457 visa question

seamus1980

Hi all i have a question about a 457 visa,i am a qualified plumber and i know a guy in mount isa,who would sponcer me,BUT i have alot of mate,s in melbourne and i would like to move down there instead,my question is,is it possible for the guy in mount isa to sponcer me and that i wouldnt have to go to mount isa but that i could go straight to melbourne to work prob for a different company,Also guys does anyone know anywhere in ireland that i could talk to some one about visa questions,thanks all:D

mandrake04

well the strict rule is you have to work for who ever sponsored you, you cant work for anyone else not even moonlight in a second job.

If the company is based in Mt Isa and the work is a big plumbing contract in Melbourne then that's ok, if all the work is in Mt Isa then that's where you work.

Mellor

You have to work for who ever sponsors you. If you leave that company that boss is obliged to tell immigration and you lose your visa.

you aren't tied to mt Isa, jsut the company. So he could contract you out to other jobs, companies, etc as long as you were his employee.

karl bracken

you could always get sponsored by him and try get work in Melbourne with someone who is willing to take over the sponsorship, it would be a lot easier to get a job once your here and all ready have a decent visa status.

amybabes

If this person is willing to sponsor you for a 457, would they be able to go the whole hog and sponsor you for employer nominated residency?
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/skilled-workers/ens/

Means you actually don't have any work restrictions once the visa is granted, you are a permanent resident as opposed to just on a temporary sponsorship 4 yr visa and can work for who you want.

I am 2 years into a de facto 457 sponsorship and this is the way that our migration lawyer has advised us to extend this to permanent residency

seamus1980

Hey guys thank you for your reply i was just going through the immi web site and came across this,it says that i can change jobs and sponcer or am i missing something,thanks all
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/457-sponsor-obs-faq-visa-holder.htm

mise_me_fein3

If you're skilled you can set up your own business and sponsor, (even sponcer ) yourself but I think it costs $7000. I have a number of an Irish guy that has a sponsorship company set up out here and he sounds pretty good. Fixed my brother up.

mandrake04

mise_me_fein3 wrote: »

If you're skilled you can set up your own business and sponsor, (even sponcer ) yourself but I think it costs $7000. I have a number of an Irish guy that has a sponsorship company set up out here and he sounds pretty good. Fixed my brother up.

Sponsor yourself, sure why didn't anyone else think of that.

That's pure genus :rolleyes:

Lets I need a skilled Person to work for me, I cant find anyone to do that job :rolleyes:. Ah I think I will Nominate myself for a 457 visa

So now I am the Sponsoring employer and applicant at the same time, does that mean if I sack myself I have 28 days to leave the country?

PR costs $2900 far cheaper to apply for that if you are skilled.

mise_me_fein3

mandrake04 wrote: »

Sponsor yourself, sure why didn't anyone else think of that.

That's pure genus :rolleyes:

Lets I need a skilled Person to work for me, I cant find anyone to do that job :rolleyes:. Ah I think I will Nominate myself for a 457 visa

So now I am the Sponsoring employer and applicant at the same time, does that mean if I sack myself I have 28 days to leave the country?

PR costs $2900 far cheaper to apply for that if you are skilled.

It depends on your situation you mope. :rolleyes:

The guy doesn't want to stay in Mount Isa so this might be a way to help him out. You set up your own company and yes you sponsor yourself.

Of course most people won't be doing this but what would you suggest to the OP? no??? Didn't think so...ya fcukin jinnit

Mellor

seamus1980 wrote: »

Hey guys thank you for your reply i was just going through the immi web site and came across this,it says that i can change jobs and sponcer or am i missing something,thanks all
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/457-sponsor-obs-faq-visa-holder.htm

That was mentinoed above.
you can transfer if you have a new employer willing to take on the responsibilities of beign a sponsor. not as easy as it sounds.

Lets I need a skilled Person to work for me, I cant find anyone to do that job . Ah I think I will Nominate myself for a 457 visa

So now I am the Sponsoring employer and applicant at the same time, does that mean if I sack myself I have 28 days to leave the country?

PR costs $2900 far cheaper to apply for that if you are skilled.

The company is the sponsor, and the person is the employee.
I have heard quite recently of somebody doing this. The difference was that he was setting up a company here anyway and wasn't able to go via PR. But did qualify for a 457. I assume he wil ahve other employees.
I have no idea if he has a chance of getting it. Nor do I have any idea of the details of the comapny, if its him alone or a partnership etc

mise_me_fein3 wrote: »

The guy doesn't want to stay in Mount Isa so this might be a way to help him out. You set up your own company and yes you sponsor yourself.

However, in the OPs case its a pretty ridiculous suggestion. He won't ahve other employees and he probably wont meet the requirements if he sets up a company.
Apply for PR, as he is quailified, is a far simplier option.

mandrake04

mise_me_fein3 wrote: »

It depends on your situation you mope. :rolleyes:

The guy doesn't want to stay in Mount Isa so this might be a way to help him out. You set up your own company and yes you sponsor yourself.

Of course most people won't be doing this but what would you suggest to the OP? no??? Didn't think so...ya fcukin jinnit

I never said it wouldn't work as am not sure I was just pointing out the irony of it.

No point in your petty abuse, the OP already had more viable options offered earlier in the thread.

seamus1980

Cool thanks for the reply guys,feck i dont know what way is the best solution about getting a visa,i was also thinking about a PR visa,but it seem,s quiet expensive to get,i seen on immi website that the first instalment 2960 dollars and 4110 for the second,or am i looking in the wrong place?so confusing,god if i could get PR for 2900 i would defo go down that route

mandrake04

seamus1980 wrote: »

Cool thanks for the reply guys,feck i dont know what way is the best solution about getting a visa,i was also thinking about a PR visa,but it seem,s quiet expensive to get,i seen on immi website that the first instalment 2960 dollars and 4110 for the second

dont worry about the second instalment unless your wife cant speak a tap of English.

seamus1980

mandrake04 wrote: »

dont worry about the second instalment unless your wife cant speak a tap of English.

LOL Mate:D:D,i am not married thank god,i got out in the nick time;),sorry for all the questions guys but seeing that i am going alone do i have to pay the second instalment?is that only if you are bring famaily over????thanks again lads;);)

mandrake04

seamus1980 wrote: »

LOL Mate:D:D,i am not married thank god,i got out in the nick time;),sorry for all the questions guys but seeing that i am going alone do i have to pay the second instalment?is that only if you are bring famaily over????thanks again lads;);)

that it and you only pay it if they cant speak English, its that simple.

otherwise the 1st instalment is the only one you have to pay.

hussey

mise_me_fein3 wrote: »

It depends on your situation you mope. :rolleyes:

The guy doesn't want to stay in Mount Isa so this might be a way to help him out. You set up your own company and yes you sponsor yourself.

Of course most people won't be doing this but what would you suggest to the OP? no??? Didn't think so...ya fcukin jinnit

Mod Attack the post not the poster - take a 10 day break to cool off

seamus1980

mandrake04 wrote: »

that it and you only pay it if they cant speak English, its that simple.

otherwise the 1st instalment is the only one you have to pay.

OMG that is fantastic news mandrake04 you made my day:D,Thank you to all for helping me out;),I just have a few more questions,can i just verify that the PR visa is a 175 visa?and my other question is,if i get PR would it be possible that i could put my brother as a second Secondary Applicant as he is also looking to go to oz to work and study?Sorry guys last question,how long does it usually take to get a PR visa to come through

mandrake04

175 and 176 is PR.

Realistically your brother probably would need his own visa, unless he was the last living relative you have.

PS.

The processing time for PR can take between 6 and 12 months.

seamus1980

Ok thanks mandrake04 for clearing that up,i was just wondering which the 175 or 176 visa i should go for in your opinion,also i seen on the website something about working 12 month,s out of the last 24 month,s what that all about

mandrake04

mise_me_fein3 wrote: »

If you're skilled you can set up your own business and sponsor, (even sponcer ) yourself but I think it costs $7000. I have a number of an Irish guy that has a sponsorship company set up out here and he sounds pretty good. Fixed my brother up.

Found an interesting post on another forum that sort of sinks this theory.

http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/939979-post3.html

There is no reason why a sole trader cannot become a Standard Business Sponsor under the 457 visa program - but the SBS and the 457 visa applicant cannot be the same person.

As posted by a respected MARA agent as opposed to a scibble on the back of a beer mat.

hussey

Maybe mise_me_fine meant the business visa
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/business/160/

which would be a visa to set up a company (not 457 yourself) you need at least 100k in assets though (available) and 800k floating around

But you cannot 457 yourself

mandrake04

hussey wrote: »

Maybe mise_me_fine meant the business visa
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/business/160/

which would be a visa to set up a company (not 457 yourself) you need at least 100k in assets though (available) and 800k floating around

But you cannot 457 yourself

Yeah think you are right he did mention setting up a business but maybe he just forgot to mention the $100,000 & $800,000.

Dav2

Hello mise-me-fein3, I'm new to this site and while I was searching about 457 visas your Quote stood out. Im desperate trying to find sponsorship and is there any chance I could have the no. or contact details of the friend who has sponsorship Company. I'm a Carpenter-Joiner and the only way I can get to OZ with my family is this way. Hope you can help, cheers