here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuqZfaj34nc&feature=relmfu

Just remeber that Lybia now have NOTHING of what they previously had on the below list, (except for interest on mortages which is Sharia Law and is applicable to all countries that use Sharia Law).

16 Things Libya Will Never See Again.(after NATO intervention)
Posted by Saya on October 24, 2011.

1. There is no electricity bill in Libya; electricity is free for all its citizens.

... ... 2. There is no interest on loans, banks in Libya are state-owned and loans given to all its citizens at zero percent interest by law.

3. Having a home considered a human right in Libya.

4. All newlyweds in Libya receive $60,000 dinar (U.S.$50,000) by the government to buy their first apartment so to help start up the family.

5. Education and medical treatments are free in Libya. Before Gaddafi only 25 percent of Libyans were literate. Today, the figure is 83 percent.

6. Should Libyans want to take up farming career, they would receive farming land, a farming house, equipments, seeds and livestock to kickstart their farms are all for free.

7. If Libyans cannot find the education or medical facilities they need, the government funds them to go abroad, for it is not only paid for, but they get a U.S.$2,300/month for accommodation and car allowance.

8. If a Libyan buys a car, the government subsidizes 50 percent of the price.

9. The price of petrol in Libya is $0.14 per liter.

10. Libya has no external debt and its reserves amounting to $150 billion are now frozen globally.

11. If a Libyan is unable to get employment after graduation the state would pay the average salary of the profession, as if he or she is employed, until employment is found.

12. A portion of every Libyan oil sale is credited directly to the bank accounts of all Libyan citizens.

13. A mother who gives birth to a child receive U.S.$5,000.

14. 40 loaves of bread in Libya costs $0.15.

15. 25 percent of Libyans have a university degree.

16. Gaddafi carried out the world’s largest irrigation project, known as the Great Manmade River project, to make water readily available throughout the desert country.


I also support everything that Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has threatened against Western powers if they try and lift him from power because it doesn't 'fit in their plans'.

Full UN speech that USA, France and other delegations walked out on as a sign of protest at his claims. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H09nvdPF0KQ

F**K THE UN, IT MEANS NOTHING ANYMORE.

RichieC

no they wont even have islamic banking anymore...

though that list seems just a little too perfect to be believed..

afaik kuwait buys it's citizens silence with give aways like that, though.

Eric Cartman

RichieC wrote: »

afaik kuwait buys it's citizens silence with give aways like that, though.

no better way to keep quiet than driving an S Class merc

RichieC

Eric Cartman wrote: »

no better way to keep quiet than driving an S Class merc

To a certain extent, yes, left wing redistribution is acceptable to the masters of the universe if it's used to protect vast private interests from the unwashed mob.

Eric Cartman

RichieC wrote: »

To a certain extent, yes, left wing redistribution is acceptable to the masters of the universe if it's used to protect vast private interests from the unwashed mob.

you know well i dont support the idea of this socialism or left wing redistribution of wealth, but I however feel that considering the money earned from oil , theres only so much you could spend on the country before giving it away to the people.

Also id much rather the system under gadaffi of dont ask, dont tell anything and life will be fine , versus what theyll now gain which is american 'ask and your dead' but its all in the name of 'democracy'

Lybia was better off with Gadaffi , Id rather him than america any day

RichieC

They'll get a fake democracy.. like the one we have and the yanks... the illusion of choice.

That's actually all most people want.

Ever hear Americans calling their country "the greatest democracy on earth"?

Two corporate owned Partys and a few rag tag lunatics that the Big boys use to split votes..

We need to reboot the idea of democracy.

Eric Cartman

RichieC wrote: »

They'll get a fake democracy.. like the one we have and the yanks... the illusion of choice.

That's actually all most people want.

Ever hear Americans calling their country "the greatest democracy on earth"?

Two corporate owned Partys and a few rag tag lunatics that the Big boys use to split votes..

We need to reboot the idea of democracy.

the whole world just needs to have a big meeting and tell america to withdraw all troops from everywhere and fcuk off out of the middle east and keep to itself for the rest of its time.

Capt'n Midnight

When did the US get rid of it's mustard gas ?

http://www.cma.army.mil/

10/25/2011 Hermiston, OR Umatilla Chemical Agent Disposal Facility destroys last ton container of mustard blister agent [72KB pdf]
UMATILLA CHEMICAL DEPOT, Hermiston, Ore. – Nearly 50 years of chemical agent storage came to an end today with the destruction of the last ton container

CMA continues to safely store and destroy the chemical weapons stockpile in Tooele, Utah. CMA also safely stores the chemical weapons stockpiles in Richmond, Ky. and Pueblo, Colo.

Capt'n Midnight

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

A stink-bomb might be classified as a chemical weapon.

http://yarchive.net/chem/h2s_safety.html

1. H2S is toxic. Excessive exposure will paralyze the breathing
muscles which of course can be fatal.

2. At low levels the characteristic odor announces its presence.

3. At higher levels (10 ppm give or take a few ppm) the sense of smell
is unable to detect H2S. It as this point that H2S becomes extremely
dangerous and treacherous. There is no warning of excessive exposure.
The victim simply collapses into an unconscious state. Unless
appropriate action is taken death is a frequent result.

4. It is possible to revive the victim by artificial respiration but
it is also possible to quickly join the victim in a state of
unconsciousness and death. Cases are known where several "rescuers"
without proper breathing apparatus have participated in cost saving
joint funerals for multiple victims. Collection of the bodies is not
difficult because they are usually in one pile near the source of the
H2S and the first victim.