Fianna Fail Free Dublin

CheezePleeze

I saw this sign on the way into Dublin today. Man, they get things done fast when they want to!

Sunnyisland

Cheeze Pleeze wrote: »

I saw this sign on the way into Dublin today Man, they get things done fast when they want to!

Lets hope it stays that way with an eventual Fianna fail free Ireland

washman3

I look forward to the day i see a sign like that in the arrival hall of Dublin Airport telling people that they're entering a FF free Ireland.
And hopefully remind everyone that these scum and their developer scum and the PD and Green Party scum brought this country to its knees. :mad:

CheezePleeze

washman3 wrote: »

I look forward to the day i see a sign like that in the arrival hall of Dublin Airport telling people that they're entering a FF free Ireland.
And hopefully remind everyone that these scum and their developer scum and the PD and Green Party scum brought this country to its knees. :mad:

No mention of the "scum" that voted them in, I notice... :rolleyes:

gerryo777

washman3 wrote: »

I look forward to the day i see a sign like that in the arrival hall of Dublin Airport telling people that they're entering a FF free Ireland.
And hopefully remind everyone that these scum and their developer scum and the PD and Green Party scum brought this country to its knees. :mad:

Well said!!

Sunnyisland

Is that an actual sign or a doctored photo, Like what was there before they put the Anti ff writings,Seems like a lot of spare green space to have.

WhatNowForUs?

Hi,

I can understand why people hate the Greens for allowing the IMF in, being naive and allowing FF to piss all over them. Are there any other reasons?

Liam Byrne

CheezePleeze wrote: »

I saw this sign on the way into Dublin today. Man, they get things done fast when they want to!

Not quite "Mary Davis poster" standard, but then that was Photoshopping above & beyond any known limits.

Sierra Oscar

We are there, working away harder than ever on the ground across all constituencies in Dublin preparing for 2014.

Eathrin

realies wrote: »

Is that an actual sign or a doctored photo, Like what was there before they put the Anti ff writings,Seems like a lot of spare green space to have.

Just a photoshop, you can see the off-green box.

Pride Fighter

The Labour Party has the same amount of TD's as Fianna Fail in one county. Labour have 19 in Dublin, FF have 19 all over the country.


But they have not gone away you know. Hopefully the people will not be deceived by them ever again and vote for parties of principle and ideology, regardless of what that is.

CheezePleeze

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

We are there, working away harder than ever on the ground across all constituencies in Dublin preparing for 2014.

Yes, you're working away for the "party". But why?! What on earth do you stand for? Why aren't you completely embarassed and ashamed of this "party" with its lack of principles and any moral grounding. Supporting self serving shisters like Ahern and Haughey?
FF said it all during the Gallagher debacle, when, knowing the truth about Mr G's involvement in FF, never stood up and said "Well, Actually..." Not one of all of the FF people who know he was lying stood up. The "Party" before the People - that's the Republican't Party for you all over...
[IMG][/img]http://choosepurple.com/fiannafaulty/images/fiannafaULTYSM.gif

gerryo777

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

We are there, working away harder than ever on the ground across all constituencies in Dublin preparing for 2014.

So, when the local elections are over and you get slaughtered again, will you lot p*** off then?

Sierra Oscar

gerryo777 wrote: »

So, when the local elections are over and you get slaughtered again, will you lot p*** off then?

So long as there are individuals willing to serve their community, there will be a Fianna Fáil.

charlemont

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

We are there, working away harder than ever on the ground across all constituencies in Dublin preparing for 2014.

I think the Dubs have seen through ye at this stage..:)

Sierra Oscar

charlemont wrote: »

I think the Dubs have seen through ye at this stage..:)

Oh I don't know, been knocking on doors across Dublin since GE11' and already I have noticed a thawing of attitudes towards FF.

During the GE very few were willing to hear FF canvassers out - now people are actually starting to listen to us. Lots of work to be done, but a positive sign nonetheless.

Sponge Bob

An awful lot of work Sierra and much humble pie to eat. If you have the fortitude then off a listening you go!

Sierra Oscar

Sponge Bob wrote: »

An awful lot of work Sierra and much humble pie to eat. If you have the fortitude then off a listening you go!

Oh no doubt, a huge amount of work has to be done by the party in order to restore credibility. Devastating mistakes were made over the last number of years and there is little point trying to justify some of them, but nonetheless we must continue to pick ourselves up and get on with the task at hand.

Sponge Bob

I didn't think FF deserved to win a by election in Dublin less than 1 year after the IMF was brought in to sort the sordid mess that FF created, myself.

Not even after FG foisted that loathsome and sociopathic mitchell on the populance.

Corsendonk

Don't FF Dublin Senators count?

gerryo777

Corsendonk wrote: »

Don't FF Dublin Senators count?

No. Are senators really 'elected'?

Dirk Gently

Corsendonk wrote: »

Don't FF Dublin Senators count?

Not really no, although we still have directly elected Fianna Fáil Councillors in Dublin which does taint our FF free status somewhat. Still, I am proud that there are no FF TD's in the capital. Senators are appointed or elected by select clubs and can't be attributed to the general Dublin population.

Sleepy

What's the point of trying to "rebuild"?

The party name is synonymous with incompetence, corruption and cronyism. While I can understand and respect the desire to be involved with the governance of the country surely it's time to relegate the Fianna Fail party to history and allow the honest, hard-working members of the local cumans to join other parties (FG would seem the closest idealogical home) or even form a new party free of the tarnish of the name and lack of ethics of the party which has consistently proven themselves to be the untrustworthy child of Irish politics that make a mess of things before we have to call in Mammy and Daddy (FG) to fix things.

CheezePleeze

Sleepy wrote: »

What's the point of trying to "rebuild"?

The party name is synonymous with incompetence, corruption and cronyism. While I can understand and respect the desire to be involved with the governance of the country surely it's time to relegate the Fianna Fail party to history and allow the honest, hard-working members of the local cumans to join other parties (FG would seem the closest idealogical home) or even form a new party free of the tarnish of the name and lack of ethics of the party which has consistently proven themselves to be the untrustworthy child of Irish politics that make a mess of things before we have to call in Mammy and Daddy (FG) to fix things.

Here here!

washman3

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Oh I don't know, been knocking on doors across Dublin since GE11' and already I have noticed a thawing of attitudes towards FF.

LOOKING FORWARD TO THE DAY YOU COME KNOCKING ON MY DOOR.:mad:

Sierra Oscar

washman3 wrote: »

LOOKING FORWARD TO THE DAY YOU COME KNOCKING ON MY DOOR.:mad:

Good stuff - I hope you are at least willing to hear me out and engage with me constructively when I do.

washman3

washman3 wrote: »

I look forward to the day i see a sign like that in the arrival hall of Dublin Airport telling people that they're entering a FF free Ireland.
And hopefully remind everyone that these (people) and their developer (friends) and the PD and Green Party (associates) brought this country to its knees. :mad:

Apologies to mod for using inappropriate terms,now replaced by terms in brackets. Was just expressing the views of the vast majority of Irish people. Didnt realise these terms were not allowed on politics forum.

washman3

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Good stuff - I hope you are at least willing to hear me out and engage with me constructively when I do.

DONT BOTHER, NOT WELCOME.
At election time you will see a poster outside which reads "strictly no FF or GP canvassers welcome"
Those who ignore this warning will do so at their peril.

Zubeneschamali

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

I hope you are at least willing to hear me out and engage with me constructively when I do.

Go on then, we're listening. What's your doorstep pitch for FF? Can you repeat it yet without bursting out laughing?

sensibleken

Im already working on a cool one liner for when FF come knocking in 2014. What do you guys think of;

" Oh you've turned a corner alright...into the wrong ****in' neighbourhood!'

not the best but I've 3 more years to think of a better one

cornbb

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Go on then, we're listening. What's your doorstep pitch for FF? Can you repeat it yet without bursting out laughing?

I wouldn't even bother. Anyone canvassing for FF at this stage is a lost cause and won't listen to reason, or acknowledge reality. Its like listening to a domestic abuse victim saying "but... I know he really loves me deep down". Stockholm syndrome, or something like that.

sensibleken

cornbb wrote: »

I wouldn't even bother. Anyone canvassing for FF at this stage is a lost cause and won't listen to reason, or acknowledge reality. Its like listening to a domestic abuse victim saying "but... I know he really loves me deep down". Stockholm syndrome, or something like that.

That and a belief that Ireland is theirs and any other party is a temporary usurper bordering on pathological arrogance.

Rabidlamb

sensibleken wrote: »

That and a belief that Ireland is theirs and any other party is a temporary usurper bordering on pathological arrogance.

Yep . . . and when all this unpleasantness dies down they'll be back to their core 40% vote .
Can they not see even after last week, you're less toxic being a member of the IRA than being a member of FF.

Sierra Oscar

Rabidlamb wrote: »

Yep . . . and when all this unpleasantness dies down they'll be back to their core 40% vote .
Can they not see even after last week, you're less toxic being a member of the IRA than being a member of FF.

Are you referring to Gallagher and McGuinness? Last I checked Gallagher polled on 28.5% with McGuinness polling on 13%.

gerryo777

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Good stuff - I hope you are at least willing to hear me out and engage with me constructively when I do.

This country has had to put up with your guff for the past 14/15 years. Enough is enough, you and your ilk have been told already, now get the message loud and clear and **** OFF!

Rabidlamb

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Are you referring to Gallagher and McGuinness? Last I checked Gallagher polled on 28.5% with McGuinness polling on 13%.

The FF mud which stuck cost Gallagher 12%.
McGuinness' didn't suffer any release of skeletons.

washman3

Watch RTE1 tonight at 9.30 and see what FF really contributed to this country.:mad:

CheezePleeze

Rabidlamb wrote: »

The FF mud which stuck cost Gallagher 12%.
McGuinness' didn't suffer any release of skeletons.

McGuinness wasn't trying to hide anything - Gallagher was. :mad:

sensibleken

washman3 wrote: »

Watch RTE1 tonight at 9.30 and see what FF really contributed to this country.:mad:

They contributed RTE. Thats enough to never vote for them again

CheezePleeze

sensibleken wrote: »

They contributed RTE. Thats enough to never vote for them again

OUCH!:D

human 19

sensibleken wrote: »

Im already working on a cool one liner for when FF come knocking in 2014. What do you guys think of;

" Oh you've turned a corner alright...into the wrong ****in' neighbourhood!'

not the best but I've 3 more years to think of a better one

" Oh you've turned a corner alright...and drove off a ****in' cliff!'

goose2005

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Oh no doubt, a huge amount of work has to be done by the party in order to restore credibility. Devastating mistakes were made over the last number of years and there is little point trying to justify some of them, but nonetheless we must continue to pick ourselves up and get on with the task at hand.

But what is 'the task' beyond obtaining power for its own sake?

Galwayguy35

FF suffered from bad leadership over the years and its ironic the op lamenting a FF free Dublin considering the biggest rat to ever lead the party was a Dub. Dont right off FF just yet, its a long way yet until the next election.

CheezePleeze

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

FF suffered from bad leadership over the years and its ironic the op lamenting a FF free Dublin considering the biggest rat to ever lead the party was a Dub. Dont right off FF just yet, its a long way yet until the next election.

Who's lamenting a FF free Dublin? Not me - I think its absolutely FANTASTIC. But this sort of parochial daftness - that you should show allegiance to someone just because he's from the same county - is the sort of illogical hooey that we need to eradicate if we're ever going to grow up as a nation.

I mean, how the hell did Gallagher do so well in the election - he was on the National Executive of Fianna Fail up until 2009 - for God's sake, have we no memory at all. But so many gave him their number one - and he excelled in his own and neighbouring counties.

What sort of a cretin says "I'm voting for yer man, cos he lives near me".?

Fock it, I'm emigrating...

And another thing - the jubilation among the public after Cowan got a roasting on TV last week - but who put him into office? The Brits?

CheezePleeze

goose2005 wrote: »

But what is 'the task' beyond obtaining power for its own sake?

Here here - have you ever heard of Gandhi's Seven Social Sins:

Politics without principles,
wealth without work,
pleasure without conscience,
knowledge without character,
commerce without morality,
science without humanity, and
worship without sacrifice.

Remind you of anyone?

Mr.Micro

CheezePleeze wrote: »

And another thing - the jubilation among the public after Cowan got a roasting on TV last week - but who put him into office? The Brits?

Apparently he is still very popular in Offaly. The mind boggles. There must be no unemployment, emigration, debts, the lot down there, or else they are completely mad. Ah shure he ruined us all but he is a great fella all the same,...... enjoying his lump sums and big pensions.

CheezePleeze

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

So long as there are individuals willing to serve their community, there will be a Fianna Fáil.

Let me re-phrase that for you, Sierra: So long as there are (self serving) individuals willing to (make it look like they are) willing to serve their community, there will be a Fianna Fáil.

Mr Oscar, you are not as special as you think. People from other political parties, people who work for charities, social groups, sports clubs, even good neighbours, serve their communities.

People in Fianna Fail EMPOWER leeches like P Flynn, Ray Burke, B Ahern, C Haughey, to rip the rest of us off.

WHY DON'T YOU WAKE UP!

Serve the community and your country by leaving Fianna Fail, and showing all politicians that if you bankrupt the country, your party will die, and your reputation will be ruined for all of history.

eire4

Funny photo. Lets hope Dublin and large parts of the country stay that way. Fianna Fail's courruption and incompetence played a massive role in bringing the country to the sad state we are currently in. There is no chance they will ever get my vote.